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 Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 06:42 pm
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Hello, I have just joined tonight and dont want to fall fowl of the "not posting in the first week" guidline.

By way of introduction I returned to the Hobby 2 years ago and started with an outdoor layout along tyhe garden fence. After the poor 2nd half of 2006 I gave up outside and moved into the conservatory with a 8 foot by 10 inch layout. The bug firmly took hold and in September 2007 I bought a shed to build my first proper layout since my teenage years (Im now 40)

Welcome to Springhead junction, A series of dioramas in an 8' by 6' garden shed.

The most recent overview from the open door looking in



Springhead junction



Springhead Station by night


The subway


In the shed


In the country


Hope you dont mind the photo-intro, I enjoy photography as much as modelling so have lots to share

The entire build is recorded on my photobucket site

http://s179.photobucket.com/albums/w295/johntealon30

And if you like video I have plenty like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUT6w8g4eJk

On my YouTube account

looking forward to getting to know you and your projects

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Hello and welcome, John.

That's an excellent looking layout and photos to match. I love the night scene, and the view in the shed.
Am I right in saying this is very much set in the present day? I don't know much [anything :)] about modern era British diesel.

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P.S. Great idea painting the sky overhead too. That no doubt will give a much better outdoor look to it all, especially in the colours of the photos.

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Very nice too John. You have certainly managed to make use of the space and I see you have many more pictures on your photobucket site. Looking forward to seeing more of them.



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Thanks Gents,

As for time setting Mike its set 80's onwards with a bit of "I pay the bills so I runs what I like" licence !!! :D

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Cheers, john.
I'm so far behind the times that for me a layout set in the eighties IS modern :D :D
I'm all in favour of of licence though.

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I take it that you are from the UK then John? Which part of the country may I ask, there may be members living close to you.



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Lovely layout John

You are are shed dweller like myself
I can see there has been a great deal of work gone iinto your layout.

look forward to more photos

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 Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 07:12 pm
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Before I forget John could you just reply to the welcome post I have put in the Welcome Section. All the lads can say hello then and give you their own welcome messages. Thanks.



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John, it looks like you have a lot packed into a 8x6 & that inside shot of the shed - good.

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John, I just looked at your videos especially Class 108 running in & the station announcements - I enjoyed that.

The ground signals - home made?

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 Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 07:24 pm
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Love the pic of the drunk on the floor and cops,that what it is? Looks like a great layout ,well done :D By the way ,i am a lass on here (for goodness sake,these fella's on here forget we lasses exist :lol: :lol:)

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John,that is a smart layout you have,i didnt think you could
get so much into a shed that size. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

Sue,ooh no we dont!! :oops: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

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You do try though :!: :wink: :D :lol:
Men are very trying :lol:

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A very good layout, i thought when i saw the inside shot of the engine shed it was for real. Excellent mate. Love the video's and pics.
Sue how can we forget you :D
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Excellent John and I'm very impressed with the shed too! May I ask you what make it is, also what it's made of (wood, plastic, metal) and whether it's insulated. Also, do you have any problems with temperature variations?
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Wow, nice work John, what is that in the hillside on the far right? A mine or a quarry ampitheatre?
Any chance of a track plan or is it all on your photobucket account?
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Thats exellent john :!: like the full sky effect on the roof of the shed ,been looking at the videos and well impressed with the sound loco,s going to have to get me one of them :)


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What a terrific layout John. You've certainly got a head start on most of us here. :lol:

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Nice work, John.
I'm impressed by the look you've created in the shed.
It's the first time that I've seen the roof painted like that, but it's very effective.
PS Love the layout too :!: :lol: :lol:

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Thanks for the comments and very warm welcome. What a friendly bunch you are !!!

Lots of comments noticed a couple of questions.

Track plan

Sorry I dont have a current track plan Im a bit of a make it up as you go along sort of guy. I do have the plan i started with that has the basic elements. On the left of the shed is a raised TMD on the right is a traverser under the main level. Across the back of the shed a gradiant drops from the TMD to the main and underneath that gradiant a second one drops from the main level to the traverser. Then the plan got thrown out of the window and it bacame a bit more fluid :D



This pre scenery pic gives a bit more of a clue



What make of Shed, well its from a company called Castle portable buildings. I got it from an outlet in Ashton-under-Lyne but I believe they are made near Leeds. I specified no windows, as it seems like the windows of a shed attract the kind of clientel that has 8 legs. It is a basic tongue and groove timber structure.

The up and Over backscene. It is a bit noel but I like to take pictures at track level or even lower and I didnt want to look up and spoil the illusion. The light ceiling made amassive difference to the light in the shed as it reflects down now.

Insulation yes it has 1" styrene blocks wedged in between each of the verticals in the shed structure and styrene tiles glude to the ceiling under the sky coloured paint !
Oh and the floor is covered with laminate and a large rubber backed mat.

Tempreture yes it fluctuates but to be honest Ive worked in lofts in the winter and froze and then boiled in the summer so its probably no worse than that. I control damp with the insulation and I have a small "cloakroom" dehumidifier running all the time.

The far Right Well it was a mine but with its decline a local business man has bought it and opened a climbing centre









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A bit more detail

Near left - The road


Far Left - Springhead Station with the TMD shed behind


Right and near right corner




And finally (Sorry its a long post !) The door way lift out section

In position



And lifted out and taken on Saddleworth Moor for a photo session





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Quality, John, pure quality.
I can't wait to get you describing some of your methods, I'm sure there's a lot we can learn from you.
Well done :!:

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Gwent Rail wrote:Quality, John, pure quality.
I can't wait to get you describing some of your methods, I'm sure there's a lot we can learn from you.
Well done :!:


Thankyou,
Im not sure I do anything differently than everyone else. If there is any thing about how I do things that anyone wants to ask Ill happily share.

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I, for one, would like some details on the construction methods and materials used on your rock face.
Also an explaination of the viaduct would be good, I'm not sure I've seen anything like that ready made, so is it scratchbuilt :?: If so, tell us more :!: :!:

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I think this is the first time I have ever seen a domino climbing wall, either on or off a model railway. Novel.
That viaduct is really something. Like Jeff I am full of curiosity about it.



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I am blown away by these shots, John :!: Superb - and the more you can post the happier we will be, coupled with (as Jeff suggests) some modelling details and (what we like as well as photos :wink: ) some "How to.."s :D

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What a brilliant layout,love the rock climbers and the busy station,lots of people on a station looks great. Excellent attention to detail as well,you have obviously really enjoyed making it :D :D

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John, now those are fascinating photographs. Oh, by the way, I neglected to say Hello in your welcome thread, been out and away a lot lately, so "Hello" and you can teach me anything you know anytime!!

What, does EVERYONE have a layout already? :roll: :roll: :roll: "Someday Maybe" :lol:

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In answer to the question how I do the rocks.

It becomes obvious how the shapes appear when you see how they ae done !!

I mentioned I insulated the shed with 1" styrene, well while I was cleaning up the offcuts the pile started to look like a rock face !!!

So I took the idea further, stack of polystyrene strips stuck together with the polystyrene cement. Then the problem of a surface finish came up. The styrene ball effect did nothing for me. The answer came in the form of a bucket that I had mixed ceramic tile adhesive in ( the powdered form) It had a look of rock. So I mixed some up an painted it on with a sttiff brush.



When dried it look a bit flat and boring, this is improved by the use of a product available from B&Q in spray can. It is a decrative finisih made by Plasticote called flecspray and is available in several colours. I had previously used it on my outdoor layout as ballast. The colour I used for the rock is Gothic Grey and gives the speckled finish..



Finally it still looks a bit uniform so my favourite colour Matt Black is sprayed on from another aerosol in a fine patchy finish.



Las job add grass scatter to taste.

This larger area that forms the tunnel at the back of the shed was done in the same way but a piece of ply was built into the pile of polystyrene to add strength.



The grass is dropped from above if it finds an area flat enough to settle on fine if not you get expossed rock





I use 2 colours of grass just to give a patchy non uniform appearance.


Hope this helps and answers the question.
(Mods : It may not be in the right section ???)

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rjr this layout is awesome but i have to point one thing out, just a tad ok.
Now i work for stagecoach and that Dart you have coming along the road is too clean mate :D , needs a couple of dents and some scratch's etc, also the metal barrier, i think its on the left as he turns needs a bit of paint rubbing on it, always get a car parked awkward on these corners. Also the grass on the right turn would always get churned up when we go right, again because of cars parking too close to corners :D .
Just trying to help, sorry for that. :D :D



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Great scenes John. The viaduct is superb :!:

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John, I have left your post here, but also copied it into the scenery section, as I think it's well worth showing there.
No doubt Bob will link the copy to the index :?:

When you have time, please don't forget another post on your viaduct, which seems to be attracting a lot of interest.

You could open a thread in the scenery section, or post it here in your layout thread and I'll copy it across again.

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Indexed. That viaduct is a must, that's for sure.



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John,

This is excellent. I have two lift out sections so am fascinated by your viaduct. Anything you can do to describe how it was built and how it sits in the layout will be appreciated. :D

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Yup, a "how I dun it" on the viaduct would be very useful at this point in time with my diorama bridges needing to be done.
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Fantastic layout John the outdoor photo,s are brilliant it looks so real with the sunlight reflecting off that class 37 crossing the viaduct .
My little question is what material do you use for the curved platform ?



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Hi John
Excellent layout, taking the viaduct to Saddleworth was an inspired idea the resulting photo's are fantastic! Look forward to more posts from you.

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Hi john
great layout, i have watched your garden shed grow from the start on another forum. one of the first posts i visit :D i like the ides you come up with and the amount you have fitted into a small space. you will be pushed to post a how to on your viaduct :D i live in rochdale so only a stone throw away. you will enjoy this forum a friendly bunch.

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The Viaduct !!!

Well I have to be honest and say the motivation came from a competion on another forum. The rules were to build a diorama or layout within 4 sqaure feet. I had just started springhead junction and didnt want to start another layout just to enter a comp. Then it came to me use the door bridge as a diorama rather than just a non scenic link.

The concept started as a rough sketch and a picture of Glenfinnan Viaduct of Harry Potter fame This is my original sketch



The next picture shows several points.



1. The lift out section is supported by 1/2" vertical ply that has a 2" x 1" timber batterns at the bottom to hold the lift out section up.

2. I cut the bottom section of the lift out from 3/4" plywood, I cut it over size then placed it on top of the base boards either side and marked it from underneath I then cut it to size This then dropped nicely to sit on the batterns. Ply sides were added to the lift out base and the roadbed cut to shape and fixed ontop of 2" x 1" "pylons" these are screwed into from above and below, The roadbed is now strong enough to be used as handle.

Because I wanted the track cuts on either side of the lift out to be of equal lengths I added a hardwood wedge on both sides and carved out a matching notch on the main boards. The other benefit is when the liftout is out, the track ends on the main boards are set back from the edge which is usefull near a doorway ( see next picture)



The bridge

Although the lift out now functioned it didnt look to hot so needed some skin on the bones. This was done using Plasticard (40 thou thick) Being a curve caused some head scratching, After starring blankley at the viaduct in Uppermill I realised the arches remain constatant, but the pillars are bigger on the outside of the rad than the inside, in effect they are not square in plan view.
I marked out the inner rad arches on the plastic then stuck it in place to the plywood roadbed and the base. Scrap plasticard was cut into rectangles the same width as the arch and stuct to the base to form a bottom to the arch (look at the bottom of the arch in the next picture)



This picture also shows the side of the arches in position along with a flat ceiling in the arch and some vertical stiffeners on the outside rad of the viaduct. The rectangles stuct to the base were a great help in marking out the arches on the back face, a flexable rule was bent round and the spaces between the rectangles measured. (remember the arch itself is the same width at the front and back its the pillar that is wider. The back was then stuck on.

I just couldnt work out the shape of the curved plastic arch roof itself, so I ended up getteing it the right length and sticking it in over width



The excess you see sticking out was trimmed of with a knife

When all this was sanded and I was happy, someone poined out I had missed the saftey coves along the top wall !!! So they were cut in and stuck on. Probably the last job was sticking strips on bottom straight section of the front and back faces of the pillars to make them stand proud and give a uniform line along the front and back at the bottom of each curve on the arch



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Viaduct part 2.

The last post was getting a bit long so Im on part 2 now !!

The ground needed to be shaped like a valley so the method of Tile adhesive on Polystyrene was used as discussed above.





Notice at this point the plastic has had a coat of aeroslo based grsy primer, this was my first attempt at concrete colour Mmmmm!

The rocks were sprayed with flecspray then Attempt 2 of concrete colour. I ended up using a cream coloured filler made to fill joints on plasterboard ( Im a builder !) This was applied diluted down with an old brush. Before applying the filler I stuck 2" masking tape horizontally all over the bridge side by side like Linning paper when wallpapering, alternate layers were removed leaving 2" strips of plasic exposed. this was painted with the filler, The remaining tape then removed and the whole the bridge painted again. This meant I had thicker stripes of filler to simulate the concrete casting lines.

White enamel paint was added at the edges of tthe thicker filler leaving "lime" stains every 2" up



A thin mix of matt black enamel in turps was then painted over the whole lot in a patchy mess



The Viaduct itself was the mor or less complete.

Trees water reeds and poachers

It just needed some life now

Some water, reeds and a fisherman who started life as a Presier decorator





Some grass and a fence (plastistuct posts and fuse wire)



I have to honest and say I dont know what the wire is on the prototype viaduct just below the top of the wall but I added it anyway. Its trackpins stuck in and fuse wire between



The track was ballasted then off for the out door photoshoot











These shots were taken in a layby with the thing sat on the car roof !!!





Hope this answers some questions ( it may raise more with my attempts and discribing things !!!) Ps you may notice speeling is not my strong point :?

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A brilliant job you have made of the viaduct John i can seeing many hours have gone into creating it.

We are running a diorama project at the moment please feel free to join in if you wish look in the club member projects section for information.

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I'll copy this into the scenery section as a "How to" article, as soon as I get 5 mins. :!:

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Robert wrote:I think you have let yourself in for one heck of a lot of explaining with those photographs John.

Sorry, I did think my attempt at describing the process was not the best !

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phill wrote: needs a couple of dents and some scratch's etc, also the metal barrier, i think its on the left as he turns needs a bit of paint rubbing on it, . Also the grass on the right turn would always get churned up when we go right, again because of cars parking too close to corners :D .
Just trying to help, sorry for that. :D :D


Ideas always welcome.

Your suggestions have been noted!!! :D I will look into the credentials of the driver and scuff his bumpers accordingly. As for the metal barrier, My nearest station is Greenfield and that has a similar bend with Armco round it, Ive lost track of how many times it has been replaced after a wipe out !! Will look into that too..


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Diesel wrote:Fantastic layout John the outdoor photo,s are brilliant it looks so real with the sunlight reflecting off that class 37 crossing the viaduct .
My little question is what material do you use for the curved platform ?


The platforms are 1/2" plywood cut out with a jigsaw (the ramp is plasticard)



The hard part is getting the shape right. I used a big piece of paper placed in the platform position overlapping the rail on the platform. The I ran my fingernail along the paper pressing against the outside of the rail leaving an imprint. Take the paper off and cut along the imprint with a pair of scissors.
Put the paper back with its newley cut curvebutting up to the rail. Get your largest item of rolling stock and hold a pencil against it whilst pushing past the paper. The diamet of the pencil means the lead is ofset by just the right amount for clearance.
(if the platform is on the outside of the line hold the pencil against the end of the coach, if the platform is on the iside of the radius hold the pencil on the center of the coach.

The line on the paper is now the leading edge of the platform cut this out with scissors again, place it on the wood and mark the wood from the cut edge of the paper.

The rail side then has stone embossd plasticard stuck on.

The top then has a 40thou thick piece of plasticard stuc on top over hanging slightly then all painted primer grey



The platform edges are made from scalescenes road road kirbs printed and cut into individual flags and stuck on. The white line is enamel hand painted on to a pencil line and the kirbs were given a more railway look by adding some pencil lines behind the white line parrallel to it.

The result







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I cannot think of any more good words to say - they have been pinched by the others. Keep it up John - first class.

( I will have to give this forum away - spend too much time on it looking at all the good photos, etc - no time for my layout 8) )

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Robert wrote:I think you have let yourself in for one heck of a lot of explaining with those photographs John.

What I meant John was that you have added so many extras to the viaduct scene that you will probabbly get people posting that they want "how to's" on those as well. So let me be the first. Did you make the trees yourself or are they purchased ones? What about the river, how did you make that? Love the 'reeds' too.



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The trees are off the shelf Noch and Guagemaster.

The river is actually quite easy I looked at all the water making products, and thought they were expensive. In the end i painted the bed in shade that were darker where i wanted it to look deeper, Then went to the back of my van and got a tube of clear silicon sealant the type you use in construction work ( About 2.50 ) I just squirted it on the cente of the bed and used a plasticard offcut to spread it out. Taking care to spread in the direction of water flow. If you want choppy water tap the surface with your chosen spreader and as it lifts it will create little peaks. If you want a bit of white water a little white enamel on the peaks will do the trick.

Here is a sea view I did on my outdoor layout, (before it was dismantled)
Same technique



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One old wallpaper brushes dipped in Green paint wie of the excess and allow to dry. When Dry get hold of a clump of bristles at the non handle end and cut off. Keeping hold f the clump stick the cut end directly into your still wet Silicon river !!!

Ps I love the smell of silicon, when I fit a kitchen or bathroom its always the last job to run the silicon beads to seal everything, Its the smell off finishing and going home !!!

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Robert wrote:Should really go in the Lineside section Jeff, along with bridges, tunnels etc. Although it is very scenic.

The lineside section summary says "If you are scratchbuilding any of these structures, please put it under scratchbuilding"

So there's Scratchbuilding or Lineside or Scenery.

Bob, you choose, I'll copy it :!: :!:

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Robert wrote:

What I meant John was that you have added so many extras to the viaduct scene that you will probabbly get people posting that they want "how to's" on those as well..............................


Thanks Bob - that's saved my typing finger - YOU BET John !!!!!!

Wonderful shots of some very highly skilled modelling. I thought the stonework on the viaduct was fantastic :wink:

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Time flies when you are having fun............ Ive just checked the calandar and if my maths is right, March the 20th 2008 is the 6 month aniversary of the shed arriving. Work inside started on the 22nd. To mark the occasion I have had the camera out to make a new video that shows most areas as they are todate, after 6 months progress.

This was the view inside 6 months ago.



Here it is .....

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No one can complain about you letting grass grow under your feet - 6 months to do that ? You must not sleep !
Or when you go to work, the neighbours come in and carry on construction of the Empire.

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6 MONTHS :shock: :shock: :shock:

How :?: :?: :? :? :? Beats the hell out of me :!: :!:

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Based on the opinion nothing is 100% finnished it can always be revisited and improved. This afternoon I have revisited the brick warehouse.

This Morning it looked like this



It now looks like this



The question is ... Is it an improvement or does it need another revist ??

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110% improvement :shock: No need to revisit in my opinion :lol: :lol:

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Is it an improvement :?: :shock:
Is the pope a Catholic :?:
Do bears doodoo in the woods :?:

That must be a trick question :!:
I'll resist the temptation to ask how you did it :!: :!:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Gwent Rail wrote:Is it an improvement :?: :shock:
Is the pope a Catholic :?:
Do bears doodoo in the woods :?:

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Yes to all of those questions!

I suggest it now gets left alone - it is very ,very good. It now looks like a building, not some coloured card/plastic.

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phill wrote:rjr this layout is awesome but i have to point one thing out, just a tad ok.
Now i work for stagecoach and that Dart you have coming along the road is too clean mate :D , needs a couple of dents and some scratch's etc, also the metal barrier, i think its on the left as he turns needs a bit of paint rubbing on it, always get a car parked awkward on these corners. Also the grass on the right turn would always get churned up when we go right, again because of cars parking too close to corners :D .
Just trying to help, sorry for that. :D :D


Had the little guy do a few test manuvers and he seems to be okay in the driving seat, although I cant help thinking if he was running late the sign post to the right might get taken out !!!







And with the bus out of the way a chance to take a picture down the street to the backscene ..



While on the bu theme also had the daily Pacer rock its way round



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The TMD been busy this afternoon, All the locos have had a wheel clean and lube (If only it reallty was as easy as driving them into the shed and letting the little plastic people do the work)





Some of the lower warehouse new windows got broken last night !!! So have had to be boarded up



And last but not least a big thanks to my nine year old daughter who braved the cold with me this mornng as we recycled the last of the deck boards that had been the base for my outdoor shelf layout. We de-nailed it and made a decking area in front of the shed.



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John, I like this scene. You have merged reality & photo very well.

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Apart from modelling and everything else,i think your railway comes to life with your use of people,really good i think :D :D

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Well i am lost for words, shut it Jeff and Perry :D :D .
I mean 6 months :shock: and you have got this far, hell im into nearly a year and i still have not made my mind up if the track i have laid will be the one. Here you are, shed up and insulated, layout built and running, its just amazing mate.
As for the Bus very good, we dont hit signs, they move towards us mate :wink: but mostly its other drivers making us to swerve to miss them.
As for the alteration on that office building, it looks really cool now and especially the way you have boarded up the windows below.
I take it the baseboards go round the inside of the shed and you are in the middle of it to operate. Which must mean you have a section that lifts up to allow access into the shed.
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I have just viewed your video shots of your layout and mighty impressed I am too. I must say that sound really does add life to a layout. I have the class 20 and I am waiting for other green RTR sound diesels to appear in the shops. I also like the working signals, which too do wonders for adding realism. Finally I also like the scenic backgrounds that you have added. You layout is a joy to watch. Well done. Qucik question. Have you/are you going to fit sound to your DMUs? If so would be interested in your thoughts.

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Waited for one of your videos to load on my dialup John, well worth the wait. Something else caught my attention however and that was the On30 on the end of your name. Just a coincidence of letter arrangement or is this another area of modelling you are interested in?



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Thanks for the encouragement, and kind words . When things turn out well its not always planned, I tend to dive in and muddle my way back out, you know what they say you cant make an omelete without breaking a few eggs !! :D

Easter weekend between church/family and hose jobs always gives a bit more time in the shed :D Go tup early this morning and decided that as the warehouse now looks better it warranted some extra details.

Fence post going in (nails spaced with a piece of plasticard)



Some fine mesh that was left over from a pack of ratio fencing



The end result, ppor policeman and his dog have to spend bank holiday monday investigating a damamged fence, I think his report it is due to age not vandalism.



As for the On30, it was my chosen scale when I came back to the hobby a couple of years ago, there is one pic I posted in the welcome thread.

Here are a couple more





The Black loco is a Bachmann Sectrum Mogul, The Green loco I scratchbuilt the body on a cheap and chearfull Bachmann Puffing Billy chassis. The boiler is Waste water pipe the rest is plasticard

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Have you/are you going to fit sound to your DMUs? If so would be interested in your thoughts.

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Hadnt really thought about it to be honest, There is not that much room for a standard 3 function decoder. I guess it may happen as i do like sound. Having said that the pacer motors are noisier than a sound chip anyway !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Robert wrote:What's the Bachmann Mogul run like John? Is it up to the standard of their 00 gauge models?

It was an excellent runner Robert. I realise from an earlier post that you are on dial up but here is a link from the older end of my YouTube Channel, that shows it nicely

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Spent an hour with two LEDs tonight, I wanted to do more really but am suffering from post shed tidying syndrome, you know how you tidy up then cant find anything. Couldnt find my roll of solder anywhere so had to make do with the 4mm diameter solder out of my plumbing box :? ideal for copper pipe work a little tricky with LEDs. buit never mind persistance prevailed !!


Added two yard lights to the wharehouse









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Fantastic night shots John - just thinking, if I lit my layout and only used it in the dark, I'd only need to detail the areas around the lights !! Could save me a lot of time and heart-ache ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re losing your solder - that just serves you right for tidying up the shed !! I've always worked on the premise that I know where it is in the mess and that's all that matters. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re losing your solder - that just serves you right for tidying up the shed !! I've always worked on the premise that I know where it is in the mess and that's all that matters. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Yes, it is a timewaster tidying up - not only in the time taken to tidy up but the time wasted in trying to find that elusive missing solder, etc :lol:


There is someting to be said about having a dark layout lit by street & building lights, etc - I mean, we could model all the night time operations.

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There is someting to be said about having a dark layout lit by street & building lights, etc - I mean, we could model all the night time operations.

Now who or what could you possibly model that only works at night Sol ? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol:

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Looking very good - I can see some candidates for the weekly header photo with your night time shots. I particularly like the low level view of the DMU coming straight towards the viewer. Excellent effects.

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Lovely atmosphere there, John. The colour of those LEDs is very realistic.

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Just finnised working on some track plans (yet more Sketch up !) and thought Id post them up

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Plan view all levels included



Plan view the upper TMD board removed for clarity



The lower level (traverser) all other levels omitted

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That looks really good John.
Are still sending that thing to help me use the sketch programe, did send my e mail but incase you never got it, its trainnut2@hotmail.com
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phill wrote:That looks really good John.
Are still sending that thing to help me use the sketch programe, did send my e mail but incase you never got it, its trainnut2@hotmail.com
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didnt get your email but I have just sent you the file now !!

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The files will not open, seems the programe for them i have not got, i have word if that works John.
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Due to spending the week suffering form tortocolis (neck spasms) Ive not done any modelling, but yesterday I wandered down to the shed with the intention of getting a bit more of the portable layout done. Well you know what its like I spent an hour "testing" locos :D

Ended uo with 50 + pics of Springhead Junction and an afternoon trip on a DMU.

Here we ar sat in the station waiting for some pasing freight to clear



Then off out into heading for the country.



Crossing the viaduct is always a favourite of mine



I like the views



After I just caught the DMU leaving the station



Then watched some more freight



Even got to have a look in the "shed"



I enjoyed my trip out even if I never left an 8' x 6' garden shed :D Model railways aren't they just great !!! :D :D :D

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Well I get to go to Wales every time I step into the layout room, from Western Australia :shock:
I'd love to see the real thing but for the time being it works for me.

Thanks for sharing the photo's of your "outing"... very entertaining.
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What a wonderfull day you had on your trip bet you really felt relaxed after that. Did you get the tea delivered ok whilst on your trip? hope it was not BR stuff thou :?
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Ps wonderfull picks but as always i have to change me background now you sent those, oh what a job i got now of choosing which one.



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Hi John

Good to see you again, and thanks for the invite, I see the layout is coming on, how is the new bridge, as I have not had time to read all of this thread!

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A week ago or so I posted a couple of questions about Smoke units and a "cheap" steam sound decoder (under £40)After some thought I took the plunge. The plan was to add smoke and sound to my black crab but after an hour of trying to fit the decoder and smoke unit in the boiler space (the speaker is in the tender) I admitted defeat and left the smoke unit out. Not wanting to whaste it I fitted it to my smaller 6671 loco.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbCHBeAduEQ

To the trained ear I guess its not the right sound for a crab but to my unknowledgeable ears it makes a steam loco sought of noise !!!

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The generic steam sound is pretty good for £40 a good little steam unit

Shame the smoke couldnt fit in but the bachmann crab hasnt a great deal of room in it

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a decent sound effect from a unit at that price,i just might be able to afford one of those.thanks for the video.:roll:
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I think the sound unit is very effective. What make is it? It would be good if you could explain how you installed it. This sounds like a good solution to fitting sound to those older steam locos converted to DCC. Could a decoder be fitted to a smaller tank engine, or do you need to have a tender for the speaker etc?

I think the smoke unit looks good too. Pity you could not fit them both in the same loco.

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The decoder is a "soundtrax DSS 101LC" available from DCCsupplies or Bromsgrove.

It is quite a big decoder at about 40mm long by 12 'ish wide so it just fit in pushed right up to the smoke box door ! I even ended up taking the 8 bin plug off and its socket had to go too !! So its wired in direct ( not that difficult just solder the relevant wires together the instruction tell you which wire goes where)

The speake is in the tender as it is a similar size to the decoder, getting a wire to the tender was the hardst bit



As you can see the speaker would not fit in a small loco !

I drilled some holes in the top of the tender, in between the loose coal i had previously glued into the bunker, so youcan hardly spot them.

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Although it would add to the cost as i assume that speaker came with the setup.

You can buy smaller Lokpilot ESU rectangular speakers plus there are the smaller round ones

I added extra speakers in my 37 and 47 in the fuel tanks using them thats a mod definately worth doing as you get a good bass sound bouncing of the ballast.

Not sure if it would be advantage in a stem unit though.

John i often paint the wires between tender and loco if they are needed Matt black looks quite good and it looks as if they are meant to be there then.

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Great effects there rjr - love the hard pulling crab.  You said it may not sound like a real crab - what the hell ? - it sounds like a hard working steam loco and that's good enough for me.

Also, liked the way the smoke trailed down over the train - just like the real thing.  Tell me, can they make it "blast" yet or is it just smoking ? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



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Well as i dont know one sound from another steam train, i thought it sound great and also i like the smoke.

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Same here Phill. Loved it all.

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Brian .w. The speaker was not included I bought that for its size as everyone tells me the bigger the better. To be honest though I dont think I could fit much more in the boiler space. I doubt even a small speaker would go in. As for the wires good advice I wll paint them black.

Petermac As for the smoke it is just smoking but with a bit of practice on the function buttons Im sure I could get some "irregular" effects :) I also noticed that when it first heats up the first couple of smoke puffs kind of POP as they come out ! Biggest downside I can see is in a small enviroment like my shed you couldnt have it smoking for to long unless you want to model thick fog!

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John......................John...........................Where are you.......................

 

Are you okay......... are you ill............................. as you hav'nt posted on here for over two days :mutley

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Hello. Im still alive and well !!! Its just been one of those weeks. I said to Mrs RJR at tea time " rumour has it there is a railway in that shed but I cant remember !!!

Im hoping to get down there at some point tomorrow , somewhere between the youngest and oldest daughters playing netball at two venues that overlap in times ?!?!

I having been planning though, im considering allowing a local consortium of little plastic people purchasing the siddings on the right side of the shed to convert the small container handling facility into a heritage railway. Then I can happily have my steam on the upstairs 80s era as well as downstairs on the 60's era layout ????

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Yet again another good idea from you John.

A very good way of being able to mis your running stock.

 

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Today i brought the model rail magazine for my first time and i found one of ur pics on page 67.
Grats on getting your picture published :D

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thanks benllben I think at the momment model rail has at least one YMR member every month.

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Ok. This month there was two.
I got mine because of two things on the front that seemed helpfull and i dont plan buying again but you never know.

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