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 Posted: Thu Aug 8th, 2019 06:22 pm
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hi barry and thanks,   I like the idea of the first plan the top line   red  and bottom green running 2 trains also the yellow section  …   its getting the nerve to do it  lol  my electrics  knowledge stinks   cheers bob    ..    

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Here is the basic wiring schematic for cab control and an isolated section.

Have a practice with a few bits of track first - its easier to see in the flesh sometimes and you can trace where the power is going.  I have ignored the 16vAC or 240v power in connections to the controller here.



Note that the red and black wires from the DPDT switch central connections go to the feed and return for the track.  The red wires for the isolating section go to the feed side only.

If you want some help, let me know and I will flesh out the whole schematic and stick in the post to the West Country.

Happy wiring!!

Barry

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I think you know what I am going to say   lol    I will pay for the postage   I can then take the plan  it to the work shed cheers bob .…. 

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Hello Bob and Barry,
Without trying to create an issue, and having now seen the diagram and thinking of possible operations, I feel that the blocks can be cut down to 6 switches.

My own design was on the following premises

1)  Bob has professed to not being terribly confident wiring wise -  using common rail saves half the wiring and make fault finding easier
2)  Bob has either two controllers or a gaugemaster which allows for common rail use
3)  The control panel will have a little more room to work around.

The single pole switch (preferably centre off) could also then be a block on/block off if it is only a case of one engine in steam.  

Bob, I can understand the trepidation you have - I have similar trepidation to restoring parts of my own layout, let alone adding extra signals etc for a variety of reasons - however it is your railway and up to you to decide the way you want to go!

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hi all I dont want to upset anyone on here , everyone of you have help me in the past , trevor you help more then anyone on here all I am after is a easy way of wiring this layout my grandson and I wanted two trains but now I think 1 train with isolate side track to maybe park one up  and get another on the layout as well ….. again thank all for the help  bob 

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Hi Bob,
I do not want to upset anyone here either -  nor would I try to dictate my way or the highway.  I am pleased that  both Paul and Barry were prepared to have a go at helping you with Paul drawing (pardon the pun) on the lessons with his layout which he picked up on very quickly!  None of us are forever so that passing of knowledge is important to me but not quite so much even that as the willingness to impart it.

However there are more ways to skin the proverbial cat with regards to wiring. Barry did make a suggestion which I could reduce the wiring involved so I will make another post with that modification in mind using his diagram. Ultimately you have to go with what you are comfortable with doing - as I say - it is YOUR railway!

Drawing to follow!

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Good idea Trevor - its easier to solder to a switch terminal than it is to the track!!

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I have my plan so now down to me and hope I can do my first cab control thanks for the drawings and help... this is what I like about this forum  ….  you get great help  .. I will keep you posted    cheers bob :doublethumb

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