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 Posted: Sun Jul 28th, 2019 05:18 pm
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Rick and Nigel plus interested parties. I actually meant “ to hold the powders in position on the vehicle “,rather than being rubbed off over time and looking smudged.  Being the weathering novice that I am. Best wishes Kevin 



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Of those contributing to this thread Trevor and Petermac have both seen my weathering first-hand and may recall as much if they stretch their memories far enough! I make no pretence of skill. I am self-taught and have made a few mistakes along the way. The simple fact stands that - medical conditions notwithstanding - if we never start we shall never find out what we can or, possibly, cannot do.

It costs very little to purchase a few basics. You can probably get going for under £20 and maybe even less. A brush and a basic set of three or four powders from the likes of Tamiya or DCC Concepts. I dislike Humbrol as their powder is gritty and poorly ground so does not grab; instead it scratches smooth plastic surfaces if you can get it onto the brush at all.

I have, or had, a short video clip somewhere online but fear it might have been on my Photobucket site which has gone down the gurgler. I'll see what can be found.



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Hi Rick. Thank you for your reply. I will take your advice. But it will have to wait until I am independent in the walking department. And get to the next model Railway show with my shopping list. Best wishes Kevin 



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If you can get them in the UK, Bragden powders are the best, and I have tried a few different brands. Powdered minerals and rusts, 100 times finer than chalk powders, with a dry adhesive coating that gets activated when brushing on. Needs a matt surface though. You only need small amounts. Good set is around $40.00.  

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Hi Nigel. Thank you for your reply. Bragden  that could sound like the fans of my local Soccer Team, if they ever win?Which is a rare occurrence. But I do not understand how that brushing action activates the powders, and does it make it adhere to the plastic bodywork?   Best wishes Kevin 



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Hi Kevin,can you not get what you want online?



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Hi Nigel.  Another reply. I wish that I kept up with my Swedish language lessons, because when I googled Bragden all I got was an excited Swedish commentary at a sporting event. Best wishes Kevin 



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Hi Alan. Thank you for your reply. That is a good question, but I do not know what I need, exactly. Best wishes Kevin 



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Hi Rick.  I have just read through your reply again, I remember, that fifty odd years ago when my local model shop only sold Hornby or   Fleischmann Model Railways. Of course I went for Hornby and if I had known about weathering and wanted to do it at that time it was just a matter of undoing the screws and the roof would pop off likewise the glazing. Does that not happen with modern stock?  Best wishes Kevin  



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Hi Rick.  Yet another reply. You mentioned a sable paint brush, being unfamiliar with artist quality brushes as I am could you be more specific on size/ type / or whatever brush I should ask for, if I can make such a purchase in my part of London or how I can locate a suitable outlet.  Best wishes Kevin 



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Mea culpa - Bragdon Enterprises.

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All Greek to me :lol:

Don't think they're available in the UK Nigel.


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Hi Nigel.  Thank you for your reply. What did I misread it?   Best wishes Kevin 



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Hi Nigel.  I see it now? I replied to Rick. My fault, indeed. Best wishes Kevin 



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Ed wrote: BCDR wrote: Mea culpa



All Greek to me :lol:

Don't think they're available in the UK Nigel.


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Hi Ed,

Latin, that's why. Several US suppliers will ship to the UK. Megahobby.com for example. The DCC Concepts range looks to be rebranded Bragdon (submicron, coated for adhesion, color range looks identical).

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Hi Nigel.   Now I really confused, when you said “mea culpa” I could not remember where the message came from?Now I realise that it was from you, referring to a misspelling.   Best wishes Kevin 



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BCDR wrote: Ed wrote: BCDR wrote: Mea culpa



All Greek to me :lol:

Don't think they're available in the UK Nigel.


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Hi Ed,

Latin, that's why. Several US suppliers will ship to the UK. Megahobby.com for example. The DCC Concepts range looks to be rebranded Bragdon (submicron, coated for adhesion, color range looks identical).

Nigel

The Romans left a long time ago :roll:

With the current exchange rate I don't think many people will be ordering anything from the USA, or anywhere else overseas for that matter.


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I would have to jump in and agree with Rick and the others who said "have a go".

My thread on weathering (albeit using an airbrush) showed that you can go from "total numpty" to "yes - I like that" in a few attempts.  The secret is to make mental/written notes of what you do and what you use.  Follow the advice of others and experiment on old stuff. 

Everybody has old stuff - anything thats plastic will do to get you started - an old bus, truck, wagon, anything.



I have posted this before - its my first ever airbrush weathering attempt and it got binned within minutes of this photo being taken.  It started out as a well painted and lettered MR 10T box van but ended up looking like the loser in a mud fight.

Within a few weeks, I was doing this ;



The difference between these two results is about 2 dozen practice goes!!

I have also seen Rick's weathering first hand and can vouch for the realism of powders.  Grill him for details of powders, brushes and techniques - brave the joys of eBay and have a bash!!

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Hi Barry.  Thank you for your reply. I am the odd one out, forty odd years ago I got rid of everything. And on my return to model Railways in 2015 I started again from scratch with new stock. And now the price of rubbish 2nd hand stock at shows is not far short of new stock. I have got some “cut and shut “ projects waiting in the wings “ but I have got to save that until my hands are steady enough to do the job.  I will seek more advice from Rick on weathering.             Best wishes Kevin 



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For cheap practice stock Kevin, you could do worse than buy some of the old Airfix kits - now marketed by Dapol I think ....................

They make up into fairly decent wagons but are cheap to buy.



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