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 Posted: Tue Apr 23rd, 2019 05:07 pm
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Hi all,
First of all, let me state that this is not a dig at the product Aqua Magic - I have seen videos and pictures of the wonderful stuff which show great realism.

My problem is that in trying to add some water affects to my layout, ie standing water in the goods yard/TMD and a slow running river/stream at the rear of the layout, certain areas are crystal clear but others have turned a milky white.
I am trying not to apply it too thickly - only a mm at a time to get the depth. I am obviously doing something wrong.

Can any of you shed some light on this and a possible way of rectifying the already set application.



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Gary, have you tried contacting the manufacturer for advice?


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Is there any moisture present near the areas you are applying it as Moisture ( water) if present will turn any form of resin a milky cloudy colour.
Also if you are applying it thick if its an air drying resin that will give of gases when curing that become trapped
( gases cant rise through thick resin)and give a cloudy effect.

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Terry, I have not tried contacting the manufacturers for advice yet as I thought it was probably down to me not doing something right.
Brian, the thought of moisture may be the issue but that side of the layout has not been touched scenically for a good two months but that may well be the issue. I didn't think that I was applying it too thickly as I am only doing around a mm at a time but that said, there does seem to be the odd area where there are milky patches ( like the ones that form on a frozen pond where the air is trapped) so that may well be down to the chemical effect.
I have never used this before so am open to any advice.
If I were to cut out the effected areas will I get a seam line where to new and old meet? In the goods yard, I will be trying to cut up to and into ballast.

I appreciate your thoughts on this.



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Guidelines say each layer must be thoroughly dry - at least 48 hrs at 20 degrees C. before you add another layer.  Maybe that is the problem?  You could try using a hair dryer on the affected parts, that may help to clear it.  Although I have only done this with water effects that needed heating, but it always worked (EZ water by Woodland Scenics) . Can't say it  will be true for Aqua Magic.

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Thanks for that tip Michael, I will try to sneak the good ladies hair dryer out of the bedroom later and give it a whirl.



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Try the hair dryer on one area, If that doesn't work the moisture may be trapped under the top dry layer, If you are thinking you may have to cut out the affected areas anyway then first try putting several pinpricks over the affected area and try the hair dryer again, moving in from the outside of the patch and see if that helps. If it does work you can then add a final layer once the patches are gone. Alternatively  bit of greeny ,brown paint on the patches and once dry a further coat of clear to represent patches of weed !
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Thank you Matt.
I will try that.



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How did you get on, Gary?

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I usually use Woodland Scenics Realistic Water but it is a bit expensive here. I decided to try aqua magic and have just bought some.

So i'm also interested in how it turned out before I use it.

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