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 Posted: Wed Mar 20th, 2019 11:50 pm
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I may have mentioned somewhere that in another life I am a wargamer.  Its just modelling with a different hat on really - the models are more "representational" because they tend to be handled a lot more and the scenery is somewhat idealised - as long as both players known that its a swamp, for example, it only has to look vaguely like a swamp.

In the wargamers World there are a number of forums, much like this one, but populated by people who are, by their nature, competitive.  As a result, some of the posts are, at best, described as vitriolic.  The mods let a lot go but I have just spent an evening reading through a discussion on "realism".  It all got a bit bloody once or twice as the arguements raged back and forth.

How lucky we are that in the model railway World generally and on this forum specifically, there is a community wish to be helpful, supportive and constructive.  Yes, there are differences of opinion but we don't spill blood in the process (even when I suggested that model railway shows were falling short of my expectations, I survived unscathed!).

Long may the environment that has been created here continue.

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AUSSIETRAINS wrote: Here, here.Where's Here and how accurately have you modelled it and to what scale?:mrgreen:



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The Q wrote: AUSSIETRAINS wrote: Here, here.Where's Here and how accurately have you modelled it and to what scale?:mrgreen:


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You hit the nail on the head there Barry, railway modelling is not really competitive.

Can't remember last time we had a thread locked or post deleted on here, unlike some other large model railway forums I could mention (begins with R and ends in b).

Everyone on here is very helpful and I've learnt a hell of a lot and not just railway modelling. History and building construction come immediately to mind.

As you say, long may it continue and heart felt thanks to the late Bob Heath for setting it up.



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Amen.
Let's keep it that way.

Enjoy the journey, tell the story, be helpful if you can, if you can't ... be encouraging.






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Barry Miltenburg wrote: I may have mentioned somewhere that in another life I am a wargamer.  Its just modelling with a different hat on really - the models are more "representational" because they tend to be handled a lot more and the scenery is somewhat idealised - as long as both players known that its a swamp, for example, it only has to look vaguely like a swamp.

In the wargamers World there are a number of forums, much like this one, but populated by people who are, by their nature, competitive.  As a result, some of the posts are, at best, described as vitriolic.  The mods let a lot go but I have just spent an evening reading through a discussion on "realism".  It all got a bit bloody once or twice as the arguements raged back and forth.

How lucky we are that in the model railway World generally and on this forum specifically, there is a community wish to be helpful, supportive and constructive.  Yes, there are differences of opinion but we don't spill blood in the process (even when I suggested that model railway shows were falling short of my expectations, I survived unscathed!).

Long may the environment that has been created here continue.


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Well said Barry and absoutely spot on. :thumbs

It's just a pity that so many modellers haven't yet seen the light by modelling the LNER ............... :mutley



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Petermac wrote It's just a pity that so many modellers haven't yet seen the light by modelling the LNER ............... :mutley

 :hmm  Wrong shade of green. :mutley




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John Dew wrote: Petermac wrote It's just a pity that so many modellers haven't yet seen the light by modelling the LNER ............... :mutley

 :hmm  Wrong shade of green. :mutley



I tend to agree John - I hate the "Apple" green but love the dark "bottle" (?) green of GWR/BR days. 

Other than the colour, would you be happy with the LNER Mr. Dew ...............................? :mutley :cheers



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I'd like to be able to capture that GWR green, so that I can repaint my Hornby Duck. For whatever reason, Hornby decided to cast Duck's plastic in a green bright enough for a high-visibility vest!



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If this were a certain wargames forum, there would follow a 6-month heated discussion about the conceptual dynamic of our desire to recreate "green"................... :lol:  :twisted: :lol:

The closest we have come is the thread about "Getting fun out of your layout" where I think we all concluded that Rule 1 was the most important.

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Petermac wrote: John Dew wrote: Petermac wrote It's just a pity that so many modellers haven't yet seen the light by modelling the LNER ............... :mutley

 :hmm  Wrong shade of green. :mutley



I tend to agree John - I hate the "Apple" green but love the dark "bottle" (?) green of GWR/BR days. 

Other than the colour, would you be happy with the LNER Mr. Dew ...............................? :mutley :cheers

GWR changed the shade slightly in the 1920s. The later shade and the BR variant were, I think, called Brunswick Green. I agree with Brendan.....the less said about Hornby's interpretation of GWR Green the better.

Regarding the LNER ......I will admit to admiring the Teak coaches!


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Oh yes, of course - Brunswick Green - silly me.  I should have had that at my fingertips !!!

The teak coaches are just the tip of the iceberg John, but at least it's a start .....................however, LMS is an acceptable alternative. :lol:



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Don't Humbrol do a Brunswick Green?



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GWR Green: Slinn's color chart shows 4 greens. Dark, darker, even darker and isn't that black? Preservation societies have a lot to answer for. Plus the habit of cleaners using paraffin soaked rags to clean the engines, thus embedding soot into the lacquer. Brunswick green would start out almost black and then get lighter as the copper salts in the paint oxidized.

Re Barry's comment. Nice to be in a forum that offers advice and pointers, not criticism, and where all levels of skill are welcome. Long may it continue.

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John Dew wrote: Petermac wrote: John Dew wrote: Petermac wrote It's just a pity that so many modellers haven't yet seen the light by modelling the LNER ............... :mutley

 :hmm  Wrong shade of green. :mutley



I tend to agree John - I hate the "Apple" green but love the dark "bottle" (?) green of GWR/BR days. 

Other than the colour, would you be happy with the LNER Mr. Dew ...............................? :mutley :cheers

GWR changed the shade slightly in the 1920s. The later shade and the BR variant were, I think, called Brunswick Green. I agree with Brendan.....the less said about Hornby's interpretation of GWR Green the better.

Regarding the LNER ......I will admit to admiring the Teak coaches!


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Well, their color choice for Duck isn't even an interpretation of GWR green (for their interpretation of GWR green, I'd look at non-Thomas stuff), since they were basing it off the TV series. But even for that it's too bright - his TV series green is a light yet dull shade, while the Hornby model is a ridiculously bright day-glo green. I'm talking so bright that it makes Apple Green look like Brunswick Green in comparison.



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Green? I thought ducks were yellow, at least the one in my bathroom is.

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