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Hello fellow modellers, here are a few words about my new layout in 0/16.5 Narrow gauge called Knottworthy Magna, this is a small 4'6" x 24" double sided roundy roundy layout based upon Ted Pollets famous "Nixnie" layout in 009.
Ted lives in Holland, and his layout has been well documented in the 009 forums and on the exhibition circuit, after my 009 layout "Glen Ogle" was disposed of, I decided to make my modelling life a little easier, if slightly more expensive, by going up a scale and size with my new layout.

I get my enjoyment out of the building of layouts, the operational side is of little interest to me other than watching my efforts come to life in as realistic a way as possible, so I wanted something quick to occupy me.

I had enjoyed reading about Ted Pollet's "Nixnie layout, and I admire his modelling skills , so I decided to take a shortcut, by pass the angst and brain cudgelling of finding a suitable model able idea, and simply copy a proven concept.

Because of the increase in scale and gauge, the layout baseboard had to be increased in size, but the general layout remained the same, an oval of track, with a central, slightly diagonal divider double sided back scene.

One side has a semi industrial scene, the other a rural scene, a tunnel divides the scenes at one end, and a large handmade tree at each side of the back-scene, hides a hole through the back-scene at the other end.

At the tunnel end, the tunnel exits at the industrial side of the layout, onto a timber trestle bridge, over the river Knott and passes the front of the factory, with a single faced passenger halt for the factory worker, at the rear of which a fan of sidings similar to a shunting puzzle, laid out as a goods yard.  On along the front of the factory, past a line-side plate-layer's both y, before turning right under a canopy of trees through the hole in the back-scene to the other side.

Having passed below the trees and through the back-scene, exiting below a second tree at the other side, the line passes the front of a low relief engine shed which hides a spur heading off scene at that end of the layout to an off scene fiddle yard in the form of a complete train turntable.

Passing over the shed entrance point, the line passes over a level crossing adjacent to a signal box and on towards a small rural single platform and passing loop, on to the tunnel mouth and then through to the other side of the layout and the trestle bridge.
This was basically Ted's layout in 009, his modelling is superb, I have a great respect for him, and would like to think he would appreciate this blatant copy, and this is why the layout is called "Knottworthy", a play on words he might appreciate. 

A few pictures to follow:-

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Brian Twigg.

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As promised, some pictures of Knottworthy Magna.
One side view of the layout which for convenience, I will designate as the front.



The reverse side view, which for convenience I will designate as the back










More pictures later if anyone is interested.

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What a lovely little layout it just shows what a layout can be made in such a small area


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Thank you Brian, you're the first to respond to my new layout, I'm glad you like it, if you want to see and appreciate the inspiration for it, try googling "Nixnie", Ted Pollet's layout is a real gem.
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BrianT, while only Brian has responded,, many have viewed it so don't be disheartened.



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Hello Ron, I'm not at all disappointed, it's a long time since I posted regularly on any of the forums I visit, but if you followed my Glen Ogle layout thread, I was used to some silence occasionally, the layout is built so there will be no blow by blow account, perhaps an occasional upgrade.
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Hi Brian,

Nice. Double sided, so no front/back. At 2 feet wide those are some tightish curves for On30/7mm narrow gauge. Any chance of a track plan? DC or DCC ? Locomotives?

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Good morning Nigel.
The electrics are radio control 3.7 volt Lipo battery per loco, with a baseboard 7Ahr battery controlling the servo driven level crossing gates, engine shed doors and station lights etc.

The points are all hand flicked at the moment but I did have plans to move them with servos, but I can't find my roundtuit gizmo at the moment.

The loco's are mainly Smallbrook Studio resin kits mounted on Hornby Smoky Joe chassis with Del Tang radio receivers driven by a hand held controller.

The track plan is an oval, a fiddle yard off scene at one end, a passing looped station at the front, a simple halt at the rear, with a fan of sidings to the rear factory laid out as a shunting puzzle.

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Hi Brian,

I thought there was more to this than just really nice scenery and buildings. I know several others here are interested in radio control (I am, having played around with radio controlled DCC, both silent and sound, for a while), so a few more details on how long they run on a charge and how they are charged would I am sure be appreciated by others. I am familiar with the Del Tang system, it is a nice way into radio control, but others may not be. A fiddle yard and a shunting puzzle as well, this small layout has it all.

Did you keep the original Hornby wheels or use something a bit smaller? Any photos of the locomotives?

4.5' x 2' (9 square feet) and On30 7mm. Bravo.

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Hello again Nigel.
It would perhaps be simpler for me to show the complete layout pictures on here with the descriptive captions rather than keep replying to questions, I didn't think there would be a great deal of interest in Knottworthy Magna, it was only a question about my old "Glen Ogle" layout that fired me up to start visiting the forums again.

I should perhaps point out that I am not a rivet counter, or absolute scale fanatic, near enough is good enough for me, so for instance, I know the Hornby Smoky Joe chassis is crude and has over scale wheels, but with a 3.7v Lipo Battery, it trundles around quite nicely giving me movement, and I'm quite happy to overlook its many inaccuracies, so no, I have not changed the wheels for more scale ones.

I have just had an article published in the 7mm Narrow Gauge societies bi-monthly magazine, with a picture adorning the front cover of the mag, and the story of its build between the covers, and that'll do me. 

I'm quite happy to answer any questions you may have, and pass on any information or tips to fellow modeller's, my Scribing's have always been a warts/mistakes and all effort, anyone who's never made a mistake can't have made much in his life.

I will come back to this later with more pictures, but tonight is my dog sitting night for my Daughter and her Hubby, as the go to rehearsals for this years production of a show called "Big", which, if anyone has seen the film, has a stage piano keyboard which I have been tasked to make for them.   This has 22 notes and is 16 foot long, two of the cast dance on this and each footfall lights up the Opal Acrylic note top with blue LED's, inside the 36"x 8" notes via inbuilt micro switches.

Catch up with you later.

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BrianT.

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Hello BrianT,
Nice little layout. Is the river made from varnish? It has come up very well.



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Hello Marty, yes the river is many coats of clear varnish.
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Mr Moderator, I have just spent a period of time posting pictures and captions to my thread, and pressed the wrong key, can you please recover them, I don't want to have to do it all again.
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I dont think Mr Moderator can magic pictures back if you actually uploaded them they will be in your gallery if you click reply to post then when window opens click Insert existing photo from gallery window will open and hopefully all the ones you uploaded will be there if so just redo your post using that insert button to select your pictures.

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Thank you for your attempt at help Brian, unfortunately, the wordage and pictures have gone.
I really don't feel like starting the post again from scratch, but I suppose I will have to  :roll:.

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Upload all your pictures first into the gallery less chance of whole thing going wrong then.

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Second attempt at my promise to show pictures of the layout with captions, so here goes.
Starting at what I will call the front right of the layout, we have a low relief engine shed, positioned up to an end back-scene, this hides an off scene fiddle yard train turn table with, cassette storage capacity.   The shed doors are motorised with 12v servo motors.   Passing onward, the line crosses a level crossing whose servo operated gates are closed against a waiting local Brewery delivery lorry.  We then pass in front of the Knottworthy Magna signal box with the signal mans pride and joy, his very shiny Messerschmidt three wheeled bubble car.  The large tree overshadowing the right of the signal box is a home made effort, constructed to hide the hole in the back scene, which allows trains from the other side of the layout to pass through.  The road surface Tarmac, is 180 grade wet and dry paper.



We move on to a view of Knottworthy's single station platform with its passing loop, rudimentary shelter.   A sprinkling of passengers await the train approaching from the tunnel under the hill, which is formed by a squirt of builders squirty foam over the track protected card board tunnel liner, and into the corner formed by left hand end back scene board and the slightly diagonal end to end back scene, that runs vertically from the left  hand end back scene board to the the right hand end back scene board at the engine shed.  The retaining wall and tunnel portal. is 60th plasticard with  layer of DAS  modelling clay laid on a bed of PVA glue to its face, when dry and hard, the stonework was scribe'd into the clay and coloured with dilute water colour paint before being glued into place at the tunnel mouth.  On the platform can be seen a hand operated yard crane which has recently unloaded some goods for delivery to the adjacent village.





Heading on and through the foam tunnel, we exit at what I will call the back of this double sided layout, and proceed onto a timber trestle bridge which crosses the river Knott.  This is a placid slow moving river with some small riverbed cascades view able through the bridge supports.   This is a popular spot for the local populace to spend a quiet afternoon, where local fishermen can can while away the hours, content in the knowledge that they are not going to be interrupted either by a kamikaze fish requiring attention, or there wives, reminding them that the little bedroom, AKA railway room, could do with a coat of emulsion.  Behind the bench seat can be seen a wagon or two, at rest in the factories fan of goods sidings, laid out in a shunting puzzle formation.   Also in view is the end of the factory managements railway halt, laid out to assist their workers get to work from the surrounding countryside.



Another view of the factory frontage behind the afternoon special, that has used, with the managment's permission, its ability to stop and drop off a few more passengers, taking advantage of the weather, to visit this spot.  Down by the riverside, a loan fisherman has been joined, much to his annoyance, by one of the visiting spectators, who is doing his best to annoy him, by asking inane questions of him.  The fisherman is doing his best to point out that had he wished to have an afternoons session of question time, he would have stayed at home and listened to his wife.





An overhead view of the scene.



Meanwhile the train passes into the tunnel on its way to Knottworthy



Later in the day a second train enters the scene and makes its way to the halt to pick up some of the day visitors, and showing the full extent of this imposing factory building.  the local pickup goods enters the yard behind it, to shunt the yard, and collect some outward destined goods.



The pickup goods engine continues to shunt the yard while the goods receiving clerk stands in the goods covered bay to guide him to where he wants the goods placing.  A couple of prospective employees have arrived at the Administration entrance for there interviews, each sizing each other up as competitors for the office job on offer.  A third candidate who has been interviewed earlier, and has been asked to wait, rests on some earlier delivered crates in the yard, confident that as he is the only other candidates who has been asked to wait, he must be in with a chance of getting the job.


Approaching the end of the back view and coming up to the tight right and bend of the layout, the line passes a Platelayer's Bothy with one of the rail employees making his way in for his morning drink.  The line passes under a second home made tree hiding the hole through the back scene and on towards the start of our tour of the line at the engine shed.

That's about it for tonight folks, I'm tired and had enough, enjoy, or not as the case may be.

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Good morning friends, well it is here in Yorkshire.
I thought I had posted the last few pictures of the layout last night, but when I opened up this morning I could not find them.
While I was looking in my Photobucket account for them again, I came across this that I thought might interest other DIY engineers amongst us.



They are two kit cars I built, the blue one is a roadgoing GTM Spyder, rear engined, a la MG GT, with a "K" series engine, all fibreglass tub upon which all the mechanical parts are bolted, with a first time pass through the mandatory SVA test, my daughter enjoyed it for a while, was taken to her wedding in it by me, but her husband is over 6ft tall, and his head height put his eyebrows over the top of the windscreen, so it had to go.

The red one is a half size Land Rover series 2, built with paper plans from the Toylander company.  It is built from two sheets of MDF, 12mm thick, has two 12v invalidity scooter motors, and forward / reverse gear lever, handbrake from the doner car to the GTM kitcar, disc brakes from pedal cycles, electric horn, flashing indicators, side and head lights and was much enjoyed by my Grandson of four years of age at the time.  During the build. just after I had fitted the folding windscreen, upon examination by his young Lordship, he pointed out that it had no windscreen wipers, so a trip to the local car scrapyard found two headlamp wipers from a Saab that were duly fitted to his satisfaction.

Kids eh, don't you love em.

Not quite railway modelling, but one of the many branches of DIY I have enjoyed over my 80 years.

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Right, to get back to the matter in hand, Knottworthy.





I left you with a view along the back of the layout, this is the left hand corner of the factory with a pickup goods approaching the right hand bend and on through the hole in the back scene.  the main factory is a card model built as designed by a company called "Purple Bob", I required a covered goods in bay from the expanding factory, so the directors commissioned an extension to match the original building as much as possible, so a second factory kit was purchased and adapted to make the goods bay.  The large tree is a home made effort to hide the sharp bend, and the exit hole through the back scene to the front of the layout. A further view block was placed here in the form of a plate-layers Bothy, and a member of that fraternity is about to enter for his morning break.

And that concludes the whistle stop tour of the whole layout

Tarah and regards for now,

BrianT. 

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Lovely projects Brian and as a lifelong old car enthusiast and a rather tall chap, I fully emphasise with lack of headroom in many of the more interesting cars, hence my leaning toward topless motoring.

Well done in respecting the user's preference for correct accessories. Older Saabs are interesting and useful :)

Besides traditional soft-tops, the 2CV also makes a most entertaining conveyance for taller types, although the subject of my profile picture answers rather well too.

Oh and a splendid railway with super photos taking us on an inspiring journey around the layout.

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