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 Posted: Wed Nov 21st, 2018 12:47 am
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Michael,long before static grass, we had either scatter (ground sponge) or lint.  Medical Lint, which now comes on a small roll or folded into a box. It isn't as luxuriant as it once was so you have to be careful how you tease it up or the cloth backing shows.  I believe it was Barry Norman who originally suggested sticking it down and then ripping it off once the glue had set, but we never did that at the Ilford club. We had a very big EM layout called Totnes and I was very much the scenery man.  Whole cuttings of lint.  We used to dye it with Dylon capsules, then lay it as it was, cloth side down and when stuck (usually with Evo-Stik) we coloured it up locally with gouche paints (very matt).  Sheep runs and footpaths could be rolled into it with a Dinky toy wheel on a piece of bent wire to flatten it locally while the paint was still tacky, or tease it up with a brass wired suede brush into longer grass, even small weed bushes.  Gordon Gravett mentions it in his book on grasslands.  I have used it in EM, O gauge and even on a 1/32nd scale diorama of Shelseley Walsh Hillclimb to show off my slot car builds.  These days with it being a little sparsely fluffed (aren't we all?) it is definitely advisable to stick it down cloth side down and forget the silly tearing up business.
The last lint I got was from ebay. It's under Medical Lint.  I have used it on Lantern Yard because when I started that long winded set-piece I hadn't even heard of static grass!
Good luck if you try it.




This has followed me for years and got a bit dusty, but it had to be done. I was missing me mud!

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Hi. Evan,  Michael,  and. Sam.  Thank you All for your replies.    It would seem that by using the “. wrong “ static grass in error? I have followed the correct path. The 2mm grass that I originally purchased for weathering walls, is the recommended way to do it, now it has fully dried, it will be ready to take the 6mm , the hair spray is definitely new to me and I feel that I will get some strange looks when that is on my shopping list.  Best wishes one and all. Kevin 



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How about this.
But what is the grass ?
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Toy fur?
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Hi Martin. Thank you for your reply. It does look convincing, I am doing a scenic break with grass at the foot of it and if I am careful? weedy outcrops, with some more grass on top. It is all imaginary so anything is possible. Scenery is new to me, I just like playing trains 🚞. Best wishes Kevin 



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Kevin, any help I can give is a bonus. It's why I join these things.
Oddly playing trains is the last thing I bother with, although I always enjoyed shunting puzzles. Indeed my friend and I would set each other puzzles when in French lessons at school and solve them in our Rough books, rather than write endless stupid mucky sounding French verbs!
To me, model railways are just a very good excuse for scenery.

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Hi Martin. Didn’t I say, somewhere, that is all I have been doing after returning to Model Railways after a break of forty odd years doing other stuff. My passion has become Shunting Puzzles? With so many advances in the hobby,I wanted to get some practice in, with DCC wiring and point control. But now I am building a fiddle yard for a bit of fun on the other side of the scenic break .    Best wishes Kevin 



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Mr.Tin wrote: Toy fur?
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Fake Wolf fur.
The wolf didn't like it however  :lol:



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Who the Hell wants to wear, even fake wolf fur? That's like wearing Husky! Of course on a model as long as it's fake something, who cares? Looks convincing and doesn't shine like Waterman's nonsense.

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Hi Martin.  Thank you. Fake fur/ fake grass it’s all the same to me? But someone like herr Warterman with his crowd of followers and operatives doesn’t have much to do anyway, and with public appearances . But for me. Anything that shines on a model railway, doesn’t look good. Having said that until I learn the intricacies of weathering techniques, all my Locos and rolling stock will remain shiny, with that RTR 👀  look.  Best wishes Kevin 



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Mr.Tin wrote: Who the Hell wants to wear, even fake wolf fur? That's like wearing Husky! Of course on a model as long as it's fake something, who cares? Looks convincing and doesn't shine like Waterman's nonsense.

Martin

You'd be surprised  :lol: No not me thank you very much.
It didn't come like that.
I trimmed it a lot & then washed it in a bucket of really thinned out grass colour emulsion paint.
Squeezed it out, laid it out to dry & then cut it to whatever shape was needed.

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Hi Martin.  This is a very interesting feature of on a layout and would bring life to any scene ,but, with my Shunting Puzzle and now my fiddleyard, being crowded onto two four foot by fourteen inch boards, it would take a lot of imagination to fit in. If only I had enough space and the skill, and I had thought of it first, I would fill my boots.Best wishes  Kevin 



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Kevin, you're so right, nothing, but your locos and carriage stock should shine on a model railway. Maybe cars and of course wet stuff, but road vehicles should be weathered too.
But only slightly! Most weathering is overdone, I think. Just because you can doesn't mean you should!
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Tony, your fake wolf fur does look very impressive. I think the emulsion might have done the trick of dulling it down.

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Mr.Tin wrote: Tony, your fake wolf fur does look very impressive. I think the emulsion might have done the trick of dulling it down.

Martin

I couldn't have used it as it came.
Far to shiny & the colour was all wrong.

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