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 Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 07:38 pm
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I have always had a fascination with the Helston Branch so I have decided to try and re-create Truthall Halt as my diorama. I have a stack of 4ft x 2ft boards so I think I can get everything onto one of these. It should give me plenty of things to have a go at, from track and ballasting to the construction of the station and the overbridge. Hopefully as it is fairly compact I should be able to complete it in the required timescale.

I am about to go and start rooting around in my garage to see what I have already and what I will need to buy...

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 Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 07:50 pm
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That a great diorama project Chris

A small station halt like that would probably never be modelled as a full layout but as a diorama its perfect look forward to your progress


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On the "off" chance you don't have this link:

http://www.helstonrailway.co.uk/html/truthall_halt.html

But mainly for other members who might find it interesting to see some past and present photos of your "site"

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 Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 11:23 am
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Good luck with it Chris, it looks a little beauty. :D

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 Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 12:32 pm
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I too plan on doing a GWR halt or platform with a pagoda hut but in N scale. It will be great to compare.

Does the Helston hut have wooden or tin walls, I can't quite tell from the picture.



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To help Chris and possibly answer Marty's question does anybody have access to a copy of Backtrack magazine Number 5 November/December 1989?

There is a listing of an article on the station premises. It might be just a small article but on the other hand it might provide some much useful information.

From looking at enlarged images at the site mentioned in my early post I would say that it was metal walls though.

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Marty,

The Pagoda at Truthall is tin. In OO I am going to use the Wills kit. I really need to add windows but I will have to see how I am getting on for time.

Bryan,

I have the Backtrack magazine here somewhere in the garage. I had forgotten about that so I will dig it out later.

Dapol having just announced that they are to do the Class 22 Baby Warship is excellent news for my diorama, although it will have to wait about 18 months before it becomes available...

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Is the Wills kit wide enough?

What about modifying the new Bachmann Scenecraft Pagoda Shed that at least has windows?

If a might expensive compared to the Wills kit. Providing of course that it is released in time. :wink:

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Providing of course that it is released in time

Bryan, that will be the biggest problem with the Bachmann one...

It will probably be a bit narrow but I will see how it all looks as it comes together.

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I have no idea how Rod Stewart managed to build his layout, tour, and look after his young children at the same time!

I have managed to get started today as shown below. The images are all on my fotopic website which automatically adds the copyright text...



My 4ft x 2ft chipboard with frame and painted green to prime the board. While looking at this first stage I have to point out my OTT-LITE. The clear light they give is excellent and I do not know how I did without it.



My next stage is to cover the board in Woodland Scenics track underlay. I prefer this to cork as it is not only cheaper but so easy to work with. It gives a great base for the scenery later and can easily take fence poles etc without needing any drilling. I glued these sheets to the chipboard with PVA. At this stage I marvel at how long simple things actually take! This should have been a two minute job, but actually took about 40 minutes. First, time to find where I left the PVA, then time to find something other than my wife's kitchen skewer to clear the bunged up nozzle of dried glue. Eventually give up and use the skewer anyway, but then time required to deal with the recriminations and required reparations when I am caught red-handed by my wife using said skewer...



Having given the glue time to set I have now laid out the station platform face, track and road bridge sides temporarily to see how it will look and plan the next stage. More on this tomorrow, little Trystan is now wailing for another feed...

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good start Chris your on your way now.
Now you have a baseboard it makes it feel as if you are getting somewhere plus you can then choose various bits to work on from that point.

Im always getting caught pinching my missus stuff
I got caught with her clear nail varnish last week i was using it to fix a etched nameplate and made the fatal mistake of not putting it back before she noticed :lol: :lol: :lol:

cheers Brian.W

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Have all your pictures been taken using the OTT Lite Chris?



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Just a thought...if you added cassettes either end it could be a nice little micro-layout! Seeing as how you've layed a sound-deadening substrate,you might as well run trains on it.
I came across the Helston boys while on holiday in Cornwall,and its great that they've brought back a line from"beyond the grave"! They were at a steam traction rally at St.Agnes,where we had a good long natter about what they were trying to do.
Several days later,I met them again at a model railway exhibition in Hayle,where I literally"bought the t-shirt".
It was a very attractive and unique little branch-line,and its just a shame they can't get it all back,but what they have acheived is outstanding.
Good luck with this tribute diarama!!!

Cheers,John(georgejacksongenius)

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Bob,

The OTT-LITE is only good for working under. In fact it is great for working under! It is difficult to explain in text but it gives a "pure" light that is so easy on the eyes and makes working in small details very easy. The light it gives does not really help the photo though - that was all the flash from the camera.

John,

I am hoping that one day, eventually, dreckly, it will become part of a larger layout featuring most of the Helston Branch...



Another view of the layout with the platform and road bridge sides temporarily in place. The platform sides are Peco Concrete type. I could not find anything suitable for the wooden sided original so I thought I would use the concrete type and score the sleepers in using a craft knife. After I had scored a few I thought it looked totally rubbish but continued and once finished it actually looks surprisingly convincing. It will of course need to be painted in sleeper colour and weathered.

The road bridge sides are Peco as well and I am not really sure how I am going to build the middle bit. I know the theory and I have the matching Peco stone walls for the inserts but I have never built a bridge from scratch like this before.

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I would have thought Slaters plasticard will have textured finishes that will help with the bridge the road surface something like a rendered stone may help because its thin it will go round the radius. for the road

On the inner tunnel part a good look at slaters plasticard again may reveal a good suitable stone texture.

The Wills builder card is a lot thicker which would not bend so easily unless you warmed it.
But you could perhaps use it in the straight parts of the tunnel if needed.
Other members may have better ideas.

cheers Brian.W

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Thanks Brian,

I am not keen on the plastikard sheets unless it is for flat things as I am hopeless and bending them properly.

I have progressed since then: -



I have made up the bridge with the Peco walling in between and a piece of the Woodland Scenics track underlay as the road surface. Obviously this will need to be weathered and coloured accordingly. I am finding this track underlay so versatile! A couple of slits with the craft knife and all done, wonderfully flexible and yet firm enough to take whatever you need to do to it.

I have also cut strips to actually form the track bed and to raise the platform to the same height as the track. I used some more of the underlay to build the platform up but was not happy with the surface and so have now covered this with Peco platform surfaces that I have pinched from my Penzance platforms. This will be coloured and weathered in time.

The Wills pagoda hut has been built and added as well. Probably the fastest kit I have ever built - it took me longer to open the packet than it took to build it.

The Class 22 Diesel and B-Set coach are what I have been using to check clearances.



A closer view of the station and bridge. You can just about make out my attempt to make the concrete look like wooden sleepers but it will need painting to really bring this out.



A closer view of the bridge.



Another view of the bridge and station.

I will start building up the embankments today hopefully

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Thanks Brian,

I am not keen on the plastikard sheets unless it is for flat things as I am hopeless and bending them properly.

I have progressed since then: -



I have made up the bridge with the Peco walling in between and a piece of the Woodland Scenics track underlay as the road surface. Obviously this will need to be weathered and coloured accordingly. I am finding this track underlay so versatile! A couple of slits with the craft knife and all done, wonderfully flexible and yet firm enough to take whatever you need to do to it.

I have also cut strips to actually form the track bed and to raise the platform to the same height as the track. I used some more of the underlay to build the platform up but was not happy with the surface and so have now covered this with Peco platform surfaces that I have pinched from my Penzance platforms. This will be coloured and weathered in time.

The Wills pagoda hut has been built and added as well. Probably the fastest kit I have ever built - it took me longer to open the packet than it took to build it.

The Class 22 Diesel and B-Set coach are what I have been using to check clearances.



A closer view of the station and bridge. You can just about make out my attempt to make the concrete look like wooden sleepers but it will need painting to really bring this out.



A closer view of the bridge.



Another view of the bridge and station.

I will start building up the embankments today hopefully

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Thanks Brian,

I am not keen on the plastikard sheets unless it is for flat things as I am hopeless and bending them properly.

I have progressed since then: -



I have made up the bridge with the Peco walling in between and a piece of the Woodland Scenics track underlay as the road surface. Obviously this will need to be weathered and coloured accordingly. I am finding this track underlay so versatile! A couple of slits with the craft knife and all done, wonderfully flexible and yet firm enough to take whatever you need to do to it.

I have also cut strips to actually form the track bed and to raise the platform to the same height as the track. I used some more of the underlay to build the platform up but was not happy with the surface and so have now covered this with Peco platform surfaces that I have pinched from my Penzance platforms. This will be coloured and weathered in time.

The Wills pagoda hut has been built and added as well. Probably the fastest kit I have ever built - it took me longer to open the packet than it took to build it.

The Class 22 Diesel and B-Set coach are what I have been using to check clearances.

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Sorry, I got an error when I posted the last message and so I tried again with a smaller message and got the same error. Once logged out and back in again I now see that it has posted both messages with no problem! I have no idea how to delete the second shorter message?

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I think Bob might be able to fix the multiple postings. There's been a bit of that going around today :)

Good progress Chris. I too am a fan of track underlay for roads. The pagoda hut seems a pretty good match. I'm looking forward to seeing a closer view of the platform.
It's fun to follow the progress of an actual scene being modelled.

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