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Petermac wrote: John has beaten me to it Brian - I too was about to comment on the rate you go through these jobs.  One minute, you're waiting for the Navvies, the next, you have trains running ......... !

An interesting mix you're using. I've often used 50:50 but reducing it to 25% PVA is bold - or maybe not ..............  Also, that's quite a lot of IPA/meths in the mix ............... :roll:

Without checking, I can't remember the area you have there - it looks ideal for trains like the Blue Pullman .......... :thumbs

That mix was discussed and recommended on the dcc concepts forum one of the main reasons for going down to 25% is the 50% mix comes from many many years ago back then glue was not as sophisticated as it is now so therefore you dont need as much. Its a lot of IPA/meths but it flows really well having used the old method in the past i have found this way much better.

My usable baseboard area is 28 ft x 13 ft Peter which allows me to have nice bigger radius curves something i personally like on a layout.

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Thanks Brian - that is a really useful description of how you do the ballasting - I will give it a go.  I'm afraid I may be one of those who makes a pig's ear of it, so I will practise a bit before I crack on.

Going back to your point rodding - I noticed the use of ground levers on the DCC Concepts forum.  I'm modelling the mid 60s, do you know if points were controlled by the signal box, or by ground levers - or both?  Especially in goods yards and sidings? I've googled, but haven't found much information.  I don't mean to hijack your thread, just wondered if you know....

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Hi Michael
Re the rodding nearly all mainline points/turnouts were controlled by signal box point rodding i have no doubt in very remote places where there is or was a branch point on the mainline there would have been a locked lever frame.
Many sidings even today have lever frames which are operated by either a yard master or fireman or driver themselves the only ones controlled by the signal box/signalman would be the ones entering/leaving the main.

Re the time period if you want to be accurate you would have to research where you are modelling for example here in Cornwall on the mainline London Paddington Point rodding and semaphore signals are still in use so is exactly the same as when it was installed donkeys years ago there are areas here where they have upgraded to point motors and aspect light signalling.I have a friend who recently retired as a signalman at Truro i have been in that box and its like stepping back in time with all the levers and the rag on the lever to be operated and bells ring your mind would expect a county class steamer to go by but its a HST.
So i think you will find all over the country there are still going to be mixtures of old and new and in the 60`s there would have been more of the old.
Always bear in mind Rule 1 its your railway so you do whatever you want i know i certainly stick to that rule.

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Thanks Brian, very helpful!

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Here is a prime example of being a Twat
When i laid these 3 points/turnouts in the piccy below they were really about the last bit of track i laid at this time i think i was beginning to have enough of trackwork, although i did not have to use them i installed the 3 above baseboard point motors. Now i am really not happy with them so now i am going to have to convert 3 fulgurex point motors underneath to make it look right luckily i have drilled holes in the baseboard before for the pins to operate through. This is a prime example of dont cut corners just because your getting the hump.



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Hi Brian.    It still looks good though, much better than having planks / modules . I keep changing my plans and don’t get anywhere, except the model shop, to purchase more track etc etc. Now I am faffing around with the scenic break again. Meantime I keep reviewing models on YouTube, but I mustn’t take too much notice of what they are saying. Best wishes Kevin 



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Oh we have all been there Brian!  I've got to change a nicely fitted point and motor because I've decided to change the track plan - despite spending months planning how things were going to be....  But it will be worth the effort in making the changes - well that's what I tell myself!

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Thanks chaps

Im more annoyed at myself for cutting a corner at least there is no real cost as i already have everything i need to fix it.

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I thought i would do a post as posts seem a bit thin on the ground at the moment.
Nothing exciting just a piccy showing ballasting completed in all platform areas of course there is some detail and weathering to do there yet.




I have begun to put the basework wood into the far corner area this will change over to rock and embankment rather than retaining wall at the farthest point i am considering building a roadbridge across the tracks.
And its Eds fault im even contemplating  a little 009 railway somewhere now as i have most of the bits.




Bit boring but at least something to look at

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Briperran wrote: I thought i would do a post as posts seem a bit thin on the ground at the moment.
Nothing exciting just a piccy showing ballasting completed in all platform areas of course there is some detail and weathering to do there yet.




I have begun to put the basework wood into the far corner area this will change over to rock and embankment rather than retaining wall at the farthest point i am considering building a roadbridge across the tracks.
And its Eds fault im even contemplating  a little 009 railway somewhere now as i have most of the bits.




Bit boring but at least something to look at

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Hi Brian. Speaking of rock? In my first real attempt at scenery, I have been considering cork bark, and I have just heard about concealed nasties lurking in the bark Mould and all sorts of stuff. I must admit that it was on you tube and if the info is correct one really has to be careful when handling the stuff. Best wishes Kevin 



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Thanks for the post, Brian - not boring at all.  But you are right, updates are thin on the ground.  Your ballasting is super and I am very envious of those gorgeous long platforms.  I suspect we will be seeing some long trains running!  Are you happy with the DCC Concepts ballast?  I must say the photo looking down the line looks great.

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Hi Michael
Re the cork bark yes you do get warnings about nasties lurking in it but here is an easy solution to that and im sure you have the equipment to execute the remedy. If you go into the kitchen when the wife is not there (in order to avoid the frying pan on the head job)there is a marvelous device called a microwave put your bark in there 30 second burst a few times will exterminate all the nasties.

Actually my rockwork i dont reinvent the wheel there as im in Cornwall and i do use cornish hedgestone sometimes in my work i will go out to a pile i have in my work bits storage area and pick a few bits to use LOL.

Re the DCC concepts ballast yes i am very pleased with it and teamed with that mix i make up it lays really well the mix flows really well and i have not had any floating occur at all which was often a problem with the old style mix.

I am actually going to experiment to see if this mix can be used on other scenic stuff.
As the deluxe materials and woodland scenic glues are quite expensive if you are going to need to buy quite a lot of it.

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Those superb looonnnngggg platforms are stunning Brian and I really like the configuration of the central bays. :thumbs

What is the retaining wall - Scalescenes ?  Looks great the way you've done the access ramps in the middle.

What is Cornish "Hedgestone" ?



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Petermac wrote: Those superb looonnnngggg platforms are stunning Brian and I really like the configuration of the central bays. :thumbs

What is the retaining wall - Scalescenes ?  Looks great the way you've done the access ramps in the middle.

What is Cornish "Hedgestone" ?
Hi Peter the central bays platforms are for my end to end shuttles i will be running.
The retaining walls are all wood based first then Metcalfe builder sheets glued to the wood the support pillars are wood covered with Metcalfe sheet the tops are cut from metcalfe pavers stuck to at thicker card.
All the walls have had a black watercolour wash.

Cornish hedgestone is a locally sourced stone/slate which has been used for centuries to build buildings and build walls which are called a Cornish hedge.heres an example piccy.



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Thanks Brian.

Your "hedgestone" walling looks good.  You said you were going to use it on the layout - is it fairly light ?

I suppose you can't beat using the real stuff when modelling stone.  At least no-one will be able to say "your stone walling isn't very realistic" ........... :lol:



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Ooh! That hedgestone looks beautiful - the Cornish know a thing or two about building....

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Petermac wrote: Thanks Brian.

Your "hedgestone" walling looks good.  You said you were going to use it on the layout - is it fairly light ?

I suppose you can't beat using the real stuff when modelling stone.  At least no-one will be able to say "your stone walling isn't very realistic" ........... :lol:
  The weight does not matter Peter this is not a portable layout the next time it would get moved is when they remove my dead corpse and the wife orders the skip to get rid of this railway rubbish LOL

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Started doing a bit of rough ground between ballasted areas on the trackwork first piccy shows bare rough ground
uninhabited by any form of green stuff second shows with green stuff applied







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Hi Brian.  Very good indeed, the signal operator hasn’t got far to walk . Best wishes Kevin 



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Steam engines and diesels are a pain they are mucking up my brand new ballast :shock:







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