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 Posted: Thu Oct 4th, 2018 06:20 pm
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Well after a 3 year break i have now been able to begin the new layout in our new home i have the upstairs of the bungalow as my man cave layout room.
I am not someone who tries to create a layout specifically on a certain date or place i just do what i like i suppose by default i tend to aim to the time when i was a young child and really i tend to aim to the early to mid 1960`s but there are always variations on that.
I initially gutted the whole upstairs and took out everything that was built up there back to the rafters, I then insulated it all and ply lined the whole thing.
I then created the baseboards i wanted i choose a height of about 29 inches to top of board which was enough to get under to do work and did not loose to much usable space due to roof pitch i have ended up with a usable area at baseboard height around 28 x 13.5 feet.
Here are some piccys of the baseboards installed the first 2 are from either end of the area.





The next ones go in a clockwise direction from the right side of the last picture


























This is my man cave stairway entrance



As you can see i have avoided any duckunders i have lots of scope and will post a bit more tomorrow

Im happy to take criticism i promise i wont cry

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Hi Brian,

Absolutely no criticism, as my layout build in currently slow as I clear space for the railway, but avoiding parrot jokes, is that a stuffed cat supervising the build?

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Hi Bill its actually furry outside cat with a terracotta innards giving it its shape. Alas poor puss is no more i bashed it with something a couple of weeks ago and it went flying down the stairs and poor puss was flattened when all its innards got smashed i respectfully put it in a dustbin bag before the missus noticed :lol:  



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Looking good so far,looks as if going to be a great layout.Piran

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Hi Piran yes is could be a great layout the only trouble is its me building it :lol:

Ok another installment im not far away from where i actually am now .

Ok over the years i have used and tried various things between baseboard wood and track areas i have used cork, foam, The bachmann track underlay which are fine but then some years back i discovered fibre laminate flooring underlay. I found it by far the best for noise suppression easy to fix to including scenic glues and the big bonus its as cheap as chips. its in 5mm thick sheets about 760mm x about 560mm and you get 15 sheets per pack you can get it at B & Q about £17 a pack but screwfix sell the same pack around £14 (Note B & Q and Screwfix are owned by the same people so both sell a number of the same products but at screwfix the same things are cheaper)
Anyway i affix the sheets to the actual baseboard using a staple gun and sometimes panel pins you could glue it with pva if you wanted to.heres a couple of piccys





As you can see i just basically cover the whole area with it.

I then started on wiring first i installed the main bus under the whole layout and also a points bus under the whole layout i started with my pile of wire



I am now Tracklaying something i do have a problem with i do get carried away and lay far to much so i have constantly stop myself going to mad i am trying hard but i have to admit i have already added more than i originally intended.
I will shortly post some pics but at the moment its like a bombsite and not suitable for taking photos :lol:



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I love the baseboards Brian - some really interesting angles in there.  I'm glad I'm not the only one who seems to work in a bombsite!  I'm forever having a tidy up, only for the bombs to return.

Looking forward to seeing the track develop

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Thanks Michael the baseboards that i have done have given me lots of options i have always liked long big radius curves that vary on model railways with the space available to me im a able to do that.
As i mentioned before i freely admit i have a tracklaying problem i get carried away and can lay to much so i have temper myself i really need to join tracklayers anonymous  :lol: . Max does not help he goads me on to lay more.

Yes i am a messy so and so im one of these people that just cracks into things and gets quite a lot done but disregard the debris i am creating until i suddenly realise or dear i better clean this up a bit.



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Hi Brian. Good to see a new layout on the go. Be careful with that green underlay stuff. I used it on a mini layout some time ago and found that it warps and distorts badly when painted. You might do some test runs on some spare bits to see how it performs when ballast and scenery is added.

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I too have used the green stuff on my layout - 25 X 16  - and no problems with warping after painting.

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Hi Bob
I wont be painting it anyway it will only have  pva when attaching scenic materials i used it before in the shed environment which has vastly different temperature changes and in the winter months is very damp air there was never any problem in there with it.
As Derek has said he has painted his   without a problem i can only assume when you painted yours as it was only painted the one side the paint you actually used had shrinkage and therefore would warped something like a fibreboard



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Good to see the T&P will rise again Brian. All the best as you rebuild your empire.



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Ok some piccys of progress all tracklaying complete except for a few sidings and my cassette loading track.
All main bus wiring complete 128 feedbacks including all track and turnouts all pieces of flexitrack have separate feeders.

The first image is my Itrain switchboard i am doing its not complete yet but it is good to refer to when looking at the photos obviously these schematic drawings are not to scale and and dont relate to the size of the layout but you can see what tracks are what.



The first image starts at the top left corner looking right and then they go in a clockwise direction.

First one looks at the approach tracks to main station area.



this is the station area there will be 10 platforms the long main ones will be around 9 feet long there will be a small station goods yard on the inside



a bit further on near to exit tracks

Exit tracks and to the right Diesel mpd area




closer to mpd aea



first curve after station



a few line connect turnouts



Next curve bottom right corner there will be a station track added on the outside end to end track turnout is ready there



this shows a few turnouts and what will be carraige shed sidings




this shows carraige shed sidings and aproach to goods yards



This will be the goods yard



This shows the aproach tracks to the goods yard

this area the left track is an end to end track the next 2 are loop tracks the inner one is an end to end plus doubles up as a headshunt for goods yard



further along from the last a number of turnouts for goods access plus a turnout for goods yard engine shed.



Another end to end station to the left and curve bottom left on schematic



bottom left curve



coming out of curve few turnouts



closer to turnouts crossover



aproach to top right curve shows west entry to steam MPD



around top right curve shows inner tracks to steam mpd



this shows turnouts in MPD area



this shows how it splits up in mpd area

This shows main steam shed with pits in front with turntable in and out tracks to right.



This shows turntable there will be sheds on the end of the tracks off it

A general photo of steam shed area with station area in distance



Hope this all makes sense and its not to boring any questions please feel free to ask

Brian



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Brian, I guess your layout name is Cornish? what does it translate into into English please? :pedal



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Wow Brian - that is serious progress!  The track looks really interesting, I think those trains will look super running around the route options.  

Is that a Hornby turntable?  Have you converted it to DCC?  If you have, a guide would be helpful.  I want to put a TT in my layout, just to turn a loco 180 degrees, so don't want to spend a fortune.... 

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Making great progress there. 

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https://opendomesday.org/place/SW7554/tywarnhayle/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perranzabuloe

Google translator has no option for translation from Cornish.  :shock:



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Tywarnhayle -house on the estuary in English. Name of a local pub in Perranporth.

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Ron  Tywarnhayle is an area in Perranporth basically on a hill/slope on the west side of Perranporth village as Derek says house on the estuary is near.to the Cornish translation  I just use the name for the layout as before i lived in Tywarnhayle rd i now live in lower Tywarnhayle rd.I like Max`s link to the Doomsday book for Tywarnhayle which existed then and we had 10 slaves according to that i could do with some of them i wonder where they are now LOL.

Perranzabuloe is really an area in and around Perranporth its used as the parish council name.

Michael im afraid it is not a Hornby turntable it is a Fleischman 6125 which unfortunately is not cheap but is DCC ready so to speak bearing in mind you still have to buy electronics to tie it into your system if you want to run it with computer control software.

I also have a Heljan turntable which i had previous to this one which is a DC one but i know its possible to convert to dcc but i know at the time i was not convinced it would what i wanted hence the Fleishmann . I Know John Dew did persevere with a Heljan for a long time but threw the towel in and bought a Fleishmann.

To be fair if you only want it as a turnaround and not computer controlled you could convert a hornby or Heljan with just a simple decoder to control it.

I do need to do some testing now as there are bound to be a few errors then i must commence the turnout wiring.
Then my next new addition fully automated signalling.

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Thats stunning Brian........I am amazed how quickly you work.........bit disappointed you havent got the point rodding in yet. :lol:

Seriously it looks a really interesting well thought out layout. I do wish I had followed your example and steadily built the entire layout before thinking about ballast and scenery....would have saved a load of heartache.

Really looking forward to the automated sidings.

A couple of comments on turntables. I do agree with your summary. The Heljan does have some advantages....its less expensive and quieter but it was prone to lose its memory and finish up at the wrong track or even missing it completely. Reprogramming particularly with a lot of tracks is very time consuming. And the final nail for me was its reluctance to talk to the RR&Co computor! 4 years wasted!

Fleischman is a tad noisy but ultra reliable. Its an absolute joy to operate. It has occasionally lost its memory ie physical position out of sync with the control unit but it takes a matter of seconds to correct. In terms of RR&Co...they are joined at the hip. I often operate manually with the computor switched off......when I do switch RR&Co on the turntable immediatey moves to reflect the position on the screen....amazing.....got quite a shock the first time it happened.

Michael I was just about to post on your thread about the warehouse....

Finally Brian.......I suspect you showed that turntable shot just to check that I was paying attention ? :lol: :lol:   I know you are going to add some more stub tracks.

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Hi Brian.   Thats a “ Proper Job “ when you build a model railway, you don’t mess about. If I tried something like that, not as though I would have the space, I don’t think that I would see the end of it. Best wishes Kevin 



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