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 Posted: Mon May 7th, 2018 08:52 am
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Hi all.   To add a bit of interest to one of my Shunting Puzzles ( even a lot of interest?? ) I have been considering a scenic break, and a tunnel portal , (it will remain a Shunting Puzzle ,  but have the advantage of a becoming a small layout ?) leading to a Sector Plate . But why is it that the products that are available in 4 mm Gauge seem to be so big? Are they true to life? Only from what I have read , in particular , about the Hastings line, the tunnels were poorly built and had to be lined with more bricks, making them much narrower. My plan is to paint the “ End Board “ , but , now i’m uncertain on the size of the tunnel portal.    Best wishes. Kevin



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If you are painting the tunnel portal Kevin, then just outline it in pencil first. You can scale it up or down, widen or narrow it, rub it out and change it until your happy with the size of it before you ever start painting it on

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Hi Matt   Thank you for your reply. But do manufacturers make them too big  ? Did you see my “ Upside down/ Sideways photo?” , I cannot seem to get it correct .  It must be the Neanderthal effect. Best wishes. Kevin



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Is this the way it's supposed to be, Kevin?




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Hi Max.  Thank you very much, I don’t know how you managed it, but, you worked it out, and it is exactly correct.  Best wishes. Kevin



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Hi Kevin

I went into Faststone ( a free photo editing download ), hit Edit and Rotate Right.  Then Save.

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Here's the one you emailed me . . .




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Hi Max.  Thank you very much, I must get my laptop working, l know how to rotate images on that.Best wishes. Kevin



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Hi Kevin as I explained before the Apple Ipad software doesn't rotate an Image when it saves it, It writes the orientation of the photo into the exif file. Apple did this (they say) becouse it speeds up photo taking on the tablet. Unfortunately Windows doesn't read this so displays the Image as it was taken, so if the camera lense is upside down or sideways when you take a photo, thats how windows displays it.

If you look at the last two photos you uploaded into your gallery you will see that one is upside down and one is on its side

The solutions

1 Transfer photos to a windows machine, rotate and upload (as Max did )

2 rotate on your Ipad and then upload (A right pain in the postarity) This can be done, with free software, that Martin recomends on the forum, but you have to go and download the Apple version as the online version is windows only. The apple version takes 4 or 5 not very intuitive steps to do (If anyone wants me to I can post up a step by step sometime)

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3 Make sure when you take a picture with your Ipad you have it the right way up (think of your old style camera.. you know if you hold that upside down or on it's side your photo will come out the same)

How to do this ?  I THINK the correct orientation for you Ipad is to hold it with the volume buttons at the bottom, I'm not home at the moment so cant check mine so try this

Hold your Ipad with the volume buttons at the bottom and take a picture, now upload it to the gallery, go look in the gallery and see if its the right way up.
    If its upside down turn your Ipad through 180 degrees with volume buttons at the top and take another picture, upload and check in the gallery. Whichever Photo is the right way up. . ALWAYS hold your Ipad that way up when taking photos to upload and you should be ok
DONT turn your ipad on it's side (portrait) as thats how it will upload

Try this and see if it works

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Hi Matt.  Thank you. My “Laptop” did windows 8 , and I had no problems. Then some bright spark suggested that Windows 10 was much better and I followed his advice. But, I couldn’t get to understand it, that’s when another bright spark said buy an iPad. Shortly thereafter ? I couldn’t get the Laptop to work ( something to do with WiFi) the annoying thing I was.using the Ethernet so obviously was not dependant on WiFi , but by then according to John Lewis , they were not obliged to fix it as the guarantee had expired. Then one of the bright sparks paid me a visit, and got the Laptop working. Trouble is I don’t know what he did to it.Best wishes Kevin 



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Hi Kevin,

Tunnel portals - blame Brunel and those broad gauge monsters with chimney heights to match (you can thank Dean for that one). Most tunnels in reality matched the ruling gauge, and were quite a tight fit. Double tracked tunnels are taller because circles are better than ellipses in carrying loads. Large bores however are expensive, there are plenty of examples where 2 single track bores were used instead of one large double track bore. Narrow steam engine tunnels are one of the reasons the SR carried on with a third rail through the Alps and down to the coast  instead of using catenary power (which would have enabled higher speeds).

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Hi Nigel.   Thank you for your reply. Speaking of the Southern , there is a really smart “ twin tunnel “ under Shakespeare Cliff near Dover , but that is only suitable for mainline working. I have found some tunnel photos online.As I’m not an expert painter I have been considering “ off the shelf portals “ although they are quite expensive for what they are, a piece of plastic . and generally much too big for my liking. May be Scratch-building is the answer? Personally speaking most of the tunnels I went through, when I was working were “Cut and Cover “ .
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This might help....

http://www.elginmodelrailwayclub.co.uk/2010/articles/advice/standard-railway-modelling-dimmensions.html

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Hi Doug.  Thank you for your reply. I will study it and see what I come up with.   Best wishes. Kevin



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Hi Max.  Thank you for your help in uploading my photos and the correct way up to boot. My next step will be to get my finger out and apply sleeper grime, rusty rail paint, paint both the back and end boards, maybe even add some buildings, oh I mustn’t forget the ballast and ground cover. Best wishes. Kevin



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