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 Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2018 01:27 pm
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Hi All,
I have probably been conspicuous by my absence with a layout photo. We have recently moved to Ocean Grove on the Bellarine Peninsula southwest of Melbourne and the layout had to be readied for transport down here and so was stripped of buildings, trees and anything else that could get damaged.

While the layout has been in a stripped down state, I am using the opportunity to get to parts which needed a more careful eye that caused a little trouble at the back that I could reach but could not see properly. I did start as a project last year (before the move was even contemplated) replacing the curves on the layout with set track curves in a compound radius (nothing below 2nd radius curves) as well as playing around with superelevation of those curves. Hence the curves are not ballasted yet!

Although I operate with 3 controllers and blocks, I have only got one inertia throttle in place and using it for testing, redecorating the hill with earth tones ( raw and burnt umber, sienna, black and yellow ochre applied in washes) as well as a few newer buildings and better platforms etc

Here is the main station which is actually a Pola kit from many years ago minus its base sitting on the new ground level platform. The Pola building is replacing the Atlas building that was there which will be relegated to the intermediate station(s) on the main line! I completed it tonight and have also lit it with LED's inside recycled from those within the old Atlas building. The glazing was done with PVA rather than the supplied acetate.






The platform itself is foam core but it is layered with a very thin foam sheet that the foam core comes packed with that looks like asphalt gotten for free from the picture framers as they cannot recycle it in any way shape or form! A coat of concrete grey and one platform - actually two because I did the same thing with the other one!

This pic is showing the basic hill with the first washes applied.  It now looks darker but will update that shortly!


Hope you like the views and I will keep this updated!

Regards,

Trevor
 

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 Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2018 03:38 pm
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Nice trick on the platform, I'll have to keep that in mind for myself. Also, great job on the snow, winter layouts like this look really neat!



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Last night I finished wiring up the Turntable roads. I had a rotary switch that was wrecked in the move here so it needed replacement which was done yesterday.  The old rotary could rotate 360 degrees where the new one stops at 1 and 12 i.e. 330 degrees of travel.   
I have set it up so that the roads on the turntable equals the clock position e.g 1 road is at 1 o'clock on the rotary switch, 2 road is at 2 o'clock and so on. The knob on the control panel will have a pointer so it is easy to equate as it was back in our old house.

I have also used some of that scrap foam sheet to build up the track base so that unlike in the old house, there will be "over runs" available for each of the turntable roads protected by some form of track bumper - buffer stop to our British and European modelling cousins with a short length of track. 

Brendan, that hill is not snow covered and it will have vegetation when I am happier about the ground colour and texture. The colour of the ground by the loco is simply the ground tones I used as a base - this white bits under the tracks are the scrap foam pieces used to make the super-elevated curves of about .020" or so but on the 4 x 8 it seems enough!  

The painted hills in the background are snow capped similar to the New Zealand Alps in summer ... I have not seen Canada in the summer apart from pictures and I guess that some aspects are going to reflect my Australian heritage, such as the hill which reminds me of Broken Hill in New South Wales and the hillock to the south of the main railway station which as part of my work over 40 years ago, I went through quite often on the train!

Anyway here are a few shots taken tonight...



You can get more of an idea of what the hill will look like from this shot



The built up surface ready for painting and track laying and ballasting.



Coming from the East End Yard (Ridgehaven) onto the main line... or at least that is what it will be when I get back to operating in my normal mode. This scene would look lot busier with Passenger cars stored on the sidings to the left, two signal bridges and a few lineside huts and it will do again... relatively soon...

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 Posted: Fri Apr 13th, 2018 06:03 am
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Friday... the 13th even!!!
What a difference the day or two and the installation of a few structures makes!

I have been glazing the up till now open windows with PVA glue and installing some buildings in what will be their (for the time being) final placement. I am going to put in a new version (of which I have a kit to be done) of the signal tower and also the intermediate station (which I don't have a kit yet... yet) relocated from the end station(s).

I am as yet not quite decided what to use for the soil and dirt colours on top of the hills and the areas not becoming a rail yard so perhaps any of our Canadian members could make a suggestion or two!

Anyway here todays photos are... and I can do some stuff tonight as well!



The signal bridges add to the dramatic effect. They are minus signal heads for now but they will be added in the fullness of time!



The same pose from the aerial perspective



The view from the drivers position for the main throttle. Where the wide nose CN unit is sitting in the loco area, there was a single unit engine shed in the area. I am contemplating making a new loco depot to cover at least 2 or 3 roads as a servicing point undercover.



The "Intermediate" station(s) with the ex end station building "transplanted" but a newer building will replace this one, sans the moulded base! The platform is the same construction technique as the main station but longer than the previous sand and balsa edged platform, barely longer than a single passenger car.  The hut now has a glazed window courtesy of the ever reliable PVA...

More later and hope you are liking the views!

Regards from Oz

Trevor

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 Posted: Mon Apr 16th, 2018 01:10 am
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The weekend was a fairly productive one... just not quite so much on the railway front! Oh Well!
I had ordered a bunch of 20 trees on Ebay which I installed on the weekend so I ordered another of the same group plus some firs as well as some generic tree armatures so the layout will be well "treed" as it gets closer to "finishing" ... famous last words!!!

Here is the result of the tree planting on the hill...



You can also see the turntable overrun tracks which I will put in track stops of one kind or another. I had a very crude road bridge over this area that wound its way into the station, hence the gaps in the track stop areas until I work out the location of the bridge. One of the support piers wound up in the middle of track 10's overrun so that may indeed become shorter.

The next view is beyond the turntable showing yet another test train hauled by a CP GP9 with two USRA pattern 0-8-0's waiting their turn of duty! 



I deliberately picked the FP7 and the two 0-8-0's (out of my fleet of 20 locos on this layout) for test trains as they are the least forgiving locos of faults in the track work that I have. I have made sure that derailments are at an absolute minimum and I have tested trains in multiple directions, both pushing and pulling consists. 

Having said that, I had many sessions on my own in the previous location where there were often no derailments or those which did occur were of human error... do you think that worked when I had visitors???  I will be interested to see how this performs with visitors and note whether the trains really do know you are trying to show them off!

Cheers from Australia

Trevor

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Glad to see this progressing! May I ask who made the USRA pattern 0-8-0s, and the turntable?



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Hello Brendan,
The loco's are/were Lifelike now Walthers and the Turntable is a Heljan which I think was marketed by Concor in the States. I bought it about 35 years ago. I did have a motor drive on it but with that age and the extremes of the shed, the underfloor gear wheel disintegrated one day! I merely turn it by hand at this stage but motorising it again is another of the projects I have set myself ... at current rates about 2130!

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Today did not have much to show on a visual level but I now have all three of my controllers up and running! I use three controllers, two inertia controllers shown below on the left (walkaround version) and right ( and a straight controller. The power supplies are in the three cases. 
The wiring has to be straightened of course but part of the reason is that the cradle is deeper and wider than the previous version to hold some often used tools (not a soldering iron) for ready access such as uncouplers etd.

Below is is the control panel showing the block arrangement.  On the main track plan, the switches facing up are on the Main Controller ( the controller on the right above) while when they are turned down are on the Walkaround Inertia, 

The switches down the bottom on the inner loops are operating either the upper switches or the third controller while the ones for the outer loops turn those blocks off. I could have used rotary switches and may indeed do a rewire further "down the track" (pardon the pun) when the Reginald Bridge/Vista Fiddle yard module is reinstalled.



This enables me to run 3 locos at any one time. If there are any more than 3 locos being operated, the centre controller is not used and the bottom switches are all used as off switches.  This has enable me to operate up to 5 locos in the same vicinity but only 2 at a time.

The desk top is my old computer desk which I am now using as a work bench which conveniently rolls under the layout until I need it... which in the rebuild phase means 95% of the time!

The following view is just a generic one at the back left hand corner of the layout and I thought you might appreciate seeing a view of a train in action



Hope to have more detail for you soon!
The next task will be getting the back scene a little more presentable with tree textures and deeper colours for the "forested"  areas!  So I guess that won't how much progress either... oh well I am enjoying the journey anyway!

Regards from Australia

Trevor

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Hi Trevor, looking great !  It's a pain having to strip down the layout for a move but it's given you a chance to look at and change any areas you weren't happy with :thumbs  not sure if this helps with the summer scenery or not but all I can say is you need more trees   BIG trees !    






I'm lucky enough to be going on this later in the year :Happy

Cheers

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Hi Matt,
Thanks for that... I had a number of pine like trees that have been around for a while which badly need "renovating".  

The layout itself is only a 4 x 8 so there is an issue with having things like trees etc overpowering the scene and making it "smaller" by virtue of scale...  I know there is a coal tower there but the trees are such that they could provide a bit of depth perhaps by forcing a bit of perspective. Trying to get that balance right is a cause for a lot of thought but there is another load of trees coming like the ones you already see!

Today I finally managed to get some acrylic matte medium... it seems to be like hens teeth in this area and it was on sale!  I also got a foam block that I will grate down to make some grass and bush material before adding any Woodland Scenics stuff I have...  haven't managed to find that yet!

Cheers and Thanks Again

Trevor


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Hi Trevor, Yup I thought you would need a pretty HUGE layout to reproduce THAT type of  scenery :shock:  but I thought it could help with the colouring maybe, Dont worry the woodland scenics will be tucked away safe and sound in a box. . . SOMEWARE ! :mutley  You will find it just after you buy some new stuff !   looking forward to seeing more :thumbs

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Hi All, 

The next couple of photos are more of a "before" and "during" rather than a "before" and "after" as I am using some materials that I have not used before.

St Agnes Railway was scenicked with scatter and trees of different types on a mission brown paint base colour... it was a paint I had and prior to this layout being started, my scenicking efforts were very basic and being of limited means at the time, I used the paint left over from the colour of the trim making over the house in readiness for the first born...

The hill that you see here is after the washes of earth tones have been done. I have had a couple of different people through who liked the cliff faces and the dramatic effect... they are friends and I deliberately asked them not to "soft soap" with their critique. 

This view was taken today before the application of the "grass"...





Fast forward to the move here, and I have had a bit of experience with ground foam and gluing to the surface but was a little stymied by perhaps a little bit of trepidation doing it on my own.
I got the matte medium yesterday and the earth tone acrylic paints a while ago. Today I got a few different toned green florist blocks for a couple of dollars each so I have been busy with a file grinding them down to loose ground foam to give a couple of different toned greens.

Following a you tube video in a way, I painted a small area on the top of the spur with some Raw Umber acrylic and spread some of the ground foam of the two tones I ground up on that.  I was not totally happy with the result so I have painted some areas with straight matte medium and spread the “grass”.

I am NOT modelling an area called "One Tree Hill" near Adelaide but I also received the plastic tree armatures in the post today so I painted the branches with the matte medium and rolled the tree into the foam to try one out.  I think I need some practice but I am looking forward to receiving my other trees...

Anyway less than an hour or so later and here is the difference...



If anyone has used plastic tree armatures and ground foam, I would be interested to know what techniques you used but it was the first one! I will be relying in the mean time on the trees that are coming to fill in the scene with the armatures as fill in trees!

The black "divot" is the back of  a ground signal powered with a bi directional led and made with a Kadee coupler pocket as a base.  You can see how it and its three copies were made on the following web page... 

http://xdford.freeasphost.net/stag14.html

Hope you are liking the views

Regards from Australia

Trevor




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