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:mutley "Indecision is the key to flexibility"

I've got so many books and track plans to choose from, too many, but as usual, nothing seems to be 'just' right so I can't make up my mind and regret having spent weeks/months trying to get a roundy-go-round to work. I'm now thinking along the lines of Wallingford or Watlington as terminus prototypes to work around, but Lambourn has an intriguing 'Y' release   and access to the single road engine shed I like so I could re-use my Bear's End shed.

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Watlington 1983

Now doesn't that look tempting?

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Hi Doug

Superb benchwork.......the curve is so elegant. Definitely a craftsman's layout.

Cant wait to see the track plan

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Thanks John,I have been watching the civil engineering tribulations with sympathy!

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Looking good Doug .Well done.  What is the plan with the wall brackets?



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Thanks,  Reg,

The brackets are to provide fixings for back scene boards and cantilever brackets for a lighting pelmet. At each end there will be curved backscene supports as I don't want 'corners' to appear in the sky!

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Stand by....be sure you are seated...shock..amazement.

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Pieces of cardboard. Planning station platform curves etc with card templates, 78", 72", 60" etc. I have tried flexitack curved variously, and I can just accept 72" radius curves. Any thoughts? I have placed 3 carriages on the curves, and only at 72" do they look as though they are not part of a 'wiggly worm' layout!

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If you can get away with the larger radius, I think it will look superb with the wonderful curve of your baseboard because it won't look as though it is running parallel so will be visually interesting as well as avoiding the wiggly worm.  I hide my tighter curves as much as possible but you definitely won't need to do that.  Looking forward to more!

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It's looking excellent Doug - love the frame work.

As Michael said, the easier the curves, the better it looks.  If you can get the 72" in, then go for that. 

IMHO, many an otherwise excellent layout, is spoilt by tight curves with huge overhangs and coaches with a massive gap between the platform and coach.  A 6ft curve would be a delight, provided you didn't then have to enter a 2" radius curve to get round the corner !!

I still do like that shelf bracket idea for the supports - very clever and totally dual purpose !!



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Hullo Michael, Peter,

Thanks for your interest, I shall make the curve of the platform road 6ft radius, with the carriages lining up in front of the platform on the viewing side, and the run-round in front of that. At the other end, a 3ft radius curve will get me round the right angle and parallel with the end wall where after 4ft  I intend ['intend' is another of those words like 'if', isn't it?] to have a 3ft double sector plate with just three roads, unlike the Bear's End model which had 5 roads.



Herewith a picture of the 25mm insulation board which will form the lowest level of the baseboard. A piece of 50mm rest on top. I want to put the curved station, station throat and small goods/loco facility down behind that curve and then cut it out completely as a unit in order to place it on the bench to wire it up. With 30mm x 6mm strips contact glued to the underside I hope to drop it back in to be connected to the main line.

That's exercised the old grey cells enough for today, I might do a 'pitcher' to illustrate my 'forts'.

Douglas

P.s. I forgot to say that the aluminium tape used to back up the 'No-Nails' joint in the boards is the very devil to work with. Imagine super glue on aluminium foil! It comes second in difficulty only to trying to push butter up a porcupines ar$e with a hot knitting needle.....



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Looking good Douglas  :thumbs   Re the butter. . . . Try a refillable silicone cartridge and gun !!!
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Hi Douglas,

Is that 6' curve the radius or diameter?

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Barchester wrote: Looking good Douglas  :thumbs   Re the butter. . . . Try a refillable silicone cartridge and gun !!!
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Tee hee!

This is the man who once threw a whole load of tools in a tool bag into the boot of his [ex]chum's Corsa including an areosol can of expanding foam. It was evidently punctured by the corner of my try-sqaure and when I came to get out it was just on the verge of pushing up his parcel-shelf.....

Shame, it took me days to get that stuff off my tools, I've never been able to look a 'Crunchie' bar in the face since then.

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BCDR wrote: Hi Douglas,

Is that 6' curve the radius or diameter?

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'Tis the radius, sor, distance between the ulna and the Radio Times...



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Well, the glacier has moved on 6ft and I have decided on wire-in-tube for my pointwork. I couldn't resist some ancient point levers in the odds and sods box at Chris's Crafts [ 206 Exeter St, Plymouth PL4 0NH 01752 665007-well worth a detour to visit], just needed to convert the 6mm throw to the 3mm needed to operate points, so I knocked up a 'lost motion' setup with sawn up chocolate blocks and some 1mm I.D. brass tube and imm piano wire as I didn't fancy omega loops or their like so herewith pictures of a proof of concept lash-up fixed to scrap of 25mm hard foam insulation board.. I sourced some miniature 3mm throw DPDT slide switches from  'http://www.newmodellersshop.co.uk/', very helpful, even calipered the switch travel for me to check the 3mm travel.


Tie bar end showing expanding curtain wire 'tube' and means of adjustment for the exact position of throw.



Overall view of lever [one of six], terminal block with 1mm brass tube and slide switch



Switch pulled to the right




Switch pushed to the left.


Fortuitously the distance between levers and terminal block holes are both 8mm so I am hoping to be able to fasten it all side by side on a nice piece of hardwood.

Hope it gives someone else an idea as the 'lost motion' device allows any lever throw to be trimmed down appropriately.

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A little diversion from point-control, herewith a semi-through plate girder bridge made from the panels in the Wills Vari-girder pack and some odd scraps.

I made up the girders, then knocked up a temporary square frame in 2" x 1" soft wood [using my Ikea drill] just to keep things square and upright and arranged the components inside it using Blue-tack to help hold things in place.

I assembled it resting on a smooth floor tile that I polished up with bees wax polish to ensure the Plastic Weld didn't adhere to the tile, and rubbed some on the 2" x 1" where it might stick, left it overnight, and slid it off this morning.










Shown below are a mock-up of it in place in Gronan Creek, a putative feature of 'Ursa', named after the swineherd who jumped off the bridge when his advances were rebuffed by Desiré Dungmore's great grandmother.





I intend to build an arched abutment over the footpath which forms part of the pilgrimage route to the shrine of Saint Gristle, the patron saint of black-pudding makers.

Poop-poop!

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Somehow I missed your previous post about the 'lost motion' point control Doug, like that, very clever use of everyday cheap bits :thumbs

Bridge looks good as well :thumbs



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Thanks, Ed!

Now I have finalised the track plan, shown below, a very simple terminus inspired by an article by Steve Flint [Editor of R' Modeller] entitled 'Room to Breathe' in which he advocated a deliberate departure from trying to cram too much into a small space. I've designed it to accept a three coach train, just,  with a run-round, goods shed, goods siding, end loading facility and an engine shed ['cause I have one...] all fanning out from three large radius r.h. curved turnouts. The other two turnouts are medium radius R.H. and large radius 'Y', hopefully giving a more prototypical smooth curving appearance.

With only 18" of passing loop, any reasonable sized goods train will have to occupy the platform road to begin shunting, the platform spur is long enough to take a rail-car but the end loading spur deliberately too short for all but a brake-van.

A catch-point at the station entrance connects to an overbridge and a 1" in 40" uphill 48" radius curve leading to 'the rest of the world'. It should leave lots of 'room to breathe' for scenery etc., the whole being some 6ft-6ins from the bridge to the release spur with a further 9ins from the spur end to the wall.



As a slight disability prevents me from looking upwards to see the underside of the baseboard, all wiring will have to be concealed in the upper surface. The passing loop and release road and the goods/shed roads split at the join between 'A' and 'B' and will be lifted separately and turned over to wire frogs etc before the wires and wire-in-tube slots are cut into the hard foam baseboard, their paths being transferred from the paper to the board below using a sewing pricker wheel.

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Very good progress Doug you have created an interesting trackplan within the space.

What is reason for the catchpoint near the bridge ?


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Briperran wrote: Very good progress Doug you have created an interesting trackplan within the space.

What is reason for the catchpoint near the bridge ?


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Thanks, Brian. The catchpoint is there i.a.w. prototypical practice, I believe, because with a 1940-50s setting, unfitted goods stock could be used and a run away wagon could potentially run downhill directly to the station throat to anything waiting for the block section to be clear to leave. The catch point should derail it although  is probably a little unrealistic to have it so close to other the pointwork.

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