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 Posted: Sat Dec 30th, 2017 07:57 pm
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Hi John,

Just catching up with the thread. Nice layout.

Out of interest, what made you decide on DC rather than DCC control? Interesting choice, especially as you are starting from scratch with what looks like DCC-ready locomotives.

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BCDR wrote: Hi John,

Just catching up with the thread. Nice layout.

Out of interest, what made you decide on DC rather than DCC control? Interesting choice, especially as you are starting from scratch with what looks like DCC-ready locomotives.

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Hi Nigel, thank you sir  :)

The board is DCC ready if I decide to go down that route however there are a few reasons why I am currently sticking with DC....

1) I understand DC and would need to learn about DCC

2) This is a biggy for me, cost. If I went DCC it would be for the sound factor and that adds a lot to the price of engines. I have 16 engines, not many by many peoples standard but 16 x the extra cost of DCC and sound is a lot.

3) My lay out is just a simple glorified Inglenook and I can run two engines at once with how I have the controllers set up so I am not sure how much of an advantage DCC would give me.

I do like DCC a lot and enjoyed running the DCC lay out at the club last week, however at the moment I am very happy with my lay out running DC.

John :)



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Hi John,

It took me a while to switch to DCC when I returned to the hobby after a career long break and I thought I'd just pick up with the old system, but realised the way to achieve superb slow running, acceleration and braking was by digital control of the motor, hence DCC, together with the other benefits it offers.

If you buy a chip at the time as a new loco, the cost is not that much of a shock. Standard decoder prices range from £10 to £35 and you frequently get just what you pay for and I buy from a manufacturer who only makes decoders. Sound is a different matter and frankly, I find many footplate recorded profiles (steam) unsuitable and far too loud for viewing from normal distances.

If you find a local MRC something you and your other half want to join, it may well be a good idea to chip a couple of locos to run on the club layout and see how you go from there.

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Longchap wrote: Hi John,

It took me a while to switch to DCC when I returned to the hobby after a career long break and I thought I'd just pick up with the old system, but realised the way to achieve superb slow running, acceleration and braking was by digital control of the motor, hence DCC, together with the other benefits it offers.

If you buy a chip at the time as a new loco, the cost is not that much of a shock. Standard decoder prices range from £10 to £35 and you frequently get just what you pay for and I buy from a manufacturer who only makes decoders. Sound is a different matter and frankly, I find many footplate recorded profiles (steam) unsuitable and far too loud for viewing from normal distances.

If you find a local MRC something you and your other half want to join, it may well be a good idea to chip a couple of locos to run on the club layout and see how you go from there.

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Thanks Bill :)

We have just joined our local club and I have to admit the idea of chipping a couple of locos did cross my mind. Can you add the chip and then remove it again or does it have to be wired in?



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It depends on the age of the loco John, together with the degree of ease the manufacturer has designed into their product.

Much older locos need to be hard wired for DCC, so are not really suitable to pop decoders in and out of. Newer examples either have harnesses which can be changed, but not ideal, while increasingly, new locos have 'direct plug chips' and some steam locos even have very easy access through smoke box doors for example. Just remember to put the blanking plug in a safe place for when you want to revert to DC control.

There is always a risk of damage however, when taking bodies off and refitting, so possibly better to fit and forget and simply enjoy.

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I may just get one engine and have that one permanently changed then :)



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The club lay out is operated by a wireless system and by using tablets. There is a programme to down load too.



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Wow, now that's progress for you! It must be a fair sized layout.

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Longchap wrote: Wow, now that's progress for you! It must be a fair sized layout.

Cheers,

Bill

It is H U G E. Takes up an entire room, it is a very big room too.



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Hi John,

I doubt you will require wireless decoders, the interface should be at the DCC input to the track unless the club has opted for Blue Rail or similar. I use regular NCE plug in at home, Digitrax duplex wireless at the modular club.

Standard decoders are usually DC and DCC compatible, run DC at home, DCC at the club. They tend to run a bit rough on DC, and will require higher "voltages".

Sixteen locomotives. Sound would be quite an investment. Start with a decent system, and just do a couple to start with. I'm biased, but the NCE base system is about the most user friendly of the lot, and ideally suited for a small home layout. And for about the cost of a new locomotive. Watch out for limited function decoders, it pays to get the best you can afford. Get somebody at the club to show you how to install one in a DCC ready model. You can avoid all the hassle by buying DCC equipped in the future.

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Cheers Nigel, it is all making a bit more sense now  :hmm :doublethumb



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I have just finished cleaning my track, I do this two or three times a week depending on how much I have run the lay out. I am having a friend over tomorrow to look at the lay out, he is about to start building one of his own.

I took a few pictures too, so here they are......  


 

 

 

 





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I have decided to move my controller to a more central area, this will enable me to have a better view while operating the lay out. 

While I was deciding this I took some more photos  :mrgreen:











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Last week I decided to extend my lay out, only 16'' but every extra inch is a bonus 
Still a lot to do but this is it so far........



 





 





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Kingswood Cave at night, wash the dog and drying time!














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The 08:15 to Hurcott Town approaches and enters Kingswood tunnel.......









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That 08.15 going into the tunnel is running nice a slowly John.  I see you have a Gaugemaster controller - is that why ?

What is this building made out of ?  Looks excellent. :thumbs  Typical - daughter lounging in a deckchair whist Mum hangs out the washing ..................huh, today's youth !!! :twisted:



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Thank you sir  :)

House is just hard board with stone plastic card and tiles made from card board cut up. Guttering is Ratio and lighting is just the simple Hornby Skale but the bulbs are painted with a buff paint mixed with matt varnish to thin it out.

Yes the Gauge Master controller is to thank for the slow speed and DCC type pull offs. My lay out is DC but people think it is DCC thanks to that controller.



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