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I have recently started on a new layout which I have named Teasel Bay.  I am a complete novice as my original layout was a simple board with an oval or two in my early teens.  A dropped the hobby for a number of years and now I have a reasonable space I have decided to have some fun.  While going through the process of buying the new house I browsed this forum looking for ideas, there are some very impressive layouts on here, if I can make Teasel Bay look half as them I'll be happy.

A lot has changed in the 15 years I've been away from the hobby, the advent of digital control which will reduce the wiring considerably and allow me to run many trains at once with ease.  I am not really a fan of the Hornby Railmaster software, as a software developer by trade I have set out to write my own control software as well as build the railway!

Teasel Bay is going to be loosely based between 1830 and current day....  

I hope you enjoy watching the progress as the layout slowly advances and any helpful tips along the way will be greatly received.


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How many people start with an oval of track on the living room floor?

I decided to start with the Western Master set for £100 as it came with the eLink, Railmaster and a 0-6-0 Pannier Tank to kick me off.



The first cut... I decided to go with a simple wooden frame as its easily to work with.  My woodwork skills are nothing to shout about, I have used common sense on my joins and pure educated guess work, which seems to have worked so far.



Above, the first join. Taking an U shaped cut out of the main support for the cross sections.  Below the first "block" is constructed checking we are level as I go.  My plan is for the tracks to remain relatively level with an upper and lower level.  Initially I'll be focusing on the lower dual "L" shaped loops with the upper to be built at a later date.



Using old Hornby track on the floor to work out the minimum clearance needed to get a very tight turn 2nd on the inner 3rd on the outer. Unfortunately need to be tight to fit it in the space but the plan is for this to be hidden under a tunnel so only more realistic bends are modelled.




As the track heads into the garage the width of the layout is reduced to allow more room around the layout and I plan to eventually add a beach here to give Teasel Bay its namesake.  At the back under scenery I plan to have a small set of sidings to allow trains to enter the tunnel and a different train to exit.  I hope this will add a bit more interest than a simple oval.  Eventually the plan is to get my software to control this and randomly select trains to run.



Looking back to the entrance of the garage.  I've added some areas for the wires to run once the base boards are down.

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Hi Chris Sorry for late Welome to YMRC. Very best of luck with Teasel Bay build.

Please keep sending up date plus pics.

Enjoy Forum.

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Hi Chris

Glad to see you.

I'll be interested to watch how you use the Western Master, as I'm running RailRoad&Co.

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Thank you both for you replies already. I should say that I started the project back in January, so the first few photos are backdating progress.

Using old track and the longest carriage for reference I started planning the track position and cutting out the baseboard using a Jigsaw borrowed from a friend.



I had not finished the full structure by this time, as you can see the rear support at the back of the garage is resting on stuff before being fixed into place. On the photo below you can read "Good bye" written in paint (well I hope it ins't blood) which was there when we moved in!



Progressing slowly around to the rear of the garage.  As you can see eventually the layout will be hiding quite a bit underneath!



Finally laying the old track to loosely plan the layout over the completed structure at the back of the garage.  Phase two will eventually see a second oval around the edge of the garage with a removal section at the front for access but that is far into the future.


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:hi Chris


You've made some good progress there, wish my garage was as clean :mutley




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Looks like a good structure. I wish I could get into my garage, it's that full of junk!

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Its coming on a treat,its going to be a nice layout.Piran

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Thank you for the positive messages  :lol:

I went with a cork underlay which is 2mm thick which is used for floor underlays.  I decided to have a sheet under both tracks and a single sheet under the tracks stuck down with standard PVA.  I have thinned the width of the upper sheet since this photo.



After lots of research I decided to use Peco code 75 track as I liked the finescale look. 



Using flexiable track allowed me to gradually reduce the radius of the corners to the straight to allow trains to run smoother.



After laying a couple of sections of track it was time to test. Connecting the output from the eLink using two files to hold the wires onto the bottom of the track.



The first run was successful but if you listen to the video nearing the end, play was cut short by my 2 month old looking for some attention   :Red Card

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Back to the old track to plan out the storage yard, looks like I can fit three tracks per circuit.  The structural column unfortunately reduces the space available for the yard.


My high tech solution below to temporary hold the wires to the tracks. Pulling the tracks out just before the turn to give the track enough space to get around the corner.  The plan is to have a bridge at the end of the station to hide most of the turn. Had to pull up some of the cork to re-route the track but you won't notice once some scenery is down.



Continuing around the back of the garage.  The curves on the left hand side will be hidden by a tunnel so all the tight turns are hidden on the layout.



Continuing the cork and track around the back of the layout.



Finally, first loop completed! View of the whole layout.



Finally the first full run around the layout by the Hornby BR 4-6-0 King Richard II.


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Hooray, that's a milestone reached. Always a good feeling.
What's next? Second loop?

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Such a thrill to complete the first circuit.  You can now choose between doing more development work or just sitting watching the train go round - in your Fat Controller's armchair with a cup of coffee obviously ..................... :cheers


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Marty wrote: Hooray, that's a milestone reached. Always a good feeling.
What's next? Second loop?

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Indeed it is.  Yeah I've already started on the second loop and the storage area at the back to start making it a little interesting!

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Petermac wrote: Such a thrill to complete the first circuit.  You can now choose between doing more development work or just sitting watching the train go round - in your Fat Controller's armchair with a cup of coffee obviously ..................... :cheers



That has been my problem recently, rather than do "work" with I've been "playing". I bought another engine rather than spend it on more track/scenery! I have a long long way to go yet but I'm on the way!

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After carpentry it is now time to brush up on electronics.  As I the layout is digital this is currently pretty straight forwards. 


As the layout is digital I opted not to use red/blue as there is no sense of positive or negative as the current is alternating. I also decided to green/yellow for the track bus and eventually a second colour set for the accessories I want to be flexible to one day have a different digital controller for the track bus and the accessories, depending on how well the software development side goes I plan to have one machine as the router controlling signals/points and a second which will then run the trains within that system.


I also found online the little red clips above which break the insulation on the bus wire and link to smaller wires dropped from the track.  After doing more research online I went with the technique of soldering the center of each length of track to ensure power is consistent across the layout.



Not too bad for my first go... I chose an area easy to get to which will be hidden under a tunnel for the first few until I'd perfected my technique as to not melt the sleepers!


For the point work I choose electrofrog for the clear benefits of allowing trains to run smoothly over them, even with the Pannier Tank's small wheel base it quite happily moves over them at slow speeds.  As recommended I cut the little wire under each point and for now hard wired the frog so trains can only run staying on the main line.  Eventually as money allows I'll start buying some Colbalt Digital IP motors to switch the point and the frog.

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Just a short update this time... 
Got the seal of approval from the toddler who now gets very excited when coming into the garage repeating "Choo choo" over and over.  For the purists reading the train was picked out by my toddler, so ignore the double tendered King!


Finally started on some scenery which will bring the layout.  Starting at the entrance of the garage which will consist of a tunnel to hide the sweeping turn returning into the garage.  Started with the upper level track base which eventually will give a double loop around the parameter of the garage.  The tunnel entrance marked out with a Malted Wheats box.



The contours of the front of the layout match the sliding door sections allowing it to raise and close without hitting the layout.  Had to be carefully planned out before cutting.  The monitor which shows an overview of the track and (hopefully eventually train positions) will be attached permanently to the wall in due course!



Hope these little updates are of interest to someone.  I am really enjoying problem solving in the build and imagining how the layout will look in a year plus!

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It's going to be a good one - watching with interest. Always good to get the little ones' seal of approval!

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Following along here too.
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You're very quiet Max ..................... :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hi Peter

I'm renovating the kitchen and preparing for our Convention on the 16th and 17th, so I'm a bit distracted at the minute.

If you're referring to the wiring arrangements, I've been embroiled in this discussion many times before.  Chris has already invested in his materials, so there's not much point in annoying him.

I must be mellowing in my dotage.  :lol:

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Just out of interest what don't you like about the wiring? It seems to be working well with wiring knowledge  exclam:

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I suspect Chris, it's that some people are rightly or wrongly rather adverse to using scotchlock type connectors for connecting droppers to the bus wires.

But I may be wrong :lol:



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Chris,i used to work in the automotive industry and they were well known for the connections to loosen and also to corrode.Bear in mind though that in those instances they were partially open to the elements.Under a baseboard they might perform more reliably.I would test for continuity after each connection though,it may save you some head scratching later on.Most people seem to prefer soldered joints but rule 1 always applies.

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Thanks for the heads up. I test each connection with the meter to ensure a good connection and give it a little tug before soldering. If they do start to cause issues in the future it isn't difficult to prise them off and replace. 

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Hi Chris,

Scotchloks, love 'em or hate 'em. I like them, but only in humidity controlled environments. It's the usual issue of dissimilar metals -steel/zinc on copper. Add a bit of moisture and hey presto electrolytic corrosion and reduced conductance or a break in continuity with fine gauge wire (as in droppers). In going from large to small diameter wires (bus to dropper) you often need 2 (12 to 16 to 18 gauge for example). Terminal strips (chock-blocks) are a better bet if you don't want to solder.

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Been working on building the support for the scenery for the tunnel adding the tunnel mouth position.  The tunnel will open up to a cliff top with the sea below heading towards the station. The tunnel will hide the harsh curve to return along the the back of the garage.



Also finally got the monitor mounted on the wall out of the way, showing the track diagram of the lower level while a Hornby Castle runs below. You can see in this photo how close the garage door is to the edge of the layout.  There isn't much clearance here.

 

I decided to take up and preposition a good section of the inner track as the gap between was far too wide and unrealistic. This has been much improved, showing where eventually the seaside station will stand.



Hoping to get the inner track completed in the next few weeks.

Slow progress, but progress all the same :)

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I was trying out some more interesting photos trying to imagine what it will look like once there is some interesting scenery around! What do you think?




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"The white cliffs of Teasel"
Slow progress is continuing on building Teasel Bay but finally moving from laying track to building scenery now the second loop is complete.

Attention now has moved to the cutting before the tunnel building up the structure to support a cutting



The rock faces molded using the Woodland Scenic's rock molds, resting on the structure to start piecing them together.  Cutting and sanding where required.
 


There will be a footbridge (standard Hornby) leading from the fields down to the sand dunes leading to the bay.  The light "at the end of the tunnel" will be removed shortly once the terrain is built up on the removable sections over the track.


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Coming along nicely, Chris.  :thumbs

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Thank you :-)
A little bit more work tonight to piece together the jigsaw and stick them down. Once dry I’ll fill in the gaps with a little more Plaster of Paris before painting. 


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I like those rock walls Chris.  Looking forward to watching you paint them.  Do you plan to use washes on them ?

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Quite a lot of cork underlay used on your track - do you get nice quiet running?

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Petermac wrote: I like those rock walls Chris.  Looking forward to watching you paint them.  Do you plan to use washes on them ?

I'm not 100% sure yet.  I've seen some great examples on here.  Penhayle is amazing, there is a good example I might follow on this thread: http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=4454&forum_id=52&page=6

I also really like this guy's technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dug-ffEhqZU&t=1264s but with a slightly darker base colour than slate gray.

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Bob K wrote: Quite a lot of cork underlay used on your track - do you get nice quiet running?
I bought a roll of cork underlay for flooring and cut to size, worked out very cheap compared to bought sections.  It does make running nice and quiet and raises the track bed.

Thanks for your interest  :lol:

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Ed wrote: I suspect Chris, it's that some people are rightly or wrongly rather adverse to using scotchlock type connectors for connecting droppers to the bus wires.



But I may be wrong :lol:







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I have had them on my layout for the past couple of years with no issues at all, in fact I have just ripped that layout up and am re-using the same connectors and again with no problems..

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shaunabeer wrote: Ed wrote: I suspect Chris, it's that some people are rightly or wrongly rather adverse to using scotchlock type connectors for connecting droppers to the bus wires.



But I may be wrong :lol:







Ed




I have had them on my layout for the past couple of years with no issues at all, in fact I have just ripped that layout up and am re-using the same connectors and again with no problems..

Shaun

Nice, I've not had any problems yet and good to know they can be reliable. I find it a lot easier than soldering under the board! I prefer to spend my time above the board rather than under it....

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No fight intended.  They have obviously caused some issues in the past for which I didn't know about.  
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I'm quite happy with them so lets leave it there and get back to the fun stuff.

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Apologies to all if I have over stepped the mark for some reason, was just trying to offer some reassurance.

Apologies again

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Fear not Shaun - we all have broad shoulders. :cheers

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No apologies needed Shaun.It's a Marmite problem.Sorry Max, Vegemite to you. :thumbs

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Don't eat yellow snow!
Not only has it snowed across most of the country but it appears to have snowed over Teasel bay as well.



Building up the scenic area with scrap extruded polystyrene.  



I have found it quite nice to work with, a little dusty but I do most of the cutting outside where it is well ventilated.



First picture showing the how the upper layer will look cutting though the country side.  The top layer will run trains from 90's-now.  The track used are old bits of flexi-track I use to check before committing with the new Peco Code75.

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Been too cold to go out in the garage in the past week so I've been doing some painting indoors.  
I started by spraying the standard Hornby footbridge base with a matt black.


The plastic is quite shiny and unlikely for enamel to hold, I found some of my wife's chalk paint.  It holds very nicely and gives the plastic a bit of bulk which I think reflects a painted iron look.



The handrails and main braces I used Humbrol 100 (red brown).  All that I need to do now is to dull up the walkway to show ware and add some rust powder.



The far side of the bridge will be embedded inside the hillside so doesn't need painting at the moment.  I am quite happy with how this turned out.

I have moulded an extra bit of cliff to test some painting techniques.  I washed the plaster with a watered down dark grey mix.



I brushed over with a light grey and then some white.



I am happy with the grey and the light grey brush but I think I need to improve the white dusting as it looks a little heavy.  Any hints or suggestions would be greatly received  :lol:

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A small update to show progress on Teasel Bay.  As you can see I've started painting the cutting face, so far with a dark base.  Next will be a lighter gray/brown over the outcrops.


I've lightly weathered the track and started ballasting.  Here you can see a Adams Radial LSWR 415 class 488 in the distance approaching the tunnel.


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A quick update on Teasel Bay's progress.  Despite the warm dry weather, bushes and weeds have been sprouting up along the side of the railway.

"Teasel Bay at sunset"


Starting to look a little more real, any comments, hints or tips would be appreciated.

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Mmm.  Very nice.  :thumbs

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I like the rust colour of the track Chris - what colour is it ?

Those bushes will need to be watched in the autumn - could create a fire hazard for the kettles ....................... :lol: :lol:

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Chris - great to see the progress you have made, and loads of lovely things coming along. I like what you have done with the footbridge - chalk paint was a stroke of genius I may have to borrow! Looking forward to following your progress further.
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Hi Max.  Have you removed house now?   Best wishes.  Kevin

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Petermac wrote: I like the rust colour of the track Chris - what colour is it ?

Those bushes will need to be watched in the autumn - could create a fire hazard for the kettles ....................... :lol: :lol:

It’s one of Woodland scenic’s ‘rusty rail’ pens. Where as I like the colour I’m not a fan of the pen applicator. I think I’ll just try and match it and paint for the next bit. 

The chalk paint works really well as it seems to stick to anything. I also like the way it adds some bulk to the bridge, it makes it look like it’s had many layers of paint slapped on top. 

Petermac: I’ll be sure to keep a close eye on the bushes in the autumn when they start to drop :-)

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Hi Chris,
Like Pete I like the track colour and also the ballast - in addition to the other scenic work which looks very impressive.

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gdaysydney wrote: Hi Chris,
Like Pete I like the track colour and also the ballast - in addition to the other scenic work which looks very impressive.

Thank you.  The ballasting tutorial came from Rick of Penhayle: http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=6083&forum_id=6


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Here we see Paul admiring the views during his stroll across a newly opened area of the countryside. 



Finally added a blend of greens through to dead grass up the hillside.  Quite happy with that as it is the first time I've used static grass. Below is the hillside from the other side to show the blends.  Just need a few bushes and maybe some sheep, oh and some fencing!



A little down the line the workmen have been busy building a new signal box but they seem to have stolen the sign from "March West Junction" oops....



...and a little further down the line shows the measuring up of Teasel Bay station with a 2-6-4T Fowler just ticking over.




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Good steady progress Chris. Looks fine to me and there is nothing that I can suggest at this point in time. Just keep doing what the little voices in your had tell you to do.

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Thanks Marty :)
Small update tonight, built and painted/weathered a Pillbox which protected Teasel Bay during the Second World War.  Now an unloved structure, which i'm sure in the future will see some youthful evening drinking sessions behind! 



A view up the hill shows the position the Pillbox will eventually take once bedded in. Also painted and placed a old wooden fence protecting walkers on the path from the railway below.


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Hi Connor.  The footbridge reminds me of the little devils, that would stand on the bridges waving at the driver, and then either “ Dangle a brick to break the windscreen “ , or just lob stones .  Best wishes. Kevin

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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Connor.  The footbridge reminds me of the little devils, that would stand on the bridges waving at the driver, and then either “ Dangle a brick to break the windscreen “ , or just lob stones .  Best wishes. Kevin

Hey Kevin, hopefully we won’t have that in Teasel, they are too busy drinking next to the Pillbox!

My names Chris by the way ;-)

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Hi Chris.   Thank you, I am sorry to get your name wrong, the pill box you mention reminds me of youthful adventures but , some persons had a different use for them .   Best wishes. Kevin

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Hello Chris,
Looks impressive ... is it me or am I seeing a similarity to Dawlish in Devon for inspiration?

Well Done mate!

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Dawlish is a great place for ideas. Penhayle on here is another big source of inspiration as it is (was) an amazing layout. 
Eventually I’ll get into the  sand dunes and beach and put the ‘bay’ into Teasel!

Thanks for your kind words :lol:

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TeaselBay wrote: Dawlish is a great place for ideas. Penhayle on here is another big source of inspiration as it is (was) an amazing layout. 
Eventually I’ll get into the  sand dunes and beach and put the ‘bay’ into Teasel!

Thanks for your kind words :lol:
Hi Chris   You had better be careful with sand clogging your Locos?  Best wishes. Kevin

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I plan to Kevin, keep the sand well away!
Recently I've started building (the far) platform of Teasel bay.  I assume this is platform 1, given the main station house and ticket office will sit on it. I'm not sure how the numbering works?

I plan to have the station detachable for building and maintenance. So I've sacrificed an old USB extension lead for the job.  This gives me a negative and four positives to control the station/building lighting on this side.  Interesting reading Chubber's thread on cheap cables.  I used this here mainly for the ease of re-connection, plus a USB can easily handle the mA's the LEDs will draw.



The centre of the base is hollow to allow wiring with drilled spacing tabs to allow the wiring through.  The two sections of wood are then screwed together so they are pretty stable.



The station platform will be made from Wills platform kits.  I painted the brickwork a mix of maroon and very dark red/black in a uniformed way and then rubbed with weathering powders. I can't remember the exact width I trimmed the main station, but for some I took it off the top, other bottom and a few using the middle so to avoid an obvious repeating pattern of the stone work.These were stuck using PVA and weighed down over night.



I filled in the joins between sheets and edging with polyfiller, so hopefully once painted this won't be noticeable.



The platform then received a base coat of grey.



A few weeks ago the local model shop in Bury St Edmunds was having a clear out of its old paints, £1 for each so I snapped up a large array for the station!  I lightly mixed and randomly applied them across the station. At this stage it looks more like a child's toy than what I was going for!!! 



At this point I nearly started again, but I decided to try a grey wash (the same as the base colour) but this time mixed with about 70-80% water.  This seemed to work very pleasingly and far better than I thought it would! I then lightly masked off the platform and roughly painted the white line so it had a worn look.



Once this had dried overnight I rubbed in a small amount of black, brown and orange powders to take off the sheen and dirty it up a little.



I'm pretty happy with how that turned out.  I bought one ramp and one station kit to test it out, so once more kits arrive in the post in the next few days I just need to repeat for the other meter or so down the platform (oh and the other side eventually!)

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Hi Chris. Thank you for your reply. You are doing good work there , I will have to follow your thread closely. I have a set of powders, not started on, maybe I will have to find out how to use them, I have been faffing around for three years getting nowhere, very “Prototypical”, I keep changing the track layout. I guess that Chubber has inspired a lot of members with his thread  .I am watching YouTube when I should be working on my plank/ s. It has been suggested that “ less is more “? But I am thinking of a branch line with a halt, or a signal box and level crossing ? And all this on4foot by fourteen inches, crowded or what. Best wishes. Kevin

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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Chris. Thank you for your reply. You are doing good work there , I will have to follow your thread closely. I have a set of powders, not started on, maybe I will have to find out how to use them, I have been faffing around for three years getting nowhere, very “Prototypical”, I keep changing the track layout. I guess that Chubber has inspired a lot of members with his thread  .I am watching YouTube when I should be working on my plank/ s. It has been suggested that “ less is more “? But I am thinking of a branch line with a halt, or a signal box and level crossing ? And all this on4foot by fourteen inches, crowded or what. Best wishes. Kevin

Hey Kevin, 

I've read quite a lot on powders like you seem to have, but so far I've found that adding a tiny amount and building up seems to work nicely.

As for designing the layout, depends on personal preference and how much open land you want! I used AnyRail to plan out the basic design for Teasel, and then roughly laid out the design with old track to make sure it seemed sensible! 


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Hi Chris.  Thank you.  When I built my four foot by fourteen inch plank it was just a Shunting Puzzle there was a lot of spare board, but then I added a “programme track” . Now that I am going to utilise that track, I have made the longest siding into the programme track. I don’t have a plan, I make it up as I go along, and that is the problem.In the meantime it is better than watching the “telly”.  Best wishes. Kevin

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Onward's with the station...
After finishing the 'prototype ' time to continue one with the other 2 meters, which at 1:76.2 works out as 152.4m scale in length station. 



Showing the contrast between the raw plastic kit and the prototype section in a rare under "sea level" view.  Gives you a chance to see the eLink controller as a Virgin 125 cruses overhead unaware of the construction project below.



For low power consumption such as LEDs here, there is no problem using reclaimed CAT5 cables which have been split to the twisted pairs and an old USB extension lead to make the connection from the removal-able platform to the main board.



Under the base shows the Arduino's connections starting to fill up, which will be controlling the lighting from some software I'm writing. More information on that here in the computer software section. 






Quick view of the finished station platform and tests of the lighting.  The station platform was a little more difficult at the back of the photo before the bridge as it curves around out of view. Testing of pulling various long lengthed trains/carriages along the platform at various stages prevented the platform snagging once complete.  



I did have an issue that the wood holding it together bent up at the end nearest the signal box, this was fixed by the addition of a single screw to pull it back down.  Will also ensure the station doesn't move and encroach onto the track.



Eventually work will start on platform 2 to replace the Hornby platform sections placed.  I'll try to get a few more photos of the lighting at night tomorrow.


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A few photos as promised after dark last night.



Same view from down on the platform



Out of the station masters window...



Back down on the station before the last train of the day departs..



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Had one of those nights where all I wanted to do was to play trains and get a video of them running.  I have many "blooper videos" before everything behaved!
Hope you like a little running video anyway!


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Hi Chris.   Very good. Nice video. Keep up the good work.  Best wishes. Kevin   PS Keep em rolling in, the train movies the better

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That’s why we make ‘em. :lol:
Coming along nicely, glad they behaved in the end.

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Thanks Marty!
Just a quick update on tonight’s work after a trip to a model railway exhibition at Bressingham today.




More vegetation springing up around the pill box. Starting to bed in now. 



Eventually the pill box will be separated from the path by a dry stone wall. The trouble is I just can’t wotk out how to build it yet.......



Hope the update is if interest. 

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Hi Chris.   Very nice vegetation on the pillbox. I could do with a “Masterclass”. For the scenic break on my Shunting Puzzle around the tunnel.  Best wishes. Kevin  

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I have no masterclass Kevin! I simply built it up bit by bit until I think it ‘looks right’ to me! 
I find mixing is important, im starting to get a good little collection of scatters and the like. 

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Hi. Chris.  Thank you, but. I don’t even know which scatters you built up. My first attempt at scatter with a home made static device ) tennis racket/ bat from Poundland , wasn’t too bad. But that was at ground level, not climbing up a wall, or rock face .   Best wishes. Kevin

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Hi Chris

Following your thread with interest!  I really love the railway platform, you got that perfect!  Looking forward to further updates!

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Thanks Michael, glad you like it. It’s taken a good while but worth it. Need to finish off the lights on the other side of the station building as I snapped my drill bit! I can then start the scenery behind it and blend it all together! And then..... (never ending list).

Kevin, all the work I’ve done so far I do a little prototype of first to try it out. If it goes wrong I can try different ways or just throw it away! I bought a cheap static applicator from eBay, works great. I’d be interest to see your self build?  The bushes up the Pillbox are a mix of Woodland Scenics Clump foliage and foliage/grass. Railroad Creak on YouTube has some fantastic videos, well worth watching! Hope that helps a little?

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Hi Chris. I have had/still got some photos of my overdue work on. “YMRC”?, but even though I have had advice on reducing the Pixels, I just cannot seem to be able to do it “Neanderthal” what me?  I spend too much time already watching YouTube , when I should be working on thlayout.  Best wishes. Kevin

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Thanks Dave, still in progress :cheers

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Some great work. I especially liked the platform.

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A little update after a month away consisting mainly of a Toddler refusing bedtime and the Wife wanting to decorate a room I finally have tome time in the evenings to get back in the garage! I have found in that month that by the time I get in there I no longer have any natural light left.. until next year!

I have finally got around to adding sculptamold on the hillside up to the station.


Closeup of the unlit signal box and the away signal in its temporary home.



And of the occupational bridge to allow the farmer access to his fields.




To finish King Richard II a non-stopping service through Teasel Bay this evening.


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Not too much construction work has been happening at Teasel the past few weeks.  Started to finish off the first platform and plan work for the second. Also shows a sneak preview of the stations Christmas lights, I wired up a few days ago.




Class 101 meandering slowly through Teasel Bay heading back to Cambridge at Sunset.




And the same moment captured from up on the hillside.






As ever hope someone enjoys looking at these :)

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Following with great interest.

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At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.


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Tonight's project was to start the platform wall using Wills Kits dressed stone walling.




Painted the top grey and then washed over with white for a washed away look. The main brickwork got a light brown undercoat.






Then dry brushed a couple of different brown/grey's.






A close up of the wall temporary placed. In front is reclaimed platform edging which has been halved and painted white as the wall top.  This will edge the flowerbed.




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It's  all coming along nicely Chris.  I like to see the small steps, which often take a disproportionate amount of time.  It reassures me with my own slow pace!!

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I have no idea what I’m doing so I like to research on here and elsewhere and try and replicate them as best as I can! I’m attempting to replicate the rear of Settle station. 



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Hi Chris. That really looks like good modelling :mutley:mutley:mutley. Could be Settle Station itself? Of course DCC Concepts isn’t wasn’t around in your model era .  Best wishes Kevin 

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I am not looking to copy a single area/station Kevin.  I'm hoping Teasel Bay will have its own charm :)


I'm pretty happy with how that looks! I've even finally managed to swap the signal to be a home as well! The distance is in the process of being moved to the approach on the opposite line near the footbridge.


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Merry Christmas from Teasel Bay


WARNING: Contains flashing imagery.



A bit of fun with a program to analyse the audio spectrum, split out each channel and flash the station lights through an Arduino.

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Hi Chris. Thank you. Very good work, do you have a disco as well ? Have you tried any other music with your lights?Best wishes Kevin 

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Thanks Kevin. It’s taken a few weeks, so during that time I’ve tested quite a bit of music! It will work with anything. Could do some requests in the future! Haha

It started as a project just to push what I could do with the lights and turned into a Christmas project!


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Hi Chris. I have just been listening and watching an orchestra playing “ Coronation Scot “ . Apart from the copyright That would be a good tune.   Best wishes Kevin 

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Sounds like a good song to use Kevin, but as you said you get pulled up for copyright when you upload it!

Had it dancing to ’baby shark’ for my 3 year old! I feel this might be a drain on my construction side! Haha

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Hi Chris. The starter signal near the cabin, is that a Dapol, and how does it stay at clear, without damaging the relay?Best wishes Kevin 

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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Chris. The starter signal near the cabin, is that a Dapol, and how does it stay at clear, without damaging the relay?Best wishes Kevin 


Kevin, if it is a Dapol - designed to have power on all the time during normal operation but will stay in its last position when signal power is switched off


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Hi Ron. Thank you for your reply. Sounds very interesting, but, 16 volts, that’s where things get complicated with so many different voltages. Fifty years ago when I was using a pair of “Duettes “ that wouldn’t have been a problem.I imagined that they would work on a 12 volt supply. But the way things are, I am restricted to a plank and a fiddle yard.   Best wishes and a Happy New Year.   Kevin 

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Firstly Merry Christmas! I wasn’t expecting any activity on here today! Especially on my thread as I haven’t posted in a while!

Sol is right, it is one of Dapols signals which is connected to the Dapol/TrainTech magic box which connects to the DDC bus. So I didn’t need to worry about anything really, it was connected and working in minutes. 




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Hi Chris. Thank you for your reply. I hope you can spare some time with your family on this Christmas break.Me, I have nothing better to do, I am a “ Stereotypical “ Victor Meldrew Type of character and I am quickly learning how to say “ I Don’t Believe It “ everytime something doesn’t happen or work the way that I expected.
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Hi Chris.  Now that Christmas is over, I have been looking at some signalling “ inventions “ and IMHO they stink!.There is one famous company, whose name I won’t mention to save any embarrassment, I was viewing a YouTube video this morning, I typed in “ Semaphore Bounce “ and it is true they can make a semaphore bounce, but, and this is a very big but, the proud demonstrator was oblivious of the workings of a semaphore Signal. When the “ stop signal “ was at danger the distant arm which was on the same post, was at clear? That could never happen.
Another gripe off of my chest?   Best wishes Kevin 

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I have seen models that bounce. I really like the Dapol signals I have. They are brilliant. One of them has stopped working though, but it’s under warranty so is being replaced :cool:

Not much going on scenery wise, been doing some wiring and installing two Colbolt Digital point motors. Seems to take me an age to get the wiring and everything in the correct place but they are amazing when working. Started adding some grass over the fields. 





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Hi Chris.  The signal manufacturer that I mentioned had nothing to do with Dapol. And the “ stink “ was to do with the way that some manufacturers wrongly believe how they work, but all the time traction current is fed through the running rails there is no alternative.  Best wishes Kevin 

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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Chris.  Now that Christmas is over, I have been looking at some signalling “ inventions “ and IMHO they stink!.There is one famous company, whose name I won’t mention to save any embarrassment, I was viewing a YouTube video this morning, I typed in “ Semaphore Bounce “ and it is true they can make a semaphore bounce, but, and this is a very big but, the proud demonstrator was oblivious of the workings of a semaphore Signal. When the “ stop signal “ was at danger the distant arm which was on the same post, was at clear? That could never happen.
Another gripe off of my chest?   Best wishes Kevin 


Kevin, that video was  just showing how the arms bounce and to me, it didn't infer that is what happened in real life !
When we use signals on our rail empires, a huge compromise is used in most cases.

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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Chris.  The signal manufacturer that I mentioned had nothing to do with Dapol. And the “ stink “ was to do with the way that some manufacturers wrongly believe how they work, but all the time traction current is fed through the running rails there is no alternative.  Best wishes Kevin


Kevin, can you explain what I have highlighted in blue please?

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Hi Ron.  Thank you. Yes, it is the way that this particular manufacturer set the signals in “ motion “ ? There is this electronic gadget, which I am not familiar with, but I am certain that you and a majority of Modellers are.The signals are controlled by this gadget for obvious reasons ie the running rails feed the traction current. Meaning that the signals could be left to work themselves, with or without the passage of the train through a section.
Fifty odd years ago I had suggested ,among a small group of London Underground Drivers and Guards that Radio controlled trains, if I could figure out how to do it, similar to  R / C aircraft , would be a good idea. Well recently I watched a “ YouTube “ video with a group of enthusiasts that had powered their Locos with batteries . I don’t think that they were worried about Signals? but if I have got it correct, and the battery powers the Loco, then that would leave the running rails free for track circuits Insulated block joints and all. Of course this idea has taken off in the USA.
With the wide open spaces.  Best wishes Kevin 

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Kevin,. virtually in all model rail, traction current is via running rails and you don't have to use traction power for signals, it is an option. Even if the rails carries traction power, they can still be used for signal control using block detection both in DC & DCC and yes USA modellers used such detection back in the 1950's Twin-T

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Hi Ron. I am not criticising any YMRC member especially Chris or yourself. It is the manufacturers who dream up train signal control “ gadgets “that I am highlighting .  Best wishes Kevin 

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Thanks, building up the scenery slowly slowly! 


Kevin as far as I've seen for model railways RC is mainly used on larger scales in garden railways etc. Like you said there are lots of gadgets easier.  Train Tech have a new version of the semaphore controller which you can add a sensor to the track so they automatically turn once the train has passed which is quite smart!  http://www.train-tech.com/index.php/signalling/dc-dcc-semaphore-signalling

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Hi Chris. Thank you. Please don’t get me wrong, on my small “ modules/ planks? as to yet, I haven’t got any signals.By the way, I hope you don’t think of me as a thread Highjacker . Unfortunately I cannot remember the company that I have been criticising, but, the way their system works, roughly, they have a bank of gadgets ( for want of a better word ) and they set each of them in motion and on the YouTube video that I was watching, the home/ starter signal was at danger, and the distant signal,
mounted on the same post, below, was clear. Which obviously would not happen on the Prototype. With your chosen brand “ Dapol “ which is perfect, why would you need anything else???  Best wishes Kevin 

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I only went in the garage to put away some new wood for platform 2. The sun was in a rare winter position where it enters the garage and hits most of the layout. Didn’t have time for a play but quite like this photo!


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"Fabulous..." 

Now the weather is getting a little warmer I can get back in the garage. The fan heater wasn't cutting it with these sub zero temperatures!


Currently building platform No.2 and in between that while sections dry adding a fake connection between the signal box and the signal.  Just sat on top for the moment but getting there.  Also started a scratch built "John" Barrow"man" crossing hence the fabulous.


Simple for some of you experts out there... all learning for me!





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This week I have been mostly making a access track for Farmer Jack... 




Using various products from the Woodland Scenics Fields materials, I built up the access track using some photos of real tracks as reference. While an old non-working Lima HST sits over the occupational bridge.





Found an old "silver" gate which temporary sits at the access to one of the fields until I can get my hands on something a little better.  Need to make some footpath directional signs to point people in the right direction once they leave the footbridge.





As always comments and suggestions are always welcome. 

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Hi Chris.  There is one rail line that I have travelled on either west Coast or east coast? There is a cattle crossing built over the track. Maybe too new for Teasel Bay. Best wishes Kevin 

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The scene looks really good

Re the gate matchsticks are a good medium for making farm gates.


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A cattle grid would be an interesting thing to try and model Kevin! I’ll put in some thought!
Thanks for the idea of the match sticks Brian. I may give it a go!  I've started work on the field this evening, my plan is to make it seasonal so I can change the look throughout the year. 

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That is a super farm track, and I love the tractor!  You are creating lovely scenes - I really like your signal box too!  You have a knack for creating understated, realistic scenes.  I must try to do that too

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Hi Chris you got me there? Cattle grid??? Who mentioned that? I said Bridge. Where most farms and farmers have a tunnel where a rail line cuts through their land, a bridge is a lot different.    Best wishes Kevin 

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Great looking track Chris.   The fallen tree is a nice touch.  :thumbs

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Just caught up with Teasel Bay Chris... like where your going so far, the farmers lane is particularly good.
Looks like you're having fun programming the lights too...

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Thank you for all the positive comments. 


The tractor is one of Oxford’s and I was surprised at how cheap it was... £6 I think. I just need to get a farmer to drive it.


Sorry Kevin, I read what I wanted to read. I saw the word Cattle, all livestock movements will be down the track and under the occupational bridge. I don’t have space for a livestock bridge unfortunately!


Most of the time I’m having fun, Haha, tonight I had to stop as everything I tried to glue down decided it wanted to stick to the tweezers or fall over and I was getting exponentially annoyed!

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Just realised its Teasel Bay's 2nd birthday today! Here are three images from the first cut, building up the terrain and a current view! Really enjoying it and glad I took a punt at returning to the hobby!



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Happy Birthday Teasel Bay!   :cheers

Lovely to see how it has developed

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Hi Chris.   Have you got celebrations planned? With a Christmas like lights planned?  Best wishes Kevin 

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I didn't but great idea Kevin... I'm on it!....

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Sorry Kevin, no birthday music yet but I have created two videos which you might enjoy:

Train spotting from the footbridge at Teasel Bay station (The DMU driver was fired shortly after due to complaints by passengers by the sudden stop!)




... and from the platform






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Very nice running footage.
And I think sudden stops are going to be the curse of railway modelling til the end of time

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Hi Chris. Thank you very much. I had a “ sudden stop “ like that, short of the footbridge when an alert signalman returned a signal to danger after noticing some little oiks dangling something from a footbridge. But sudden harsh decisions don’t happen in the 21 st century, thank God. Anyway I don’t have anything to do with work now.Best wishes Kevin 

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Farmer Jack has been busy preparing for spring. 













Having fun as always!





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Chris, I need you to come and plant my garden please !!!!

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Sol wrote: Chris, I need you to come and plant my garden please !!!!
You mean Farmer Jack, not me!! Lol

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Hi Chris .  Thank you. Nice photo, it almost looks like an Underground Train. Best wishes Kevin 

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If any of you are bored here is a video of some live running this evening!

Link to evening running at Teasel Bay

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Hi Chris. Very good, but, I think that Miss Marple has missed her train or is on the wrong platform. Now that I/ we have got trains running, I have a lot of Ballasting, embankments, ground cover and much more to do that will prevent boredom , and most if not all is new to me. Happy Easter. Best wishes Kevin 

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The grass is growing at Teasel Bay!




Been working on continuing the scenery behind the station with static grass and then I tried my hand at making some bushes using dried out fine twigged weeds I pulled out of the side of the path along the guided bus way in Cambridge on my lunch break walk! These were finely coated in PVA and then dipped into various Woodland scenic scatters.






Around the signal box I wanted a pretty unruly unloved bushes, which is why I started on these as if I didn't get a good glue coverage it didn't really matter.  I'm pretty happy with how these turned out. I have just received a package today of rubberised horse hair to make some smaller gorse/bramble type bushes to tidy up underneath the larger bushes.






Also added some light weathering and rusting to the signal and signal box so they didn't look so perfect!






And finally made some work to finish the barrowman crossing,  A little tidying up to do but nearly there!






Hope it is of interest to someone.


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Hi Chris.  Very good indeed, you won’t get any criticism from me, by the way have you got a “ route clearing gang “ at Teasel Bay ? I think that someone has rode away on the Signalman’s  bike. Best wishes Kevin 

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Coming on a treat.

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Farmer Jack takes an evening stroll through his genetically modified Tulips (which have a remarkably long time flowering!) while a Adams Radial quietly passes by!


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Very nice planting.  I blame global warming for the extra long flowering season.  Or Brexit..... I blame most things on the dreaded B word!

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Headmaster wrote: Very nice planting.  I blame global warming for the extra long flowering season.  Or Brexit..... I blame most things on the dreaded B word!

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Haha. Im not sure on Farmer Jack’s political status! Either way, it’s time to harvest the tulips and plant something new...

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Starting to build up the land behind the station and the road leading to the station car park which is called... well Station Road! Built how I've completed all the scenery, cut and shaped expanded polystyrene, but for the outcrops I went with some real stone!



Covered in Sculptamold which I personally think is the best product ever! Thew road is actually sanded polyfiller for a smoother surface. The car park is a bit of wall paper "tester roll" which has a textured surface with kinda resembles cobbles.



Seen here after being brushed over by watered down brown and grey paint. While the 15:10 service to Norwich waits to depart platform 1.



While the paint is drying I sprinkled over dried sifted dirt over the land and maybe quite surprisingly for the road dried sifted charcoal dust which saved from going in the bin last year after a BBQ. (If you check back other photos it is used along the hillside path as well). Then its on with the standard static grass, missing many shades and lengths depending on the relief of the land.


I left a few rocky outcrops behind the station car park. The big brown blob on the photo below is going to be the position for Teasel Bay's war memorial. The cobble stone car park needs some dry brushing but it is getting there :)





Does anyone read the blurb between the photos? 

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And so do I - plus, I agree with Michael - it's impressive. :thumbs

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Always read the blurb Chris, it explains the pictures and never know what colour it will be next :lol:


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Cool that is good. I'll continue then! Glad you like the colours too, I did it to amuse myself!

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Class 101 to Cambridge waits patently for the line to clear at the recently installed signal protecting the line South of Teasel Bay. The signal is connected to the TrainTech DDC controller.



Added another run of fencing to protect the users from the station cutting. Got the knack of creating this fencing now, other than my finger being sore after drilling 100's of tiny holes in the matchsticks. Posts are drilled 2.5cm apart. More information on the fences can be found on here: http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=16071&forum_id=14



The completed fence running down to the station. Needs a little weathering to tarnish the wires etc but getting there.



View of the whole scene from the top of the bridge.



Eventually there will be a removable section hiding the storage area underneath. 

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Farmer Jack has had a bad day, someone has left the gate open to his field and half his flock have escaped.  Once he has round them up he's off for a well deserved drrrrink!


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I’ve taken the plunge and just ordered the Dapol track cleaning carriage from Hattons. I’m struggling to get the track in a good condition in the last month, with even the trusted DMU stalling! Does anyone else have one?

I’ve also built a little cradle from some scraps of plastic foam stuff which a protected a rack disk array for work. The locomotive fits in nicely so I can clean the wheels without breaking bits off.....


Hopefully I can get back to smooth running doom, takes all the fun out of it!

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Finally getting on top of track cleaning, I'll do a separate update on this at some point.









Finished off the edging of the station wall.  Need to add some signage, benches etc.






Passenger eye view down the station.






Even some Teasel's (Google Image search) have started to sprout. Maybe Teasel will finally get a seaside soon!!!

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I recently read an article about track cleaning - I think it was in Model Railroad Hobbyist.  In particular about the fluids we use.  It suggested that we use the wrong things, and suggested using electrical contact cleaners.  It went into the science of it - something about ions and bonding and stuff I don't really understand.

So... I asked my head of chemistry at school, and she confirmed that for electrical conductivity, things like Isopropanol Alcohol, or, indeed, the products sold as track cleaners would not be good for track cleaning over time. (We did  a quick search of popular ones and she checked out ingredients).  Again, she went into the science and I nodded wisely, although none the wiser, and she suggested WD40 electrical contact cleaner as a much better option.  Which was also on the list from MRH.  

She explained that anything will clean the track.... but we don't want clean track, we want clean conductive track, which is different.  I have ordered said WD40 contact cleaner, and suggest it here as something you might want to consider or research further.  Maybe it is something a few of us could try and report back.

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Very interesting and good use of your contacts.
I don’t know why but my track got so bad that nothing would run more than a few centimetres! I guess I got a layer of dirt or glue or dust or all of the above on the track. It was so bad that I had to manually push the track cleaner/clean with the woodland scenic track cleaning brush thing around for an evening before a train would reasonably pull it. This is using the standard track cleaning products. It would be interesting to see how you get on. 

I am currently relying on the switch blade for power on the turnouts which at the moment seems unreliable and I either get a jolt or a stall on multiple switches.  I plan to drill and solder a dropper on to each soon to solve this issue. 

My locos seem to be unhappy as well. My Castle currently won’t run more than a wheels turn before stalling. I’m planning on buying the Peco wheel brushes to try and clean the wheels and contacts. 

Not much scenic progress recently, just maintenance! :cry: Been a few evenings where I’ve given up with a few choice words!

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Wheel cleaning will be the same principle, I guess.  Cleaner is due to arrive tomorrow.  I have a very awkward part of the quarter finished layout that needs cleaning, so I will give it a go in the next couple of days and feed back.  I've used everything, but still have a problem so I will see if it is the cleaner or, possibly more likely, my track laying.

I don't want to hijack this wonderful thread, so will start another, but just to clarify, there are polar and non-polar cleaning solutions.    Non polar solutions are good: they do not have a charge, it won't short out track, it is a good solvent for shifting grease and dirt, it is highly volatile so will evaporate quickly without leaving a residue and it repels water.  Polar solutions are pretty much the opposite - and IPA and other recommended track cleaning chemicals are all, ironically, polar solutions.

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I have some electrical contact cleaner here called Censolve, looking at all the warnings on the can as Extremely Flammable and an Irritant warning users to wear gloves, eye protection and not to breath it in as it can cause drowsiness and dizziness I think I will stick to my trusty piece of hardboard used dry, and then apply my light graphite coating using a 6B pencil.

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My office was binning some old computer bits and I managed to get hold of a touchscreen display, which is now my control panel for the layout. Controlling the trains and switching signals is easier than ever!

Pretty impressed with my freebie!

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How cool is that!!!
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 The photos are great too, a lovely layout developing.


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Headmaster wrote: How cool is that!!!
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 The photos are great too, a lovely layout developing.


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Sir, I think you might be Teasel Bays biggest fan! :doublethumb

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No updates from Teasel Bay for a little while as I've been painting the hall stairs and landing.......  and having an affair with my other hobby





Normal service should resume shortly!

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AV-8B or GR9 ?

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Back to the trains..



I've finally managed to source a footbridge for Teasel Bay station, a second hand Hornby Skaledale platform bridge for £17 from eBay. Needs a bit of weathering but looks pretty good out of the box. Farmer Jack and his dog was the first users to watch some evening traffic...






Feel like the station is coming together now, need some signage and some benches etc but its getting there






At the rear I've started work building up the scenery to the upper level.  I'm building the land up so there is a slight cutting for the upper level.  This means when taking photos of the lower level, you won't be able to see the upper level.  This will help increase the views of the layout keeping it looking simple/county like but allowing me to run a second set of trains around the top (which will be a more modern feel).



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Headmaster wrote: I recently read an article about track cleaning - I think it was in Model Railroad Hobbyist.  In particular about the fluids we use.  It suggested that we use the wrong things, and suggested using electrical contact cleaners.  It went into the science of it - something about ions and bonding and stuff I don't really understand.

So... I asked my head of chemistry at school, and she confirmed that for electrical conductivity, things like Isopropanol Alcohol, or, indeed, the products sold as track cleaners would not be good for track cleaning over time. (We did  a quick search of popular ones and she checked out ingredients).  Again, she went into the science and I nodded wisely, although none the wiser, and she suggested WD40 electrical contact cleaner as a much better option.  Which was also on the list from MRH.  

She explained that anything will clean the track.... but we don't want clean track, we want clean conductive track, which is different.  I have ordered said WD40 contact cleaner, and suggest it here as something you might want to consider or research further.  Maybe it is something a few of us could try and report back.

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 IPA is used industrially as ......electrical contact cleaner. Confusion starts if rubbing alcohol is used - it contains IPA along with lots of other chemicals such as camphor that get left on the rail and reduce conductivity. IPA is a polar chemical, better for cleaning than WD40 contact cleaner, which is formulated with heptane (definitely not polar) and ...IPA. That lone pair of electrons in the hydroxyl group of IPA makes sure any hydrophilic or other polar molecules get picked up. Both work on oils and grease and do not leave chemical residues. Heptane does not usually attack paint. Track cleaning needs several goes to make sure muck is removed. Track cleaning should start before it is laid - the injection process leaves an oily residue and longitudinal scratches. 

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You know those forum sites you visit when you've just pushed a button on your phone and the screen does something weird - the ones that have little boxes asking "Did you find the answer (a) helpful, (b) informative and (c) educational"?

I would give 3 big ticks to your last reply.

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Great advice thanks Nigel, I’ll have a look when I get some new cleaning products. 
I think I’ve got the track sorted now and regular runs of the track cleaning coach should keep on top of it! Now I just need to take the King Class apart to see why that has stopped running. 

Edit* just seen this is post one hundred and eighty!!

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Thanks. Forgot to mention, IPA has around the same electrical conductivity as heptane or octane - essentially zero. Those lone electrons stay where they are. The water in retail IPA from the chemist/pharmacy (usually less than 10%) evaporates along with the IPA due to hydrogen bonding. Same as in a distillery. The proper name is 2-propanol.

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Hi Chris,

It really doesn't matter what solvent is used, as long as it does not leave a residue that interferes with conductivity. Or that attacks plastic or paint. Or is dangerous to your health. It is always worthwhile checking the MSDS to see what is used. And whether you want it in the house, garage or shed. 

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To be honest, I'm not up on track cleaners, but I use IPA because it cleans and leaves no residue, many years ago oil was all the go for electric continuity, it sounds good but oil leaves a tacky coat to rail which attracts dust and grunge!

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Yesterday at Bressingham we found a Norfolk rock from Great Eastern Models. It has just taken a tour of Teasel Bay with a 101 taking on the Sunday service. The rock will now be placed somewhere in Thetford!






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Evening running. I like how the light from the memorial lights up the hillside, shows up quite well in a photo. Tonight I spent most my evening under the board soldering a wire to the inside of the point blades of the fiddle yard as I was getting very inconsistent power on the point blades causing regular stalling. 

It was nice to relax and just watch them run for a bit without having to give them a push!


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Hi Chris.   I wouldn’t mind being able to sort out those problems by myself, at the moment I don’t think that I can hold a soldering iron . Best wishes Kevin 

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Hi Chris.  Thank you. But my trouble is holding the soldering iron, if I need to solder underneath the plank? I just turn it over. Just one of the advantages of a plank, but I would prefer a large layout, and would, if I wasn’t renting. You commented the same time on what as me ? I must have missed that comment. Best wishes Kevin 

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Disappointed with my delivery today. I ordered some embossed paper which was meant to look like a stone wall. I ordered O scale too as I wanted to be pretty large. 





Looked like this on the picture. After a week to arrive from Greece it looked like this:






The stone patten is somewhere between OO and N I’d guess, the quality is poor. I was kinda expecting the stones to be ‘bumped’ but it’s just random dots. Not sure if you can tell from the photo but the pattern repeats rather quickly and the join is poor!



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Hi Chris.  I read a thread by a Modeller of OO Gauge on YMRC where he used an O Gauge Stone Sheet to great effect. I am surprised that you purchased it from Greece, when you can purchase at one of the many model Railway shows you can attend in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and can inspect what you are buying .   Best wishes Kevin 

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It was from EBay Kevin, so as long as they deliver to the UK can come from anywhere. 

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Hi Chris.  Thank you for your reply. But one cannot judge from a photo alone , if one can handle it and turn it over it is far better. Either retail outlet or show stand are better .  Best wishes Kevin 

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I'm back, been in North Wales for a few weeks.  I accidentally booked a cottage with the Ffestiniog running behind it... oops!



Had a little look around the model shops there but nothing took my fancy, so I took a trip to Bressingham's Model Railway event and bought myself a Network South East Class 50, DCC fitted for £90 from Great Eastern Models, which I was quite happy with.



Runs very nicely, and suits Teasel Bay I think. Now I just need to buy a rake of carriages for her as I only have a break.



Work is continuing slowly now I've returned on the upper level, seen here on the workbench. Had to pause as i've run out of PVA Kevin  :lol:



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As per the running in instructions for the Class 156 (page 3, section 1) I'm logging into my favourite internet forum to tell everyone how much I like my new purchase!


Rather excited after watching this project for well over a year and putting a deposit down agees ago, something fun has just arrived!






I just need to finish work, go home, put the kids to bed then I can play!

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Well what an absolutely stunning model! 

The Provincial livery Class 156 from Realtrack models.






With DCC operation you can control all the front/back, passenger, door & cab lighting independently as well as a tonne of realistic sounds.






Out of the box the loco accelerates and decelerates extremely realistically, with amazing low speed handling. With every wheel and cross coach powering there should never be a dead spot, and with a motor in each carriage (as per the prototype) it is amazingly smooth. The motors are also tiny, there is no "dead" space, the interior is the through the whole length of the carriage.






The detailing on the inside and the outside is fantastic. Will need to add a crew and some passengers as it is so light inside. 




 
BUT... unfortunately at the moment I can only run one of the carriages as the second has a fault on one of its bogies, causing it not to sit correctly. 






I'll get in touch with Realtrack and hopefully get it resolved shortly. Once it is resolved and I can run it in its full spender I'll put together a little video showing off how amazing the sounds are.


I wish all models were to this standard, compared to the Hornby/Lima model, they are no where close!

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Hi Chris.  That really is super, I have a plan to add passengers/ customers if I can find some nice looking ones, not a bunch of tourists. Train crew too, if I can find intelligent looking Motormen? That cannot be a good advert for “ Realtrack Models .     Best wishes Kevin 

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Turned out to be extremely trivial! The rear wheel in the bogey had become dislodged, and a simple push put it back in its hole.
The full DMU is now running! Not everyone's cup of tea, but it reminds me of my childhood. 

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Hi Chris.  DMUs don’t have a service from London Bridge to anywhere via Peckham Rye, but I often see one going by my front door, almost, maybe to Depot for refuelling or the like. But I thought that they were the darlings of the GWR.Best wishes Kevin 

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Class 158 for Great Western, as well as South Eastern.

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Sorry but here is another post on my new Class 156. It’s an amazing model. Is anyone enjoying these posts?

First run at Teasel Bay



Departing Teasel Bay station



Night time running


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Hi Chris.  Thank you. Moving Pictures. Excellent, I could watch train videos all day, either full size trains or models, it don’t matter to me.  Best wishes Kevin 

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I enjoyed you videos. Well done

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Ed wrote: Just needs the doors to open :lol:


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Indeed. With the extending pantograph on the Bachman’s Class 90, we might not be far off a working example?

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Hi Chris and Ed.  My favourite part of the class 90 is being able to switch off the tail lights , when there is a train following. As for unclipping the pantograph before operating the servo, I can see “ tears before bedtime.Best wishes Kevin 

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Can you guess what it is yet? Answers on a post card, if you get it right you can go treat yourself to some chocolate! Lol

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It's a spline - or it's going to be one ................................. :roll: :roll:

Can I have the chocolate please ?  :cheers

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Hi Chris.   Something to do with a Rolf Harris art project. Best wishes Kevin 

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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Chris.   Something to do with a Rolf Harris art project. Best wishes Kevin 
I'm not sure many people would be interested in Rolf Harris's next art project.....

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Can you guess what it is yet?

That's probably Harris' most well known quote, as Kevin correctly spotted :hmm

Assuming it's not a backdrop support, I fancy something's going to be hiding behind (or is it in front?). I must watch the GMRC for ideas.

Can I have first lick of Peter's chocolate?

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It wasn't intentionally his quote! 





It is the new section which starts Teasel Bay's "bay". So chocolates all round! haha!


The supports convincing the mdf to follow the gentle curve. Sand dunes will fill the rear of the scene under the footbridge giving way to a sea wall under the station. Teasel Bay will finally have a seaside!  :Happy :Happy :Happy



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Oh goody, we're all going on a summer holiday, so ice creams all round (Oxford do the vans), with a chocolate flake of course!

A great addition to Teasel Bay Chris and with plenty of scope for some cameos.

Have fun,

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You leave my chocolates out of this !! :Red Card :cheers

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Hi Chris.  Very similar to Dawlish Warren then? And not summer Bay, after all. Best wishes Kevin 

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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Chris.  Very similar to Dawlish Warren then? And not summer Bay, after all. Best wishes Kevin 
All names, characters, businesses, places, events and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental. 


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It is inspired from a few places and nothing is set in stone yet.  I plan to have a few cameo's Bill, maybe a winter/summer version of the bay.... My head is full of ideas, just have to see where they take me!

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Hi Chris

One of the German manufacturers do figures suitable for naturists beach.

Just saying............... :cool wink

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Hi Barry and Chris when I traveled through Central Europe, not much wind, I espied a number of bright red lobsters sun bathing in such a situation. Best wishes Kevin 

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Using my standard approach I’ve calved out the sand dunes out of foam. Took a while to get the path right, from the footbridge down to the beach. 






Then covering in Sculptamold. 






I’m pretty happy with how it has started to tie in the footbridge with the rest of the bay. 

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Hi Chris. Excellent workmanship.” Moo” a typo. I only wish I had the strength and spirit to finish my skinny little layout to your standards. Best wishes Kevin 

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Thank you Kevin. 
Hope you are able to get on and make your excellent layout soon!

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Hi Chris . Thank you for your polite reply. After getting over my five weeks in Kings, I returned to Kings only to discover that I had aHeart rate of 150 beats, caused by a possible infection from Cellulitis. Back to square one. Best wishes Kevin 

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Ooh! Very excited to see the bay arrive.  When I was deciding what to model, the other significant option was to do Margate beach and the "famous" Dreamland pleasure park.....  I went for my home town creek, so I will be able to have a bay vicariously at Teasel!
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Thanks Micheal! I’ve always wanted a beach scene ever since I got hooked on Penhayle Bay! Tonight though has been anything but exciting... perhaps a little bit scary. Gently teasing apart the King, to coax it back into life.






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Ouch!  Now that is one area where I have no skills at all!  And I know I will need to improve - I'm counting on others here to help.  When it comes to the locomotives, I am definitely a fair weather modeller..... let us know how you get on and what you did....
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I was about to say "had you seen Rick's seaside scene on his Penhayle Bay" but I see that's exactly where you got your inspiration from Chris.

It's looking good.  I think modelling a summer beach scene will make you feel warm looking at it in the dead of winter ........................

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Haha, Penhayle remains one of my favourite layouts I’ve ever seen!

When do you know you’ve gone too far...... ‘stealing’ some of my Son’s orange Playdoh, rolling small balls and leaving them to dry out, weather them and painting up some tiny bits of dried out weeds I picked a few months back. I think the men in white coats are coming.....


Why? All for Halloween!






Weathered shop bought around the outside and the first few homemade pumpkins in the middle!

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If Pumpkin season in the UK is October then its going to be a bit cold on your beach....

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Campaman wrote: If Pumpkin season in the UK is October then its going to be a bit cold on your beach....
If you go to the beach now, you will need a coat! Don’t worry, by the time I’ve finished the beach it will be summer... 2025! Haha

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And by then, it will be summer all year round...
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... I do have plans to have a high tide version. Maybe that should be the standard!
 Teasel Bay is not always going to be an idillic beach!.....

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Have you got a resident "Jaws" for the beach ?

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Petermac wrote: Have you got a resident "Jaws" for the beach ?

Don’t even have a beach yet! :mutley

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Farmer Jack is busily sorting out his Pumpkins for the Halloween orders.





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Brilliant - love it !!!  :thumbs

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Hi Chris.    When I had an allotment, I grew pumpkins, only once did I grow them of such a size, preferring to grow quashes instead. Best of luck with your Railway Empire. Best wishes Kevin 

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They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.



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Its beginning to look a lot like Christmas!



The Christmas lights were a bargain from B&M for £4.99.  There was about 12cm between each light so I folded and twittered each set to reduce it to about 5cm.  As always I cut the battery pack off, and connected them to the Arduino so I can turn them on/off from the touch screen and maybe have a party in a weeks. Keep your eyes pealed......







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Teasel Bay took part in the Great Eastern Virtual Model Railway Exhibition this weekend. Thought you might like the video I made. 



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Great video Chris!  And what a good idea to have a virtual railway show.
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I enjoyed that - particularly the DMU setting off and the shots in the cutting.   :thumbs

As Michael said, a "virtual show" sounds an interesting idea - how does it work ?  It would probably help to save the planet for a couple more days ................. :lol:

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Thanks. It was pretty straight forward, people just posted content to the Great Eastern Model Railway page on Facebook. 
There were even virtual sausage rolls for everyone who added content!! Haha


                 

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