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 Posted: Sun May 18th, 2008 07:59 am
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Coming on really well - I can hear the bells and smell the polish that the signalman applies every day!

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 Posted: Fri May 23rd, 2008 10:25 pm
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Last Sunday i painted the window frames (aged white) so that they would be fully dry before installing the glazing - after much trial and error last night and today I have managed to complete the glazing to my satisfaction - see pic (the pile of cut-outs at the front are the error part!!) - now back to the internals of the box. I have also completed the door glazing (sitting on the right - upainted)



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Seems like you got there in the end Darren, and well worth the effort, as this model gets better and better. I note the special glue you are using for the glazing - how did you get on with it? I use super glue, which is fine if you don't get it on the areas that show!

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Novice wrote:Seems like you got there in the end Darren, and well worth the effort, as this model gets better and better. I note the special glue you are using for the glazing - how did you get on with it? I use super glue, which is fine if you don't get it on the areas that show!

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Thanks Bob. This glue came recommended from the guys at the local shop (their previous recommendations on solvents were good) and i had seen it in a book i had reading - the glue is good because it doesnt stick right away (more of a watery consistency) and if your careful you can wipe away while wet without leaving a residue. It can also be used to make windows as well if you pool in an enclosed shape.

The best tip re the styrene for glazing I read was to use the back of the blade to lightly score and then cut with scissors - gives a nice clean edge (wish i had known about this when i was cutting the glazing for the Tain Railway Station awning!!)



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Today I had to cut the desk, I had been putting it off but couldnt get it to fit against the back wall along with the coal bunker and stove. I chopped it and put it back together. Picture shows it before cutting.

I have also assembled the interior (including the now shortened desk) - some more touch up to do though.

Lots of painting today included all the instruments on the bench and the bench itself.

Also gave the outside of the box a first coat (Highland Railway Burn Sienna) and then a sand down.







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 Posted: Sat May 24th, 2008 05:47 am
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It just improves every time you touch it Darren, a first class job i may say. Well done on a job well done so far.
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You made a chair too :?: :shock: Superb.
Did you flush glaze with each individual panel inside the frame, or, like me, attach the pane to the rear of the framework :?:
This will be a cracker of a signal box when you complete it.



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Thanks for the encouragement folks.

Marty wrote:You made a chair too :?: :shock: Superb.
Did you flush glaze with each individual panel inside the frame, or, like me, attach the pane to the rear of the framework :?:
This will be a cracker of a signal box when you complete it.


I flush glazed behind the window frame for each but as the glazing bars were deliberately not as deep as the frame this meant the sheet had to be cut exactly to fit the opening to avoid any unsightly gaps. I have provided a quick sketch to show what I mean (blue is styrene clear sheet).



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Darren that is one hell of a build,you Perry and Wayne must have the patience of saints, no way would i do all that.
:roll: :oops: :lol: :lol: 8)

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owen69 wrote:Darren that is one hell of a build,you Perry and Wayne must have the patience of saints, no way would i do all that.
:roll: :oops: :lol: :lol: 8)


Owen , we can do it - it just takes longer that's all , we are only common mortals - not saints not like those 3 :roll:

Yes, very well done Darren - the lever frame is superb :!:

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Darren,
I don't know about you,but I can't wait to see this finished and on your layout in situ.
Are you going to have a signalman in there???..........Be a shame not to with all the detail you,ve already added!
As they say in Cornwall...."Proper Job"
Cheers,John.B.

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Well impressed Darren will you have the interior lit up when finished ?



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Thanks for the glazing diagram Darren, I now know why you had a few trial goes before the final fitting :!:
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First class all the way Darren. Can I ask if you have the same patience with everything you do?



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Very nice work, Darren.

It shows what can be achieved by taking time, care and patience over a scratchbuild. Had you rushed it, I'm sure the results would not have been anywhere near so good.

Well done indeed. :D

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Thanks everyone for the positive encouragement - this keeps me hard at it and ensures good quality is maintained!!

Sol wrote:owen69 wrote:Darren that is one hell of a build,you Perry and Wayne must have the patience of saints, no way would i do all that.
:roll: :oops: :lol: :lol: 8)


Owen , we can do it - it just takes longer that's all , we are only common mortals - not saints not like those 3 :roll:

Yes, very well done Darren - the lever frame is superb :!:


Remember Owen that this is my first serious attempt and there have been MANY things i have learned (some to be repeated others absolutely not!!) Sol has hit the nail on the head - it will come naturally to some and others will have to work that bit longer at it (I am in the latter category!!)

georgejacksongenius wrote:Darren,
I don't know about you,but I can't wait to see this finished and on your layout in situ.
Are you going to have a signalman in there???..........Be a shame not to with all the detail you,ve already added!
As they say in Cornwall...."Proper Job"
Cheers,John.B.


Yes i will John but will have to order him as can only get HO figures here. (I wouldnt attempt to build him as he would probably end up looking like the Michelin Man!!)

Later today you will see the signalmans minature timetable (A Highland Railway one) and his logbook (An LMS one) on the desk plus an LMS railmap on the backwall. My wife has requested a teapot and a mug (I think i will draw the line at his pen (pardon the pun) for the logbook)

Diesel wrote:Well impressed Darren will you have the interior lit up when finished ?

Brian, I will but probably leave that to post completion - i was looking at the things i had not thought about before like a lamp (not on my list previously) and looked at some of the items on the website and others re grain of wheat bulbs which certainly look achievable)

Robert wrote:First class all the way Darren. Can I ask if you have the same patience with everything you do? Bob actually the answer is no - i work in a job that everything is required now,now and now! I find the modelling very therapeutic (clears the mind totally) - when i am tempted to rush or am frustrated with something on the model i can lay it down and start another workfront or have a cup of tea - ie its under my absolute control!!



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Gentlemen,my post said "no way WOULD i do that " not could
i would attempt the signal box which is briil,just not all the interior
fittings.
:roll: :roll: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

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owen69 wrote:Gentlemen,my post said "no way WOULD i do that " not could
i would attempt the signal box which is briil,just not all the interior
fittings.
:roll: :roll: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)


Owen, my apologies - I blame it on old age and not having finished my first cup of tea of the day! :oops:



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Today, saw me completing the instruments as well as the signal box record book (made of two pieces of card - one printed from a genuine LMS log book plus a cover soaked in grey marker pen to colour it) and timetable (i am please how they came out) - see pic below with back wall mocked up (includes an LMS rail map) - still more touch up remains!!!! One of the side walls (not shown) has the clock mounted on it.

I also finished painting the instruments and printed out the faces and stuck to the front of each unit - I was pondering how to seal the printed face (as they are so small) when i realised i could seal with the glazing glue (as you can form windows with it) It had been a real fiddle to size and install the printed faces and I was concerned that they would run but they didnt so thats another job done.

I also created a telephone from three pieces of scrap styrene for the housing and handset plus two pin heads for the bells. I will attach some thin thread once the paint is all dried (pic shows first coat only - need to paint bells and handset black) This will be installed on the back wall.

I also knocked knocked up a small sideboard for the tea and signal mans lamp (pic again shows first coat only) - this was made up of scrap styrene.





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To be honest i am lost for words, its brilliant.
Notice you never went GWR with the maps, good thing really, your trains would always end up late due to going the wrong way :D :D
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