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Hi All,
Progress on my layout "Irgendwo" (somewhere!) has been glacial I'm afraid.
Mum-in-law being terminally ill, dad-in-law not much better, business steady and helping out with my club - all contribute and take their toll.
However, I'm finally making progress on rolling stock, may I introduce certain items on here?

I've recently completed a large amount of horse trading with an old friend that sees me acquire much of his Prussian stock in exchange for my Bavarian stock, not to mention some reading matter. Here is my 'new' Trix T3 along with some Fleischmann coaches;





CC my very good friend Doug and seen on his layout, Alte Rinkham.
Apparently, the T3 originated between 1881 and 1910 and on the Prussian railways, they numbered some 1345 examples in total. This particular version (431 examples) was built between 1895 and 1905, the Fleischmann version (which I also have!) only numbered 52 copies. There are only some quite minor differences between the two types, mainly around the water tank.
This loco should be capable of hauling a good 36 axles on the flat, this one may need some attention as it seemed distressed at pulling more than 10 axles and very little up Dougies 3% slopes! It squealed at trying such a grade so was hurriedly assigned to a flat route.
Despite that, I am very pleased with it although I have read that it's rigid chassis* causes hesitation, it ran smoothly enough, only baulking at occasional dirty spots which were soon rectified.
Hopefully, I can show more items as time goes on?
Cheers,
John.

*For which, I have a cunning plan.

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I'm no great shakes as a cameraman but here is a little video I made recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wum6Zz44P4

I must add, this is on my good friends layout, Alte Rincham now sadly demolished due to moving house.
Cheers,
John.

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Hi All,
Now that summer is finally over, I hope to start making some progress with this, along with other projects to come.
I have done very little with this layout since my last post but a couple of important things have happened.
I have managed to clear all the junk from on top of the layout that had imperceptibly built up over time. It is amazing how one just places something with the intention of sorting it later, then something else and before you know it, the layout is invisible and it has become merely a storage shelf, well no more!
A bit more messing with the track layout and I shall start glueing.
Also, I realised that "Irgendwo" (somewhere) is rather too common a name for me, I wanted something different. This fact was hammered home at the recent(ish) ERA show at Edgbaston where there were at least two other 'Irgendwo's.
So! What to call this layout?
Trawls of the internet proved inconclusive and studies of online maps became brain numbing, then it dawned on me. A colleague had suggested that I place a statue outside my station of Fieldmarshall Blucher as he was instrumental in helping to defeat the French at Waterloo. Reading up on him, what a fascinating character he was. I've still not located a suitable figure of him to be my statue but I could pay tribute in another way.
Therefore, my new name for the layout is Leberecht!
As in Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher.
I think it sounds promising, how about you guys?
Cheers,
John.

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Here are two of my all-time favourite locos;


Weinert T9.3


Weinert T13

Both pictured rather incongruously on my American layout, in lieu of Leberecht being very unphotogenic.

I must admit - these are both ready to run items, not built by me but by the factory! I dearly wish I could claim that I have built them but no, I am not that good a modeller!
The T13 I won on German ebay after I had been selling off my American 0 scale brass(!), which was how I could afford it. Now, I did do some modelling with this one as when I got hold of it, it was seized up having been presumably sat in a display case for several years. I stripped it down, cleaned and degreased it and re-lubricated it and when it was working well, I digitized it - it is still a little noisy but runs very well.
The T9.3 I won at an actual auction for a fair price, it also came with a 'free' Weinert V65! This runs well enough but still needs digitising and as a mate said, could do with its lights making working.
Funnily enough, I also have two Fleischmann T9.3's and one Trix T13 - these will be for exhibition use as no way would I take the Weinerts to a show.
So, I am a bit of a chequebook modeller but only when it suits me - the Trix T13, in particular, is a far cry from the Weinert one.
Cheers,
John.

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Not surprised they are your favorites John, i have similar ,sweet runners .Trouble is i need a Bavarian layout to build to run those on.   ,Have to crack on with "blossom Hill" first .     Thanks for sharing.  :thumbs

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Some progress, at last?
After building my baseboards, painting them and glueing on the initial underlay, modifying and fitting the turntable, I had come to a grinding halt. Family crises aside, such a delay can only be described as running out of steam!
Suddenly, my motivation and enthusiasm came back and I was able to contemplate the next job which is track laying.
I laid out some track, very loosely and pretty much according to my plans and I liked how it looked.
TRACK PICS






Next, I marked alongside the track for where the roadbed needs to go.
SKETCH PIC


Then, wouldn’t you know it? Late in the day, I discovered that my last bottle of ‘Copydex’ had dried up! So next day, off to the shops and resupplies purchased, in smaller bottles this time.
A couple of days work and the roadbed was more or less finished and I can start laying actual track.
ROADBED PIC.




I realised that it was pretty important to work out how to get power to traverser before laying any track so I set to and gave it some thought. The answer came to me in a flash of inspiration when I realised that I need two wires and I had two metal runners.
So, I soon made up some wires and connected it all together, a test run proved the concept worked although I don’t know if it will last well but I made a lot of connections to be as sure as possible.
TRAVERSER PICS





The traverser fully prepared for track.
Until next time,

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Looking good John :thumbs


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Thanks, Terry!

Thanks also to "Alan" for making my picture of my little Prussian 0-8-0T 'Picture of the week' for this week!
I'm flattered.
Cheers,
John.

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Allegheny1600 wrote: Thanks, Terry!

Thanks also to "Alan" for making my picture of my little Prussian 0-8-0T 'Picture of the week' for this week!
I'm flattered.
Cheers,
John.


John, when I first started in the hobby at the age of 16 my first loco  was a Fleischmann 0-6-0 and it was superb compared to what was available ex the UK of Hornby Dublo & Tri-ang.

Always had a thing about European steam & electric locos.

So yes, congrats on  getting the top spot for a while :thumbs

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Thanks, Sol!
Yes, the backbone of my fleet is Fleischmann, especially coaching stock - they have improved considerably too, since the days of H-D and Tri-ang. I used to have an F/mann sound fitted Bavarian S3/6 Pacific and you could tell inside (hp) cylinder beats from outside (lp) cylinders, amazing.

Anyway, here is the traverser with all tracks glued down and electrical connections made,
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With a train on and almost ready to go,
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I had to reduce the track height at the entrance to the traverser very slightly so used some thin copper-clad sleepers and while I was at it, I added a re-railer section, I have tested it and it does work. This is only needed while I have not yet built a locking mechanism to keep each traverser track in perfect alignment with the exit track.
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I don’t know if you can really see from this picture but the baseboard adjacent to the traverser, had suffered a slight distortion. It was simply too much up and down movement for my little trains to cope with so I cut out the entire foam roadbed out and inserted a finely sanded down piece of curved plywood in place, then re-laid the roadbed, it’s not absolutely level but much better now.
Serves me right for not using the very best plywood available.
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As you can see from here, I still had to glue some thin strips of card under the track.
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I believe that it is bad practice to cross baseboard joins on a curve?
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Sadly, it was unavoidable here, I have used soldered copper-clad sleepers again to reinforce the crossing, I really hope that will be sufficient. At the moment, these are not cut through but they will have to be when time comes to split the boards.Thanks to a colleague on a forum who made the suggestion of having a removable section of track, this is how I plan to overcome this problem, probably the four copper-clad sleepers and four plastic ones on either side, complete with road bed and attached to a thin piece of plywood.
Cheers for now,
John.

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John, I had a turnout cut for a liftup.



and had no problems....

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Beautiful engine. Well worthy of Picture Of The Week.

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Hi John,

The problem with running across baseboards at right angles is the temptation to get too close to the edge. Minimum of whatever it takes for a train to come off the tracks and not fall off - usually 2" from the rail head. Three or 4" is better. A triangular fill screwed in place solves the problem, and if you give it a curved edge looks better. Try not to have pointwork within 6" of a join. Those that do usually regret it.

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Thanks, Guys!
Nigel, great ideas thank you! Yes, I am going to build a triangular board to fit this tight corner, if I can arrange it just right, the (public) backscene will run along it and across the layout, hiding the traverser.
Sadly, the track plan and my lack of space, forced me to place that point within a couple of inches from the baseboard edge, fingers crossed here.
Cheers,
John.

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Oh! Another month or more has passed but at least, I have my initial track laid and (very) roughly wired in.


Looking towards the turntable and loco shed.


Looking along the line of wagons towards where the quarry will be, on left.
Here, you can also see where the wall mounted display unit, has been raised by about 8 inches. This gives a fairly level ‘clear area’ for the future backscene.
Believe it or not, raising this unit took a full days work, partly due to having to move and clear, adjacent shelves.


Turning the corner, quarry behind.


Onto the traverser.


I think I have left this picture as a link - if you look closely at the enlarged image on Flickr, you can just see where I fitted the Kadee undertrack magnets. I did some testing and although they will still attract metal axles, they are sunk a little deeper than normal to try and reduce that effect, while still giving reliable uncoupling.

I have spent a few days testing the track (of course!) and these big modern diesels worked fine.




What I hadn’t counted on was the superb current carrying (& storing) capacity of these superb ESU diesels, they just rolled straight over any dead sections as though they weren’t there.
Try even a big 0-10-0T let alone a tiny 0-6-0T and they stall all over the place!
So, I now have to split the boards and turn everything over in order to fit point motors and micro-switches in order to feed the dead sections. Only then will I be able to properly test the layout with the small steam power for which this layout was designed.
Cheers,
John

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Oops! Another too long a break between updates.
To be frank, although there has been some progress, it has been of the brain numbing variety, which is why I’ve found it difficult to discuss it much.
Once I had all the track laid and running moderately successfully, I gave the layout a bit of a shake down and was quite pleased with it. This did show that I needed to get the points motorised in order to be able to get the electrofrogs energised, so that my small steam locos can operate with some reliability.
Splitting the boards with a view to working on them upside down, I realised that I needed to protect the ends of the track. My usual way of doing this is with ‘C&L’ track end protectors but it had been a long time since I used one. So, being less than careful, I managed to break the first two of my 12 that I had in stock, until I got the hang of bending them again.

Some filing.

Ready for soldering.
Then, I made a horrible discovery: I actually needed not 12 but 24 of these little blighters! Not only that but they were out of stock at C&L and everywhere else I could think of that might sell them, including eBay. I placed a “wanted” ad on one of my favourite forums and thankfully, a kind soul helped me out.
Having received another six packets of these things, I set to work, cutting them out of their frets, cleaning them up, adjusting them so I can bend them to my specification, bending them, soldering and finally cleaning them up, it was then that I realised I now had too many!!!
Yes, I need 24 in total not an additional 24, stupid man! D’oh! Oh well, they will come in handy for any future plans.

Too many!
Now it came time to fit them to my boards/track and I realised that I could use a 16mm Forstner bit to help set them into my timber. I do have the same size flat wood bit but the Forstner bit makes a much better job and I find, easier to control.

Prepping.
However, this meant an additional delay while this new tool arrived so I started something else;
The station building!
Here is my Kibri 39492 “Bahnhof Reichelsheim” station building with it’s main component parts laid out;


A little bit of ‘Googling’ revealed that a similar building was built of yellow brick so I thought that would make a pleasant change from the supplied red brick so I set about a repaint. This also means that I must also repaint the loco shed, of course.
I also needed to paint the window frames as white window frames is a much more ‘modern’ thing. I chose dark brown ‘Oak Beams’ as a suitable colour as that appears to be similar to the pictured building and I have no way of knowing for sure what the original might be.
Cheers,
John.

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I've not seen those track protectors, John.

Could you put up a shot of them installed, please?

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MaxSouthOz wrote: I've not seen those track protectors, John.

Could you put up a shot of them installed, please?

Cheers

Hi John,
I've not seen them before  either so a picture of them in situ would be great. - I just use brass screws with the track soldered to them but they look like a good idea particularly if the baseboards are moved regularly.

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Thanks, Guys!
That will be my next objective: to be able to show these off!
Just busy, busy at the moment, getting ready for a big trade fair for my business, as soon as that is over, it will be full speed ahead on the layout.
Cheers,
John.

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With my business commitments dealt with, I determined to take some time to myself!
So, on with these darned track end protectors (TEP).


Here is a group of them during the fitting process.


And, completed!

Maybe you might like to see how I go about this process in detail?


Firstly, I use a finished TEP to roughly mark on the end of the baseboard where it is to go, not forgetting to mark the centre point with a slim pencil mark. Then I use a rule to average out and true up any irregularities and then use a set square to line up with the rail. This gets me quite close but things still ‘move’ later on.
You can see the 16mm Forstner bit waiting to be used, just above my marking out.


Having used the Forstner bit to drill out approximately 1.5mm of timber, you can see it leaves a much ‘flatter’ and neater base to the hole than a regular flat wood bit would leave. Notice the next two tools waiting to be used - recently sharpened wood chisels. Note: These were just posed for the picture, I would normally keep the blades sheaved until actual use as these tools are very dangerous indeed.


Initial chopping with the ½ inch Firmer chisel.


After cleaning up with the ¼ inch bevel chisel.


Don’t forget to drill through the timber to allow a wire to pass through.


TEP screwed into position. I used very small 2mm diameter, 10mm long furniture screws. I prefer screws to pins as they are more stable.


Rail soldered to the TEPs and track feeds fed through and also soldered.
That’s it!

Total time to complete this one track (two rails/TEPs) would be maybe ten minutes, now repeat for each time a track crosses a baseboard joint! A decent afternoons work, complete with tea breaks (I am English!), back-ache breaks etc.

Now confident that I can handle the boards a little more ‘normally’, without dreading that I may catch something and rip out rails, I can get on with the wiring.


Here is the first board away from the traverser board, which had been wired a while ago now.
Cheers for now,
John.

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Carrying on with my wiring work, I took advantage of the nice weather and worked outside, under the gazebo as it was simply too hot in direct sunlight!



Here is the turntable board, again with a simple C shaped bus as that is sufficient for all the track feeds on this section. Almost out of shot is the first (Conrad) point motor that I installed.



Now fitting the point motors on the ‘busiest’ board. I think you can just see my pencil marks where I plotted the alignment of the point above then it was a simple case of lining the motor along these lines and getting the actuation lever in the right position and voila! Screw the motor into position and set the actuation wire, I always use the thicker wire supplied.



I knew that my micro switches would need elevating from the baseboard surface so I found a piece of strip wood that would just slip under the motor actuating lever and got them prepared.



Fitting the micro switches into position, all that was required was to ensure the point motor actuation lever was able to operate the micro switch arm. Curiously, I had some smaller switches in stock but these larger switches seemed to work better.



Having now done most of the physical work under the boards, it was now time to fit a full wiring bus. As this final board is quite busy, I made full loops all the way around the perimeter of the board. Here we have most of the track feeds in position, later I realised that I had missed a couple of track feeds when doing the droppers, despite drilling holes for them.



Just a close up of the above, you can actually see one of the holes where a track feed should go!



Looking a bit more complex now.
Most importantly, the Lenz LS150 accessory decoder is now fitted along with connections to all the points, including the point on an adjacent board and the micro switches are all fed from the bus and to the point crossing vee. My good friend Les, gave me some assistance with making the micro switch connections as all I could reliably do was the ‘common’ feed to the vee. Without Les’ help with identifying which of the red/black wires goes where on the micro switch, using an electrical tester, I would have spent ages trying first one way, then the other - I really am that electrically incompetent so “Thanks” to Les!
Also, the bus feed and inter-board connections are also fitted. I probably over engineered these as they are sections of heavy duty HiFi speaker cable soldered to both outputs of HiFi/video Phono plugs and sockets, red and black to correspond with the bus colours.



Nearly done now, thankfully.
I had no idea this job would take quite so long! Principally because I have never gone so far with a project such as this - all my previous layouts have either been simple power routing though the point or ready built.
If I had tried to wire a layout like this using traditional analogue methods, I would have been stumped as it would have been too much for me. Using a bus to provide two wires to each piece of track - that I can deal with!
I would say that I worked for an average of over six hours a day for ten days, doing this - I am sure that others, more experienced and who know what they are doing, would be much faster. But, I am satisfied with this and bar one minor adjustment to one point, everything worked first time.
Must be beginners luck!
Cheers,
John.

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Having apparently completed all my wiring work, my attention now turned to ensuring that my current smallest loco will work on the layout. The whole point of a small layout being the use of small locos, surely?
The machine I am speaking of is a Trix T3 0-6-0 tank engine and ‘cute’ is a fair description of this one as it is only 98mm (4”) long. I had read on German forums of a trick to alter the rigid suspension and as, on it’s previous test it had not performed sufficiently well for me anyway so I resolved to do some work on it.


Here is the chassis stripped right down to its bare bones. Please ignore the metal rod poking out of the top - it’s just a sharpened sewing machine needle that I use as a fine scribe but here, it is balancing the chassis on its side for the picture.


The loco is powered via its rear axle so that must be left alone but I made marks on the chassis approx 1mm above the bearing area.


Then I carefully filed away material of the chassis (bearings), to the depth of my marks. Note that the centre axle has a recess for a spring. Yes, the Trix T3 does have a sprung centre axle! (I had read that it doesn’t). You can now see why the chassis has to be stripped right down as you really don’t want metal filings getting into the motor or the gears.


Simply checking that the filing work is done.


Testing the rolling chassis. A point to note here is that clipping the plastic keeper plate on now is a bad idea as the gears still need to be added and one of their securing pins is not accessible with the wheels secured by the keeper plate. Fortunately, finding this out the hard way didn’t cost too much time but it did result in more handling of the delicate valve gear - which caused stress!


Rebuilding the motor/gears and circuitry. I had noticed the original pick-up wires were slightly too thick and had become trapped by the body so I replaced them.

Now I was ready for an electrical then driving test - not so much a disaster, just a damp squib!
Reading the decoder/loco on my programming track - nothing was working at all, it was completely dead. Was it the decoder or what? No, the decoder was fine.
Changing the decoder for a blanking plug and testing on my analogue track showed there was a very intermittent electrical contact - somewhere.
I used a ‘buzzer’ to check all the pick-ups and slowly narrowed the problem down to the 21 pin decoder socket. It seemed that some or all of these very fine pins were loose, something that I don’t recall previously finding. I decided that tinning all these pins with solder might do the trick and it did.


The offending 21 pin connector with solder tinning.

Having re-fitted the decoder and testing on the programming track, everything appeared fine electrically. At last, I could test run the little T3 on my layout and I’m very pleased to report that she performed very well indeed - as a chassis. Confirming that all appeared well, I now had to add thread lock to the tiny nuts that held the valve gear in place, secure the wiring and put the body back on. This more than doubles the weight of the loco to 125 grams, so better testing can be carried out.


Here she is crawling over a point without hesitation at speed step 1.


It’s difficult to tell and there is really not that much movement but here she is riding over a shallow obstacle, a scalpel blade.
I think she’s ready for service.
Cheers,
John.


                 

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