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Quick question on Printing Scalescenes Windows on transparent film.

These windows come in Black colour.
I have no problem in printing them but is there any way to change the black to some other colour ?


I just can't figure it out  :oops:


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I've tried printing other colours on acetate sheet and very few are really visible when fitted in  a building, there are ways of changing the colour but they would involve editing the PDF files which are protected, there are ways round that but not exactly legal; I prefer to use etched brass windows (Peedie models and one or two other firms) paint them any colour: alternatively draw the frames on acetate sheet using paint markers (like felt tips but loaded with paint) you can either print in black then go over the black with your preferred colour, or use a ruler to draw them.



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Agree with Mike about etched windows.  I've used Brassmasters:

 http://www.brassmasters.co.uk/etched_windows.htm

which are designed specifically to suit Scalescenes.

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Thanks for the info Mike & John.Much obliged.
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Must admit nowadays I mostly scratch build and design to fit Peedie etches, I'll use Metcalfe, Scalescenes or other kits as guidelines for such things as building heights and basic outlines. Usually work with embossed plasticard and cut it with a plotter cutter.


The bay windows and dormers are cast white metal from Scalelink



Chimney stacks rectangular section plastic covered in brick paper, pots from plastic tube painted. Gutters "P" section plastic, downpipes plastic rod, barge boards, window cills and lintels plastic strip



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If you print out in black and immediately after the sheet leaves the printer, dust very liberally with talcum powder. Leave to dry completely [1 hour is fine] and blow/dust off with a very soft brush. Not only does it give a slightly 'raised' effect, but makes the black a subtle faded grey colour, much less 'plasticky'. If you are feeling brave, then try rubbing with the side of a brown/dark watercolour pencil [used dry], it'll either colour the print area or rub it off. Any marks left by the pencil on the acetate can be wiped off with a damp cotton bud.



Also see here...post 14 has a better illustration of the 'grey' frames...

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=5859&forum_id=14&highlight=ringwell

Incidently, Metcalfe models pre-printed white window frames can be altered to any colour by using a dry water colour pencil on them, held at a low angle, again, and excess wiped off carefully with a damp cotton bud.

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Here's a link to coloured Metcalfe pre-printed windows...yellow watercolour pencil.

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=6068&forum_id=15&highlight=pub+kit+bash

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If I'm drawing window frames on acetate I use oil based paint markers, also handy for "painting/" etched doors, gates, fences etc, you can get ones that do a line under 1mm thick, up to thick chisel pointed ones.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_2_13?url=search-alias%3Doffice-products&field-keywords=paint+markers&sprefix=paint+markers%2Caps%2C150&crid=2Q1HJ7CTQEVYA



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Hi Guys!

Amdaly,
Print out your chosen windows, photocopy them, load them into your graphics programme.



Invert them, print them on white paper, cut out the black bits, stick in window opening with clear acetate behind them.



No! it's not illegal if you work from your own photocopy but you could ask john Wiffen if he objects first.

Alternatively either print out in monochrome or line art in CMYK with a white PIGMENT ink, You will need a dedicated cartridge in the black cartridge slot or a monochrome printer with the white cartridge.
When you have your print cut out the black bits and mount the frames between the inner face of the window opening and a piece of acetate. If you print on acetate using the white cartridge in the black slot and don't invert you get white frames. Simply using your  fill colour tool in something like photoshop prints whatever colour you choose.
About the only other colour you will find is brown and if you want something other you will need to light the interior of the model or it will not show up.

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Trying to imagine cutting out some of those "black bits" Jim, reminded me just how much I like black window frames ............... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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I eventually got it by using Microsoft Publisher.I set up simple two pane windows in Publisher & adjusted the size until they fitted the Scalescenes window size.
I then printed them out in the colour I wanted & it seemed to work ok for me.
I tried out various other methods but I simply couldn't get it to work.


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Petermac said

Trying to imagine cutting out some of those "black bits" Jim, reminded me just how much I like black window frames ............... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
No one said it was "EASY" :twisted: :twisted:

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Amdaly said

I eventually got it by using Microsoft Publisher.I set up simple two pane windows in Publisher & adjusted the size until they fitted the Scalescenes window size.
I am fortunate in that I have AutoCAD and I draw and print
things like this with that and as far as Petermac's comment goes this is why I have a sihouette cutter. It may be expensive but it makes life a lot simpler.

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