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 Posted: Fri May 29th, 2020 12:46 am
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As I have started to fit the third rail, I thought I ought get some electrics to run it..... and they duly arrived today.
Firstly a 4CEP from Bachmann..... A lovely model with great detail which puts my older models to shame.




And a 2EPB (later class 416) which is the second class only shuttle service to Sittingbourne (thank you Keith, the timetable you sent indicated that one)


Both trains just unpacked and placed on track for inspection and a photograph.  The lack of yellow warning panels dates them before 1963, although the East Kent line was a bit of a backwater and updates came slowly, so it could be later.  I think BR blue had come into force before all of the stock had made it to green!

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And a busy time modelling Abbey Street, the road from the creek  to the town square.....


Now, before you comment on the modelling (and the dodgy placement)....I should explain.  These are half relief buildings which are against the back scene with a path (the base of which is visible) and a road.  To  get an idea of what to make, I took photographs of various buildings in Abbey Street ( which is much longer than I can model) and from the town square as well as a few other buildings I like.  I then mounted these photographs onto a half relief shell.  I find this helps me to create the scene and also gives some interest while I get around to making models of the actual buildings. A quick and easy way to fill some space and carry out some town planning, and as you can see, they can look quite effective and don't look like the flat photos that they are..  I size them to an approximate scale, using the doors as a reference, although I don't think any of them are what you might call standard, so I may have to take Mabel for a walk (that's our dog, not my wife) and surreptitiously take some measurements for the final models...










And finally an East Kent bus on what will become the road. 



Clearly a lot of model making to come, but at least I can get on with landscaping and running trains with an idea of the buildings in place.

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Time to start some landscaping, so out came the bits of foam I have been keeping from packaging and the faithful modroc.  The scenic boards are all removable so that I can work on them at my bench.


And I checked it all.....

Dover, a Schools Class loco steaming through the cutting



Sadly it is an old DC Tender driven loco, so I don't expect it will appear at Faversham because it won't be chipped.  But it can come out for the odd photo.

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Soooo the young lady standing outside the visitor centre in the picture. . . Is she one of the models your taking measurements of without your wife ?  :mutley.  Just checking. . . I'm easily confooosed  :)

Interesting watching it being put together :thumbs and I'm looking forward to seeing the end result in situe

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Barchester wrote: Soooo the young lady standing outside the visitor centre in the picture. . . Is she one of the models your taking measurements of without your wife ?  :mutley.  Just checking. . . I'm easily confooosed  :)

Interesting watching it being put together :thumbs and I'm looking forward to seeing the end result in situe

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She will be delighted to be called young lady...... that IS my wife!   :mutley

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I am beginning to realise why the vistas of the station/warehouses and the hotel look so realstic and natural. 
The preplanning you do is very impressive....no wonder the completed scenes look so good

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As John has said Michael your pre planning does make yours scenes much more realistic.

Re the tender drive schools class they are very easy to put a decoder in Michael, im no fan of tender drives but i have some and they do work as well on dcc as Dc with a decoder a very easy conversion to do.
If i were doing one today i would buy one of those Lais dcc chips with a stay alive fitted to it not an expensive decoder but will make it run a bit better if converted.


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Thank you John.. although the pre-planning is really because I can never visualise things in my head, so it is a necessity rather than some sort of method.  Some people can sketch something out and they know what it will look like, whereas I have to model the model, as it were. Having said that, now that I have found a away that works for me, I rather enjoy the process.  It does mean that mental plans change, once I have something physical.  For example, I originally planned for the cutting to be quite a steep grassy bank, perhaps with small trees, something like this: Golgotha Tunnel on the East Kent Light Railway




But now I am leaning more towards a more bare rock face as I think it will suit the cutting better and will break up colours a little.... otherwise there would be a lot of green...So still like Golgotha, but with some of that greenery removed revealing the rock below.  The geology of Kent, and in particular the area around Faversham, means that it could be of Kentish Ragstone, chalk or even brick clay, as in the real setting the original line to the creek passed one of Faversham's brick works and and pit.  

Hopefully, having the street scene mock up in place will also mean I don't get impatient and rush to build the models, only to be disappointed and have to make them again!

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Thank you Brian.  
It's interesting that the Schools can be chipped.... From my limited research, I was rather under the impression that tender drives are a nightmare to convert.  Although I must say that what might be simple to you will be a Herculean effort for me in that department... I celebrate victory when I solder a dropper wire to track!  Still, I shall look into it now...

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I started on the rock face for the cutting, but when it was finished it looked more like a mini canyon in Colorado than a small cutting in rural Kent!  So it was back to the original plan..... progress so far:






I still have the first section to grass, then the tunnel mouth and small section of cutting, before I can add a bit more detailing like plants and bushes, but I am happy with it so far.  As this is quite a big section of scenery on the layout, it feels like a big step forward, although the temporary buildings give the impression that I have made more progress than is actually the case.

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Lovely scenic work Michael, a great idea to have photos while you build all the models. They give a great feel for how it will come out, an idea I'm going to "borrow" to help finish off the back scenes at W-H where there are a whole swag of half-relief buildings resting in the semi-permanent "to be done" department.

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Thanks Colin. The scenery needs a bit of a tidy up, there are rogue grass strands clinging on, but they will come off easy enough with a toothbrush, once it is all properly dry.  
I've used photos from the internet before and stuck them to the front of boxes (those that hold cat food pouches are a pretty good scale size) for whole buildings if I am trying to work out space, and I did that at the very start when planning Faversham.  But they were just rough and quickly dispensed with.  Taking my own photos was definitely better (just point and click with the phone, nothing fancy) and I'm surprised at the effect.  I rather wish I had shaped the roofs now, so that might be something you could try.  I think it would make the overall effect even better for relatively little effort.

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What a difference a bit of grass makes !!  That looks great Michael and well thought out with the road and houses in the background.

I too think your use of mock-ups is a very clever move - one I can see "going viral" when other members realise how easy it would be to visualise ones future plans.  Certainly, with your permission,  it will be "borrowed" for use in France ................... :cheers



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Thank you Peter.  Yes, it is amazing how a bit of grass can transform a scene.  It's a bit like a magic wand! And I'm certainly no expert.
The photo technique came about totally because of my inability to imagine a scene in 3d.  If it is of use to others for their own reasons then we have all made a step forward.  But viral?  I don't see me making my fortune on YouTub just yet!!

Were the extension bars effective?

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I haven't tried them in anger yet Michael.

I had planned to solder them but it seems the rod, for some reason, won't take solder so it's superglue.  They're slightly larger bore than the SEEP rods so it's not easy to keep everything straight.  I may have to construct some kind of jig.

Hopefully, on the two I've done so far, the bond will be strong enough and my glueing straight enough for them to work.  Maybe later today, or tomorrow will tell .......................................my mate the weather forecast, had promised some rain but he's let me down and Liz is insisting we need a new summer cover for the pool.  Now that we're allowed out of our foxholes, I've lost my excuse and may have to go and organise one today.  That will take up a large part of the afternoon.



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Ah!  I was a bit worried that might be the case.  Still, nothing ventured, nothing gained, as they say!
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I'm going to make up a jig tomorrow Michael.

The brass tube is really short and doesn't have much grip on the rod so it's difficult to keep things in line.  Maybe the Hornby point rod is a slightly larger diameter although the rod supplied in the pack is also a loose fit in the tube.

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Its amazing how quickly static grass can transform a scene.  Are you going to give it a little push so the grass is "standing to attention"? 



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Hi Chris, it is the proverbial PITA to get grass to stand up straight on a bank.... this is just the base coat at the moment, a mix of 2mm and 4mm grass - I needed to see if it would look ok or whether I was going to have to remake the boards again in a different way.  Once I have finished some of the other scenic parts it will get a second covering which is slightly easier to get to grow upwards, but not a lot!
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Work has meant I have not had as much time on the layout, but I've managed to do the tunnel and a little more to the scenery around it.... 



The tunnel is Linka.  I went old school this time and cast in plaster.  It cut surprisingly well for the tunnel mouth.  The grass has had its first coat - this is "Spring" grass..... Once I have completed a bit more - the road and the ballasting, for example, I will add some other colours for variation, and then soften it all with some "dead grass" and "dry grass" mixes, before adding some vegetation.

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