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 Posted: Fri Jun 28th, 2019 07:10 pm
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Well what you have done looks great to me. I know nothing about real railways either, I’m just making it up as I go. 
My general rule for Teasel is that unless it is the track nothing is flat! There has to be some type of relief. Also look at Penhayle on here as it was an amazing layout!!!



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Thank you Chris.

Yes, Penhayle is great, and John Dew also knows how to create a scene.... in fact there are loads of great examples here, with people willing to share their skills and knowledge, which is why I joined.  Even then it took me a couple of years to get started and risk posting my efforts!

I'm glad I'm not the only railway ignoramus here, although I am trying to learn a little bit.  I want the trains to reflect the southern region of BR, but to paraphrase Eric Morecombe, they will be the right trains, just not in the right order!

And despite my best efforts to plan, I am definitely making it up as I go along.  Only last night I realised I had no idea as to how as I am actually going to fit the Creek scene I have planned.....  Oh well, another challenge!

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Which one is Jon? I had to check as there is another Jon (Stuckey) who does this one which I like: https://www.facebook.com/groups/576313559060209/?ref=share



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John Dew of Granby Junction - you can't have missed it here!

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Headmaster wrote: John Dew of Granby Junction - you can't have missed it here!

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You called? :lol:



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Hi Michael

Couldnt resist the one liner.  Thank you for all the recommendations......I think you flatter me somewhat.

I have been meaning to write for a few days to congratulate you on the second warehouse. It looks brilliant. I do agree with you about replacing the printed doors with scratch built plasticard...........they look so much better. Scalescene printed woodwork never looks entirely convincing.

I am very impressed at the speed with which you are producing these high quality models. It takes me for ever as I drift from project to project. I do admire your focus.

What jarred with the Goods Shed. I have never made the model but it looked very good in your photos. It must have been frustrating to can it after all that work. Will you be able to use it somewhere else on the layout? It would be shame to waste all that precision cutting.

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Praise where praise is due John!

For one thing, all of the goods shed's walls butted at the corners and there was a strange part in the cover layers.  I thought I had done it wrong, but no.....

Secondly, while in my head the buildings would all go together, it started to look cluttered.... and I was filling space and losing the overall effect I wanted.  But it's ok, I have shortened on of the sidings a little to give the warehouse a bit of space and I have repurposed a platform to give me an opportunity to do some detailing and try to bring the scene to life.  

I  might be able to use it elsewhere, so hopefully not wasted.... but then I learn something new with each new model I make.

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Headmaster wrote: John Dew of Granby Junction - you can't have missed it here!

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Ah yes, indeed!



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The warehouse build is completed and interiors and lights are finished.  Roof is fitted and so on with the tiling.  This is one I made myself from free textures downloaded and then simply scaled and stitched together in Word, then printed off on photo paper.  I have done this a few times.  Some of the walls and the vegetable garden flooring at the hotel were made in the same way.  At least this way, it makes a building kit a little individual.....



One side done, and trimmed.  When it is fully dry I will cut in the individual tiles.



And detailing stock is almost ready..... once I have a platform!  Some figures are on order, but I'm disappointed at the lack of choices....




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I've been experimenting with backscenes too. I haven't managed to find something I like yet.... although this one is getting there.  It's not quite as focussed as my previous one, but I think I quite like that.  It will have to do a 5 metre run, with an incline, so it is going to be tricky.  But I think it will give the right overall effect, even if it isn't great quality




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Well done Michael its looking pucker.

The backscenes are always going to be a compromise especially as you have the same problem as me the angled roof i think the secret is if you have the space you need to put trees bushes etc to act a transition area between 3d layout and 2d backscene.

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Hi Brian

Thankfully on this run of the layout, there are no slopes.  I printed the same back scene as I have at the creek end, just to get an idea, and because it is in good quality photograph, it is very photorealistic.  But, when I started to put models and trees in front of it I had two visual problems:

1. The difference in scale shows up quite significantly.  I could disguise it on the slope, but the grass at the front and bushes would be very, very tall!  I also need to get some extra height - it I raise the photo on the backscene, it is really out of scale.

2. The second is actually a bigger problem.  The models - whether scenery, or buildings or people look like..... models, compared to the backscene.  At first it looks quite good, but then I start to notice the backscene more than the model.

So I am experimenting with using a lower quality photograph... it is still a photograph, but not quite so obviously one and I'm hoping it will complement the scenes rather than dominate them.  We will see!

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Great workmanship Michael .  jolly well done.   Thanks for sharing. :thumbs



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Thank you Reg!

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Tiles have  been individually cut now, and weathering added.



And a dusting for the rest of the model.  I use artist pastel chalks.  A light dusting, then work in with brushes.  Any white lines from the window arches are therefore easily disguised.



While not a copy, this is the sort of building at Faversham Creek that I am aiming for.....





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Headmaster wrote: Praise where praise is due John!

For one thing, all of the goods shed's walls butted at the corners and there was a strange part in the cover layers.  I thought I had done it wrong, but no.....

Secondly, while in my head the buildings would all go together, it started to look cluttered.... and I was filling space and losing the overall effect I wanted.  But it's ok, I have shortened on of the sidings a little to give the warehouse a bit of space and I have repurposed a platform to give me an opportunity to do some detailing and try to bring the scene to life.  

I  might be able to use it elsewhere, so hopefully not wasted.... but then I learn something new with each new model I make.

Regards

Michael

Butt joints?  Thats not like John Wiffen, he normally goes to great lengths to conceal them. Not sure if you have seen his updates to the Scratch builders Building Materials? They use to be just sheets of bricks or dressed stone.......very handy for patching etc but a bit limited.......now they are a 4 page kit with all manner of matching trim for doors and windows......and a possible solution for you.......quoins....perfect for hiding joints

If you havent done so already its worth checking out.

Sorry to hear you are still struggling to get working people for the warehouse. Who did you opt for in then end?

Best wishes

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Hi John

I went for some figures from Modelu and Hardy's Hobbies in the end.  Workmen and shop keepers!  I think they will work...…

The roof is now finished, the platform added, guttering done and the doors have been made to look a little more individual.

Just need to do the downpipes, finish the wall at the front of the platform and can then get it in place.







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Thats excellent......you have every right to be very proud of that build
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And here it is, pretty much finished.




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Cracking good stuff Michael.  Loving the contents of the crates - fruit and veg?  I have used the laser cut crates and, like you, find them to be super little models although a it fiddly!!

I was going to suggest Modelu for figures - they seem to do poses that others don't.  I would also consider looking into the wargames world where I have found that figures such as artillery crews offer up useful poses.  There is a company called Zvezda (Russian I think) who do sets of 3 or 4 figures for their "board" game wargame.  The sets are supposed to represent a troop type and cost about £5.  Careful selection is required to avoid your goods yard looking like a military coup!!

This is a German 105mm gun crew - (apologies for the poor quality photo) - some of the guys just in shirt sleeves are firemen on some of my locomotives.  Not sure that the local Locomotive Superintendent has found out yet!


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