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Nice trees, Michael.

What great materials we have available today.  :thumbs



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We do indeed!  And it is good that there are companies out there developing them - definitely keeping the hobby going

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Looks smart Michael the sea foam really sets it off you can add more leaf foliage if you want just b using spray glue then sprinkling or dipping it. What glue did you use to affix the sea foam?

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Thanks Brian.  Yes, the addition of different foliage does bring them to life.

I glue the seafoam on with something called Hi-Tack very sticky glue.  It is great in both hot and cold conditions, so ideal for my loft.  Sometimes I add a small dot of Gorilla super glue gel, just to give it a bit of permanence.  I attach the foliage with extra strong hairspray from Superdrug - It cost a little over a pound, and goes a long way.  I have started on some apple trees - I will get some photos up when they are finished...

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Well, I haven't updated recently, mainly because I have been experimenting and practising a few things - with mixed success!  Anyway, the sidings at the creek end, next to the hotel are laid, wired, point motors fixed and programmed (not difficult, but I always forget how to do it).  Uncoupling magnets fitted and seem to be working - at least with my limited rolling stock.  The actual creek will be fitted to the front of the baseboard once everything is finished, otherwise I won't be able to easily reach the rear of the scene for further work.



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So, Faversham Creek began with a small cameo scene in the corner, based on the novel, The Virgin and the Gypsy.  The warehouses at the Creek, and the working sidings have finally arrived..... over a year later, I think!






These may not be the final buildings, nor their location, but it gives a flavour of how it might start to look



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Looking down the newly fixed tracks.....





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And a little rolling stock has arrived.  A Q1, ventilated wagon for fresh fruit and vegetables from the Garden of England and a Shepherd Neame wagon taking Spitfire to London..... 





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The small goods area, next to the hotel - which has seen some grass grow around it




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And finally a view from the Abbey ruins, looking across the hotel to the goods yard.  In its heyday in the 1800s, this would have been a busy and noisy place.  But by the 1960s, it is a much more serene place.  Fishing, shrimping and oyster …(fishing? Collecting?  not sure what the term is!) are still important, but "imports and exports" are now greatly reduced and something of a welcome spectacle for visitors to the hotel.....





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Tomorrow I will add some more grass to the scene and low level weeds and bushes.  Then plant some trees and make my new cyclists to pedal through the countryside.  I have some fencing to fit and I need to make another hedge as a boundary from the rose garden.  I need to make a road from the hotel, which will also be used by traffic to the goods yard and decide on how I will surface the remaining area.  I had planned on using clay and scribing cobbles or paving - like I have done with surfaces at the hotel - but it now seems like a lot of space to fill.  And I need to think of some scenes to create around the buildings and lineside.  I wish I had John Dew's eye for details.....  Finding appropriate figures is proving tricky.  

I'm getting a bit ahead of myself, but I also want a fishing boat for the creek.  As it will be centre stage and in the foreground, it will need to be quite detailed and authentic.  There doesn't seem to be much available at OO gauge scale.....  Faversham still builds and restores Thames Barges, which were a main feature of the creek (I believe we are the only place offering apprenticeships in the art of Thames Barge building, but I may have believed the town hype!) There is a Billings model at scale 1/64 - would that be too large? That might be an alternative to a fishing boat.

Well, that is it for the update for now  - all feedback, good and bad gratefully received.

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Thank you Sol.  The kadees and magnets have taken a bit of time to get right.  Rolling stock with metal wheels and weights caused some frustration, which I have solved by putting a small piece of sponge against the axle to act like a brake. Having decided to go with magnets under the track, positioning proved essential.  I should have gone with your 5 magnets between the rails..... Planning tracks and buildings together takes me a bit of time and waiting for things to dry properly always takes longer than I imagine.  But I am making slow and steady progress

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Very good progress there Michael the grass looks great looks like a lot of hours of work developing the sidings.
I dont know if its the photo angle but it seems a long reach across to your corner from your standing area?
What next a sound decoder for the Q1

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Headmaster wrote: Tomorrow I will add some more grass to the scene and low level weeds and bushes.  Then plant some trees and make my new cyclists to pedal through the countryside.  I have some fencing to fit and I need to make another hedge as a boundary from the rose garden.  I need to make a road from the hotel, which will also be used by traffic to the goods yard and decide on how I will surface the remaining area.  I had planned on using clay and scribing cobbles or paving - like I have done with surfaces at the hotel - but it now seems like a lot of space to fill.  And I need to think of some scenes to create around the buildings and lineside.  I wish I had John Dew's eye for details.....  Finding appropriate figures is proving tricky.  

Well, that is it for the update for now  - all feedback, good and bad gratefully received.

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Hi Michael

I think the sweeping panorama shot of the Hotel and ground combined with the goods yard is stunning. The hotel garden is a masterpiece. 

I like the track layout in the yard and the way the buildings have been positioned. They look just right.....no suggestion of being plonked

There is quite a lot of detail needed in the yard of course**. The challenge will be setting it up so that it conveys a sense of a once active yard but is now something of a backwater. You probably only need a few selected cameos to suggest some movement and equally important establish to the casual visitor your selected era....a definite time stamp.

You have to do this without it looking "busy". There is a wonderful sense of space about the layout which you dont want to lose. The late John Flann always used to tell me that " less is more".  Sound advice which I am afraid I sometimes ignored! Ido  tend to over detail but I can to some extent get away with it in an industrial setting.

You ask about figures......here is a list (usual disclaimer) which may be helpful

Initially I used Airfix/Dapol ....... they are inexpensive and quite well detailed but everyone has them and they are readily identifiable........useful in the backgound and for crowd scenes (which you dont want)

Monty's Models (part of Dart Castings) have a large range of well detailed white metal figures. There are lots on Granby and until a year ago they were my first call.

Now I tend to buy from Modelu ......3d resin printed from live scans. Some of the facial detail is less precise than Montys but the overall effect is more realistic. There are some super footplate figures leaning over cab sides for instance. The downside for me is the difference between diets in 2019 and 1947 is sometimes rather apparent! 

I have a number of cameos from Langley Models .......the castings are cruder but there is more interesting variety........the on line catalogue is worth looking at.....I have a vague memory of some models playing croquet........they certainly have a cricket team.

** Post is too long already ....my apologies........but I could give a few suggestions for yard detail if you wish.

Best wishes

John

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Thank you Brian.... I've added some longer grass today which has also toned down the green colour.  The sidings are very simple, and better modellers than me would have done it all much quicker, I'm sure.  But I was also learning about magnets and kadees  and thinking about buildings.  At the actual creek, the buildings are in rows and I want to try to capture that.  The far corner is tough to reach from the edge of the board, although I can reach all of the track and have been able to clean it so for most practical issues it will be fine.  If there is a real problem, I can actually get to it from behind.  The angled backscene is actually held in place by magnets and clips - although I would have to repair the corners, if that  happened.

Sound???   I am only just getting to grips with DCC....I'm happy if I can get a decoder into a DCC ready loco.  Maybe one for the more distant plans.

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Hi John - many thanks for your reply and the kind words.  

In the prototype, a lot of the Creek trade had moved to Whitstable harbour.  The creek transported all sorts of products (either in or out), from plant based goods, meat, livestock, milk, fertiliser, canned goods ,beer, bricks, cement.....but by the 60s it was all but over.  This has always been a re-imagining... (although I often think of having it as a modern day preserved line and tourist attraction - old buildings re-purposed and the creek offering pleasure rides.....)  Assuming I stick with the original idea, then you have it right.  There will be a bit of fishing, but most freight will be quite light.  So I need to try to capture the sense of a once busy place now at the start of its decline.  Perhaps the yard will not be as tidy as it once was... maybe a closed and boarded up warehouse or shed.... wildlife encroaching.  

But I do still want there to be some work going on.  I have good resources to deal with the quayside, boats (if I can find one!) and the fishing and oyster and shrimp dredging. But as to the rest of the yard, I don't really know... so I would genuinely welcome any suggestions and guidance.

Most freight on the Southern Region travelled at night - that won't go down well with the hotel customers!

I have airfix figures (some were converted to the Tintin characters mentioned earlier in the thread) and have used those you mention.  I will trawl back through the websites.  

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I forgot to mention John, I don't really intend to model open space, it just sort of happens.  I look at the business of your layout and wish I could do something similar!  No pleasing us is there?  But in this part of Kent it is a mixture of open countryside and small towns, so maybe that is why it is coming out the way it is!

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Hallelujah!  A day of testing track, points and uncoupling has proved very successful.  A few tweaks here and there and one disaster resolved..... but all working a treat now.  My very limited dancing skills now include the Kadee shuffle.  I never really realised how much fun shunting could be!! Certainly more skill involved than I anticipated.  I have been happily coupling and uncoupling, pushing and pulling wagons to different locations and even a bit of switching.  Great fun!

My heartfelt thanks to all of the contributors who have directly and indirectly helped me on my way and aided in me in discovering some new "skills" (I won't tempt fate by suggesting I have mastered anything yet.)  I really wouldn't have the beginnings of a model railway if it were not for everyone here   :cheers



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I also managed a bit of scenic work.  The hotel has progressed from this....



To this....








The first four apple trees have sprung up and a nice bike ride …..



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