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 Posted: Fri Jan 25th, 2019 09:06 pm
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This is the development of the Orangery for the hotel.  It will be like a conservatory at one end






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 Posted: Fri Jan 25th, 2019 09:12 pm
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Something like this....




I plan to have some tables and chairs inside, perhaps this time with people!!  And I shall attempt to model a vine growing inside.  A very dear friend of mine had a beautiful house with a conservatory with a 200 hundred year old vine in it, producing wonderful grapes.  Experts from Kew came to look after it.  It would be a nice remembrance on the layout.

No idea how to do it well though!  Any suggestions?

The Orangery will have a flat roof, with a feature centre piece which I hope will set it off.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 25th, 2019 09:15 pm
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I've just noticed the door!  This will actually lead into the Orangery - it isn't one of those classic design faults!!



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 Posted: Fri Jan 25th, 2019 09:34 pm
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Progress on the track has ground to a halt since I decided to include a turntable as I am now having a major re-think of what will go where.  In my original plan, the creek was going to be at the end, with a few sidings and warehouses - a small, but busy rendition of one of the quays.  But now that I want to put a turntable in, there is even less room and things were not quite working..... the feature was being restricted.  So, I have decided to relocate the hotel to the end, near the Abbey ruins - which makes much more sense, and will give me more space to create the gardens, perhaps with a jetty into the creek.  This will create a much more coherent scene.  So, the main run of the track will now feature the creek, perhaps representing two of the quays, with a simpler set of sidings which will provide a nice shunting puzzle.  This will then lead to the edge of the town, which is more prototypical overall.  The return of the loop was originally going to be nothing more than a fiddle yard, but this could now be landscaped so that I have a good run of countryside, which is something I wanted.  I will be able to set up a number of trains so that I can run a passenger and freight timetable when I finally get to the point of running trains.  

I will have to take up some of the existing track to make the changes... so I am laying things out in a multitude of different ways to make sure I get it right this time.

A wise modeller on this site advised that it is alright to change your plan as you progress.... and the contributors who have inspired me the most here have all changed things, so I hope I am in good company.

The one thing that I am really pleased about by making the changes is that I will have room to model more than one boat and I should now have room to include the boat builder's yard, which has a long tradition in Faversham.  Other things will have to go..... but this is the Creek railway, so that ought be the main feature, didn't it?

Please, anyone else who has changed their track plan after building, let me know I am doing the right thing!!

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Changes are great.  The final paragraph in the Peter Denny book "Buckingham Great Central";

"One of the greatest joys in railway modelling is, I find, in being able to alter the picture; it is rather like the painters of old who worked changes on to their canvasses, the only difference being that I cannot go back and uncover what was there before."

Rule 1 my friend, Rule 1.  If you like it, it's good.

BTW love the Orangery - a twisted wire armature for the vine and a load of patience with flock/scatter material would make the leaves.  Scale grapes?  I'm afraid that might be going a little too far but some of your people sitting at the tables with wine glasses would be good!

Mine's a Merlot please.

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What a great quotation, Barry.  Very inspiring!  And very reassuring  Thank you so much.  I had not thought of it terms of the great painters, but they did, and do it all of the time.
  
I saw the Hockney exhibition, using an ipad for his painting..... he kept changing things... angles, positions, colours, details until he was happy.  It was marvellous.  I had not thought of it like that until your post.  So thank you


I had not intended to model the grapes… but who knows what people might come up with.  I have made trees with twisted wire.... I might well have a go for the vine.  Foliage is the tricky part.

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The original Riverbank sidings on Newcastle Emlyn we’re ripped up and completely rebuilt as Llandyfriog Junction. I too agonised over the change but I’m much happier with it and thoroughly enjoyed the upgrade. Only added 6 months to the build.... which at my glacial pace is a mere snip in time :shock:.
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Hi Michael. Your work is excellent, but, even if I could build the models to your standards they would be too big for my modules/ planks, or there wouldn’t be any space remaining for the track and trains. Best wishes Kevin 



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Its surprising how much space a turntable actually requires but certainly worth adding when trying to qualify doing certain things that require scrapping certain scenic things i tend to take the view i am building a model railway not a model village.

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Thank you gentlemen for your replies  and wisdom.  I think I am ready to take the plunge to change the plan and start pulling up some of the laid track.  Maybe I've subconsciously known the original plan wasn't quite right which is why track laying has ground to a halt.  I hope there aren't tears at bedtime!!

Kevin, before I got going on Faversham, I built a couple of small 4x2 modules - mainly to just learn some skills.  Originally I thought I might join these modules together to form a layout, but that changed and I ended up ripping them up and salvaging some things.  But even on the small modules I managed to have a few buildings, even if not quite to the size of the Abbot's Hotel, which is easily the largest thing I have built to date.  I learned a lot from making those early models, enjoyed building them and the finished pieces added to the module - even if some of them were low relief.  But for me, one of the main reasons for having the layout is to make models, rather than having lots of track or even running trains - but we all have our own reasons for the hobby.  

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Thanks Brian - you have hit the nail on the head in terms of having to make certain compromises.  I enjoy making the models a bit more than I enjoy laying track, if I'm honest!

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Most of the sections for the Orangery are complete, so a few pics.  Not glued together yet as I am waiting for a delivery of internal furniture and I need to make the grape vine, but the test fitting is working well..... a few pictures:


















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Nice work! The weathered roof was so natural that I didn’t notice it until I had admired the repurposing of the materials for the cap and finial. Both the stained glass and tiled floor look spot on too. Bravo.
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Ah! But I bet you can't guess what was repurposed, Marty!!  I'm not actually sure about it to be honest - I'll see what it is like when it is fixed in place and any gaps filled.
No prizes for guessing, except the title of "I Know How You Did It!" Champion!!!

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And no ball point pens were harmed in the making of this model...…!



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A little more work on the Orangery.  The ancient grape vine is in place, and in fruit......





The roof has been changed a little - much happier now.  And some people have arrived for afternoon tea...





and another view....




And a final one...





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Looking smart Michael your grapevine looks really good.

As its an orangery you need a few orange trees in pots


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hmmm.... not much room left.... I might manage to squeeze one into the corner!

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OK, Brian.... an orange bush!





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So, I have been rethinking the track plan in light of having a turntable.  My original location for the TT will work, but I think I can make better use of it elsewhere, and I have mentioned previously relocating the hotel, which will necessitate moving the TT

Here is my question:  I have an idea to model some of the sidings in the prototype which I was previously going to ignore.  To do this, I think I will need a "diamond" crossing..... is there a problem with wiring?  I have done a bit of research and it seems to complicate matters.  Any advice?

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