Video Archive         Recent Topics      
YMR logo

You are here:  Your Model Railway Club > Getting You Started. > Layout Design, Trackwork & Operation. > Going large - building large layouts To bottom of page
                 

 Moderated by: Spurno Page:  First Page Previous Page  ...  5  6  7  8  9  10   
Start New Topic Reply Printer Friendly

Going large - building large layouts - Layout Design, Trackwork & Operation. - Getting You Started. - Your Model Railway Club
AuthorPost
 Posted: Sun Feb 16th, 2020 11:48 am
PMQuoteReply
link to this 181st post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Colin W wrote: Just checking! Mind you £8,000 is not a bad effort given the current rolling stock/ track already accounted for!
:mutley :mutley

In my defence Colin, the budget also includes insulation and lining for the shed, electrical installation of lighting and power, a uPVC door for the building, baseboards, carpet and a couple of stools.  Hopefully a kettle, small fridge and a few cans of something refreshing will find their way onto the shopping list!!

:cheers

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 03:25 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 182nd post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides



Head very excited

Wallet truly tired

All I need now is a house and the shed!!

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 05:21 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 183rd post
Petermac
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 13th, 2007
Location: Nr Bergerac, France
Posts: 17041
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Good grief Barry - when are you opening your shop ?

That's quite a delivery - not surprised your wallet is in shock but how's your bank manager ?

I get excited when I buy a pack of track pins ...................................




____________________
'Petermac
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 05:51 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 184th post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Hi Peter

If you promise not to tell anyone I'll let you into a little secret.

Until I retired at the age of 50 I was a Bank Manager......

Keep it to yourself!!

Barry

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 09:17 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 185th post
Petermac
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 13th, 2007
Location: Nr Bergerac, France
Posts: 17041
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Ah right Barry - now I understand.  So it's actually my money you're spending ……………………….. ;-) ;-) ;-)

My lips are sealed.  :thumbs



____________________
'Petermac
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 07:43 am
PMQuoteReply
link to this 186th post
Ed
Full Member


Joined: Tue Jan 29th, 2013
Location: West Anglia Main Line, United Kingdom
Posts: 3825
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Saw the picture and immediately thought the same as Peter, good grief  :shock:

Of course, the downside is all the wiring you going to have to do :cry:


Ed



____________________
Engineers just love to change things
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Mar 17th, 2020 04:26 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 187th post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Apologies for the delay in replying - family issues.

A number of aspects of this project continue to appear, from the outside at least, to be somewhat daunting.  However, it might be worth me reminding folk that this layout is an "extension" of all the other layouts I have built.  Most of the experimental or pioneering work has been done and I am able to call on experience/mistakes/good ideas from a number of previous attempts.

The plan is simply a smaller plan exploded into a big space and the wiring is no different.  Yes, there is a lot of it but it will be very simple - I prefer simple as I am no electronics wizard - and if it breaks, I need to be able to understand it to fix it.

I am also blessed by having a number of friends, mostly non-railway, who have contributed.  My ex-BBC engineer has done sterling work investigating relays and we have spent many (happy) hours measuring resistances through various cable types over 20 metre runs.  On most layouts, you dont have point motors sited 40-odd feet away from the CDU and switch.  The power losses are an important factor!!

The final, and key, element in all this is that I am the sort of person who, generally, gets what he wants.  I don't mean that in a malicious or bullying way, I have a history of strong determination.  I am fortunate that my vision of this shed is shared by my wonderful wife and I am in a position to bring this dream into reality.  I am also fortunate that contributors to this forum have raised questions and issues about the layout that have made me think about aspects that I had previously missed.  Surely that is the greatest support of all.

Oh and no offence taken Peter but after nearly 30 years of working my backside off in the HQ of a Global Corporate bank, where I never saw customers, money or cheques and my rewards came from my own efforts rather than the misfortune of others, Bank Manager jokes wear a bit thin.  Fortunately, early in my banking career I had my skin grafted over with an extra layer from a rhinocerous :mutley :mutley :mutley

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Mar 17th, 2020 04:50 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 188th post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

A bit of fun

The layout will consume;

937 feet of track (according to Anyrail)
113 point units
120 point motors
35 buffer stops
845 metres of wire (best estimate)
50 packets of rail joiners
20 packets of track pins
several kilos of ballast (I dread to think actually)
about 120 trees
5 CDU's
6 controllers
133 switches of various types
57 trains
60 locomotives
124 coaches
706 wagons

The shed is 426 square feet and will accommodate
4 stations
3 storage yards
4 control panels
1 workbench
5 bar stools
1 mini fridge full of beer
5 mates
1 electric fuse board feeding
2 electric ring-mains and 1 lighting circuit
20 plug sockets
16 downlighters
4 oil-filled radiators

By the time it is finished I will be:
old
skint
a very happy man  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Mar 17th, 2020 06:44 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 189th post
Petermac
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 13th, 2007
Location: Nr Bergerac, France
Posts: 17041
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

With 5 mates and only 5 bar stools, I take it you'll be standing behind the bar Barry ....................

What I can't get my head around is that, with all that track, rolling stock and locos, you can only run to a "mini" fridge !!  What's wrong with a full sized one ?



____________________
'Petermac
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Mar 17th, 2020 08:50 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 190th post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Peter

You would not believe how much stuff has been allocated to "the shed" once we get into the house.  We have agreed not to use the loft for anything and therein lies the problem :cry:

Barry

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Mar 17th, 2020 09:02 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 191st post
BCDR
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 19th, 2013
Location: Reston, Virginia USA
Posts: 3308
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Hi Barry,

Only one workbench? Might be useful to have 2 - one for "clean" work (electronics, soldering, and the like), one for messy stuff (scenery, painting, plaster). One of the things I miss after downsizing was the loss of my two workbenches. One had the lathe, mill, drill press, sander and soldering station on, the other had the "messy stuff" including the spray booth (simple frame with a bathroom fan handing the exhaust through a clothes dryer flexi tube to the outside). .

Any chance you can squeeze in a small sink and running water?

Nigel



____________________
©Nigel C. Phillips
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 05:34 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 192nd post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Hi Nigel

No chance of the sink and running water but thank you for the idea of 2 benches for messy and clean work. 

I was considering having the bench next to Middle Junction and having duplicate controllers there for the main up and down lines so that I could work and play trains at the same time.  I decided to locate the bench next to Yarslow so I could do both and not require additional controllers. 

However, your point is well made and I am now considering using a couple of older control units next to the messy bench - I would not fancy getting dirty stuff all over a new pair of Gaugemaster Feedback units!!

Kind regards

Barry

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 05:41 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 193rd post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

I have today loaded onto YouTube, the first 2 of a series of videos aimed at explaining how I went about designing the layout - going from initial thoughts through to detailed planning.  Its a process that everybody goes through when designing a new layout but the process gets seriously stretched out and detailed when you are trying to design something that covers 400 square feet.


Introduction




I will post Part 2 on the next post as it appears I cannot post 2 videos together

Barry







Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 05:45 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 194th post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Part 2 : The Vision


Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 09:32 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 195th post
Sol
A modelling Moderator.


Joined: Mon Nov 28th, 2011
Location: Evanston Gardens, South Aust, Australia
Posts: 4059
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

So far, you have kept me interested Barry.



____________________
Ron
NCE DCC ; 00 scale UK outline.
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 10:37 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 196th post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Sol

Thanks for your interest
I hope its not predatory but I was thinking that whilst I was "social distancing", others in the same position might want something to watch.

Barry

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 02:30 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 197th post
Passed Driver
Full Member


Joined: Thu Feb 19th, 2015
Location: Peckham, United Kingdom
Posts: 3612
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Hi Barry.        Well done,nothing wrong with that. If only I had the space, the enthusiasm, and the where with all. But I will plod on.   Best wishes Kevin 



____________________
Staying on the thread Kevin.
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 04:14 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 198th post
TeaselBay
Novice
 

Joined: Fri Aug 4th, 2017
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 360
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Wow! I've only just seen that delivery back in Feb! How amazing is that! Good luck!



____________________
Chris

Teasel Bay

Teasel Bay on Facebook
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 07:45 pm
PMQuoteReply
link to this 199th post
Barry Miltenburg
Full Member


Joined: Wed Jan 18th, 2017
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posts: 512
Status: 
Offline

My photos:
view photos in Gallery
view photos as slides

Thanks Chris

It will be emotional!!!!

Barry

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

This is topic ID = 14968     Current time is 02:20 am Page:  First Page Previous Page  ...  5  6  7  8  9  10     
You are here:  Your Model Railway Club > Getting You Started. > Layout Design, Trackwork & Operation. > Going large - building large layouts
You can type a quick reply to this topic here. Click in the box below to begin.

Or to reply to an individual post, or to include images, attachments and formatted text,
click the Quote or Reply buttons on each post above.

To start a new topic in this forum, click the Start New Topic button below.
To start a new topic in a different forum, click the Forum Jump drop-down list below.
Start New Topic


Back to top of page

           
15 Most Recent Topics

Problems with this web site? Please contact the Webmaster.

All material submitted to this web site is the responsibility of the respective contributor. By submitting material to this web site you acknowledge that you accept full responsibility for the material submitted.
Unless stated otherwise, all the material displayed on this web site, including all text, photographs, drawings and other images, is copyright and the property of the respective contributor. Registered members are welcome to use it for their own personal non-commercial modelmaking purposes. It must not be reproduced or re-published elsewhere in any form, or used commercially, without first obtaining the owner's express permission.
The owner of this web site may edit, modify or remove any content at any time without giving notice or reason.    © 2008

                 

Recent Topics Back to top of page

Powered by UltraBB 1.15 Copyright © 2007-2011 by Jim Hale and Data 1 Systems. Page design copyright © 2008-2013 Martin Wynne. Photo gallery copyright © 2009 David Williams.