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 Posted: Fri Jun 23rd, 2017 08:46 pm
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Hi Nigel.   With all my "Faffing Around" . With Hornby 0-4-0 's . I have at last got down to the serious business , today I "Plumbed in" so to speak my new "DJM Electric Loco" 5003 of course I cannot put it through its paces, but it has a  terrific compressor sound. I may even get around to working on some other projects. It has been unbelievably hot,I will be glad when the "Thunder Storm" gets here.    All the best. Kevin



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I still think it would be a good idea for you to try converting one, Kevin, as practice. If it goes wrong, you have others that still work and the spoiled one would act as a spares store!

On a more positive note, Nigel has hit on another idea that would improve reliability even further: that is, permanently attach and wire a coal wagon with extra pickups fitted. Not only would that give you space for a decoder with sound and speaker, but it would also give a much longer wheelbase for picking up electricity over points and crossings.

That's the problem with what start off as seemingly simple projects ... they can grow and develop!
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Hi Jeff.   Thank you again, excellent idea ,a GWR fan had used a similar idea with a shunters truck. But I could not figure out how to do the wire connection between the Loco and the Wagon. 40 odd years ago I fitted a tail lamp bodge job to a brake van, but of course, as soon as the train stopped, the lamp was extinguished . Now I have a battery fed tail lamp on a brake van.   All the best. Kevin



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Connecting a loco to a wagon electrically
http://www.endofthelinehobbies.com.au/modelling-tips/dcc/installing-a-dcc-decoder
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/nswmn1/ExtraPickUps.htm



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Hi Ron.    Thank you for your reply. I have filed these details and Will investigate them. I will let you know how I get on.   All the best. Kevin



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Hi Kevin,

Wiring a flat truck to an engine? (or anuthing else that requires power)  - I use Miniatronics 2 or 4 wire cable with male/female connectors. Two for the pick-up from the wheels (which you will have to fabricate, I use copper clad ties fixed with CA and 15 thou' P/B wipers), 2 for the speaker. Rated at 1A, so good for most modern motors. You can get similar in the UK. Suitably looped they look like pipes. Fix a plank over them between the locomotive and the truck and they disappear

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Hi Ed.    I have just unpacked my Six Pug's,1/ Blue Diamond
2/ C R
3/ G E R
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6/ B R Blue Diesel 
I will test these once I have found out their age, in the Grand scheme of things.    Kevin



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Hi Nigel.  Thank you.   I have just looked up "Miniatronics", fine on your side of the Pond? But I will have to investigate suppliers nearer home.  Kevin



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 Kevin,

Eileen's Emporium has the male and female plugs, just wire them up. Works best if you take the strain at one end with a plastic bar and crews over the cabling.

I'm pretty sure Miniatronics will do mail order, they really are some great connectors, more robust than the ones from EE.

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Hi Nigel.   Thank you again, I will have to wait till next week, or find a model rail show?    Kevin



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Hi Nigel.   Having just set up my Dave Jones Electric Loco with the cab side No 5003 , I now realise where I went wrong, before you put me on the correct track.    When I got to the stage in the proceedings. .     , where you told me to.     
       Press "Prog Escap".  several times that is what I didn't see in the manual.    Kevin



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Hi Ed.   I have been watching YouTube Videos again, looking for Pug ideas, a number of surprises too??The best being Pug 51240 with Zimo sound fitted c/o Allan Thomson, excellent.
Second place, so far, 52251 c/o Janiceand cliff.        There were others that were DCC fitted, but without noticeable improvement ? And the "jury is still out".   Kevin



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Couple of ideas..........

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12395&forum_id=52&highlight=pugs



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Hi Ron.  I have just looked at the Hornby Collectors Guide, and there is a bloke in Queensland, who is offering a 0-4-0 Blue Shunter (R 3065) just like one of my selection( could be newer?) for $84.00, fair dinkum I thought that I had just purchased a heap of junk?All the best. Kevin



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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Ron.  I have just looked at the Hornby Collectors Guide, and there is a bloke in Queensland, who is offering a 0-4-0 Blue Shunter (R 3065) just like one of my selection( could be newer?) for $84.00, fair dinkum I thought that I had just purchased a heap of junk?All the best. Kevin


Maybe not so fair dinkum Kevin, as Hattons are currently selling them off at £19.00 (just less than $32 Australian).

http://www.hattons.co.uk/36002/Hornby_R3065_Class_06_Shunter_06008_in_BR_blue_Railroad_Range_/StockDetail.aspx

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Wait, there's more . . .


CR pug with crew and DCC fitted at £24


http://www.hattons.co.uk/291782/Hornby_R2672_HX01_Class_0F_Pug_0_4_0ST_272_in_Caledonian_Railway_blue_Railroad_range_Pre_owned_/StockDetail.aspx

Right, back to the gardening!


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Hi Bill.   Thank you.  That is some price to pay after the opinions of them that are going around.I really thought that I was robbed ? At the online price I paid.    All the best Kevin



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Hi Bill.  Hattons have a pre owned Pug DCC fitted for  £68.00 , that is stretching its bit?But it proves, that "some bright spark" out there, managed to do it.   Kevin



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Hi Nigel.   I have been all over the forums from Hornby to Timbuktu . Reading about DCC conversion,And it would seem that some Modellers remove the suppressor and others solder the Decoder to each side of it.
And I have read that the suppressor is unnecessary with DCC. Please advise. Kevin



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Hi Kevin,

I always get rid of the suppressor circuit, as I always strip down to basics (motor and two terminals) when doing a conversion.

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