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 Posted: Thu Jan 12th, 2017 01:11 pm
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Hello All,Just a heads up really. Anthony (Tony) Adler RIP, was a very keen collector of model railway items, mainly in H0 scale European but with a very eclectic range of tastes so there were examples from all over the world including the better models from the UK (Golden Age models etc).
I happened across this collection purely by chance while I was looking for information on early German electric locos and I must say, it was an enormous collection. Truly a case of "he who dies with the most toys, wins"! Of which the corollary is "He who dies with the most toys, still dies".
Anyway, I attempted to win a couple of nice Trix items, a multi axle 'Schnabel wagon" being one, also bidding on a Rivarossi "Blauer Enzian" set for my dear colleague D and I watched many other items to see what they may go for, purely out of curiosity. D persuaded me to put a much higher bid on than I would have done but, he really, really wanted this set so we agreed to match the price such sets were going for on German ebay.
Much to our great surprise and disappointment, all our bids were surpassed! Someone was out there, bidding like crazy to win as many items as possible.
Now, I can stand losing, despite the surprise of losing what I considered to be a very fair bid indeed however;

Is it a co-incidence that noticeable items are turning up on ebay already, from that well known ebay shop from Sheffield? Such items have vastly inflated prices compared with available items from Europe! Obviously, I can't say "don't buy from them"! But I can advise anyone wanting such things to check availability from Europe too as even with postage charges, such things can work out a LOT cheaper.
Just a fair warning!
John.



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I followed this auction on line at various times throughout the day yesterday.
A couple of things surprised me.
First was the low estimates set for the various lots & secondly some of the vastly inflated prices that were paid for quite a few of the lots. Taking into account the buyers premium of 20.5% plus the various other add on's some of the prices paid were in my opinion over the top.
Now if someone wants a particular item that badly & are prepared to pay a premium price for it then fair enough but a lot of the bidding seemed to me to show a lack of research into the availability of some of the items elsewhere.



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Thank you, Tony!
I'm really pleased to see that you have much the same opinion as me. As I say, I don't mind being beaten by other individuals who are prepared to spend more than the going rate elsewhere, what really gets my goat is famous (notorious?) ebay shops doing all this and THEN expecting to sell at a profit!
I am happy to be a whistleblower and give the public fair warning.
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I've noticed that on fleabay, you often see items selling for way above their new price, even though they are still "current" items.

That's auctions for you.  People get sucked in and, like many French drivers, must always be in front.

Regarding that "other establishment" in south Yorkshire, I do wonder how many of their fleabay offerings actually sell.  They certainly don't seem to offer anything at bargain prices.  I've often had to re-read their prices thinking there's been a typo somewhere ......................

It doesn't really bother me much now because, following earlier, expensive disasters, I never buy "previously loved"  locomotives.  Coaches and rolling stock yes, but never locos.  If I can't buy it new, then I'll do without.  



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I also followed this auction, but my views are somewhat different. In the uk, i ran a large cycle business, which involved regularly going to auctions. At these auctions, was ,as i suspect happened here, a dealers ring, where they paid well over the top for the first x items, putting bidders off, and were then able to buy many lots, at prices that suited them. The whole idea being to scare the public off. Here, it succeeded. john

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Hi John,
That is interesting, thanks!
I did wonder if that was going to be the case here but "high" prices seemed to be the case right to the end, I did win something towards the end as it happened. When I went to collect my item (the only reason I bid was because it was easily reachable for me!), a lady was there with her son aged about 12. He had won a British item at what I thought was silly money but they were clearly "members of the public" probably relatively local too. I remain surprised at what some folk will pay and I suppose this is where the "ebay merchants" make their money.
Ah well, I've tried to warn folk, can't do any more!
John.



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Petermac wrote: It doesn't really bother me much now because, following earlier, expensive disasters, I never buy "previously loved"  locomotives.  Coaches and rolling stock yes, but never locos.  If I can't buy it new, then I'll do without.  
A wise move, Peter.I am very careful with my purchases too and buying new is the safest.
I too have been burned by expensive s/h models turning out to be bad, at least buying from a shop you have a warranty to give you some confidence. I can repair most things but sometimes it is just not worth it.
John.



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