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So as i have basically finished my previous layout of Operation Abyss, i was feeling a bit lost and a little eager to start building something / anything.

but what should i build, like operation abyss i wanted something that was different and something that would push my building to new levels.

whilst exhibiting at peterborough with my good friend Neil from http://www.littlelayoutcompany.co.uk the two of us had a mad moment and decided what would be cool would be a WW1 narrow gauge trench railway, yes this has been done before, however my idea to make it a little different was to set it in winter and raise the level of detail. this idea was to start with a silly idea, but the seed was set.

i went home and suddenly realised that i had two old baseboards in my loft that i had built over ten years ago for a project that never happend, the baseboards if any good are each 6 feet by 22inches.
i dug the base boards out and found they are solid, level and straight.

so what should i do, that was the next question.

i basically came up with the idea that i would use one of the boards and then in the future possibly do the second as an extension.

now i have always wanted a helix and when i finally build my large stay at home layout i want some helix's so the basically this would be a test bed.



i decided to use 3mm ply for the track base, my first three attempts at building a helix failed, the first was far to steep, the second had a lump in it, the third worked but looked like my three year old had built it. i wanted something that looked good as well as worked even though it was going to be hidden.

the first helix's where braced with wooden blocks, not very precise, so i decided that i would use threaded rod with bolts.



getting the height / climb right was the hardest bit as i only had a 22inch circle to play with, also as the helix will be under the scenery i needed to be able to get to it to clean the track and sort out any derailments.

as my baseboards are flat topped, i was able to cut out a access hole.



next up was adding the track bed and setting the height, using treaded bar i am able to adjust the helix so that it is mm perfect.




next up was to add the track, i decided to use peco 009 flexi track. as you can see the track climbs the smallest amount possible.





once i had perfected this i then actually started thinking about the actual track plan. now as i have two young children who like to watch trains going around and around i wanted a tail chaser. but then with some sidings for a bit of shuntng.

i settled on a figure of eight idea.



so the lower level will be the fiddle yard under the scenery. on the top at one end will be a bombed out french town and the other end will be trenches and a forrest all in winter. with the line running from the town to the trenches with sidings in the town for unloading and loading.

so what do you think of the plan and any ideas for a layout name.

i still think im mad but i am having fun with this project.

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A bombed out French Town???  What about "D'struction"?

Nice use of space,  Happy Modelling

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Hi Jimmy,

The end of the local service on Canadian National in Montreal is Deux Montagnes... you have two hills covering your spirals?  Could also try Deux Spirale?  Val D'struction?  Sorry my French is not particularly plausible let alone passable!!!

Cheers

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Hi Jimmy,

Looking good. Steam engines were stopped short of the trenches in a staging area, the steam and smoke were too easy to spot. Armored petrol engines would normally take over for the last 5 miles or so. Not sure how difficult a Simplex in OOn9 would be, Nigel Lawson has the kit and running gear.

The Canadians ran most of the UK/Commonwealth narrow gauge system, the Americans ran their own.

Deux Montagnes - Calvaire Mountain and Saint-Joseph-du-Lac Hill. The commuter line is now run by AMT, not CN.

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BCDR wrote: Hi Jimmy,

Looking good. Steam engines were stopped short of the trenches in a staging area, the steam and smoke were too easy to spot. Armored petrol engines would normally take over for the last 5 miles or so. Not sure how difficult a Simplex in OOn9 would be, Nigel Lawson has the kit and running gear.

The Canadians ran most of the UK/Commonwealth narrow gauge system, the Americans ran their own.

Deux Montagnes - Calvaire Mountain and Saint-Joseph-du-Lac Hill. The commuter line is now run by AMT, not CN.

Nigel

i have been researching this subject and its really interesting, i'm planning to have some petrol simplex locos,

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i'm still struggling for a name, one of my friends ideas was "a cold front"

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Just wondering if you could put a bit more of a curve in after the helix Jim, so that the upper and lower lines crossed at the back of the baseboard rather than right in the middle.

Might give a bit more room for scenery in front of the line.

As for a name since it goes round in a circle, how about 'Back to (the) Front'.



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Hi I actually really like that idea for a name. 
I haven't posted much recently and tbh I haven't done much recently, as not been to well, luckily I'm on the mend so time to pull my finger out 

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Sounds an interesting project Jim,i might have to pop in and see you again sometime.

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I'm really looking forward to watching this, Jim.  :cool:

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Any time you are always welcome. 
I will post a few pictures of the little progress I have hopfully tomorrow 

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so far one of the possible names is "a cold front"

however again i still haven't done much although i have now laid all the track in the lower fiddle yard, which ment i have been able to test both the helix's and yey they work!!



as you can see every section of track has a power feed, i do this as i feel it improves the loco running, this is also going to dcc.

however i did get a wwi tank kit for christmas so i couldnt resist building it.







hope you like it.

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Excellent job, Jim.  :thumbs

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That's awesome Jimmy. I like the new layout :D

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That's a beautifully painted model. It will look great on the layout. I thought you might like to have a look at some information about a WW1 German tank that we have at our museum here in Queensland, perhaps this would be an easy scratchbuilding project.
Robyn

https://www.awm.gov.au/mephisto/

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We recently attended a model railway show and there was a new layout situated next to us which was a WW1 layout, it was brilliant. Hope you like these photos.
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Hi guys

Not been about recently to do any kind of modelling, as have been refitting a bloody bathroom and busy at work.

However I’m back and this years project is to crack on with this project!!

However it’s going to take me some time to catch up with what you guys have been building.

Jimmy

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so i have had a break over christmas from modelling and recently decided to start with this project again, however i was unhappy with the way the helix's worked or didnt quite in my case, i had made them out of 3mm ply and because of movement the locos derailed or struggled, so in a act of madness i ripped it all up and started again.

this time using 6mm ply and so far so good.

lower level all laid, wired and tested.



next up a new vehicle for the layout, i purchased a resin kit from wd models of a austin armoured car and instantly set about building it.next up a new vehicle for the layout, i purchased a resin kit from wd models of a austin armoured car and instantly set about building it.
i purchased a resin kit from WD models of a austin armoured ar and instantly set about building it.



a bit of paint and then weathered with the airbrush



so all in all i'm happy and getting back on with it.

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so after a long week at work i have managed to get the top level done, just gotta wait for the glue to dry so that i can lay and wire all the track, hopfully this will be done by monday ready for the point motors
 

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so not much has really happened, however what i have been doing is finally getting round to installing all the point motors and wiring for the layout. 
i opted to use DCC consepts slow action motors. these where a dream to install and set up. 



when you realise that you have gone a little over the top ith the wires. 



next up is to build a control panel. 

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Hi Jimmy,

Looks really good. Double Inglenook with runaround. 6mm ply is about the minimum for stability. Those helices are really clever.

Dimensions for the research I'm doing? (l x w).

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Hi Nigel 
The entire layout is 72 inches long by 22 inches wide and the diameter of the helix is 17inches.

Hope this helps 

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Hi Jimmy,

Yes, many thanks. I was thinking it was around six feet based on the hearth. Eleven square feet makes it a small one. More grits to the mill.

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BCDR wrote: Hi Jimmy,

Yes, many thanks. I was thinking it was around six feet based on the hearth. Eleven square feet makes it a small one. More grits to the mill.

Nigel


Yes I built this one smaller than operation abyss as operation abyss is 8feet and is a pain to transport. 

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so my next project was the control panel, using the push buttons from dcc concepts. 
i had a quick look in my garage for a good bit of plastic, wood, metal basically anything i could use. 

i found a piece of old aircraft grade aluminium which i was given a while back, its kinda over the top but will do. 






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so not much has happened on this layout and when i say not much i mean nothing,

however i decided i have had enough of never being able to find anything i needed for modelling so i decided the way forward was to build a modelling bench, that i could easily bring in from the garage and take out again when the wife wanted the dining room back.

here is what i knocked up.





with a dual gauge test track

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Hi Jimmy

In another life I am a wargamer (http://www.fightyourownbattles.co.uk) and really like layouts like yours where the two hobbies come together.  Its such an interesting idea and am really surprised more people dont do it (Rowlands Castle from memory is the only one??)

I look forward to piccys of progress.

Barry

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Barry Miltenburg wrote: Hi Jimmy

In another life I am a wargamer (http://www.fightyourownbattles.co.uk) and really like layouts like yours where the two hobbies come together.  Its such an interesting idea and am really surprised more people dont do it (Rowlands Castle from memory is the only one??)

I look forward to piccys of progress.

Barry


Thank you hopefully I will be able to crack on with this again. 

Have you seen my layout operation abyss? 

Jimmy 


                 

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