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 Posted: Tue Dec 20th, 2016 09:36 pm
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Thanks John,
In hindsight it's missing some detail on the headstocks but because I hand mixed the paint I am loath to add them now I know better because I doubt I could mix that colour of paint again to cover/touch them in.



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Still looks quite lovely. And is increasing my urge to get started on scratchbuilding some BR wagons of my own (even if it means extra-tall W-irons)



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Rob,

I hope you don't think I'm trying to be smug,
or trying to teach you to suck eggs, but

I always mix more than I need and store it in
an old, cleaned out tinlet, just in case!

On the other hand, repairs to wagons & vans
weren't always to 'main works' standards, incl.
paint match and finish, so I wouldn't be too
bothered if it didn't match perfectly, so long as
it looks like a proper 'original' repair.



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jcm@gwr wrote: Rob,

I hope you don't think I'm trying to be smug,
or trying to teach you to suck eggs, but

I always mix more than I need and store it in
an old, cleaned out tinlet, just in case!

On the other hand, repairs to wagons & vans
weren't always to 'main works' standards, incl.
paint match and finish, so I wouldn't be too
bothered if it didn't match perfectly, so long as
it looks like a proper 'original' repair.

Hi Jeff, 

That's probably a habit that I ought to get into especially when mixing non standard colours. Thinking about it as mentioned elsewhere my good lady is an artist so she could probably replicate the colour for me .



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Although jumping the gun a bit on my scratchbuilding journey I have been asked to post photos of the items that won prizes this year in the modelling competition at Guildex.
Starting off with the wagon that one third prize and a bit of background. I have built a couple of the Parkside kit's for the Outside framed Jubilee van but it turns out that these were the least numerous of the Jubilee vans. The NBR built wide planked versions and matchboard versions in much greater numbers.

I found a drawing and drew up sides and ends in Inkscape and when assembled and beading added from half round styrene strip I ended up with these:







From there it was an easy task to adapt the drawings to represent one of the later matchboard sided vans.





The underframe parts are spares obtained from Parkside from the Jubilee van kit.

As you can see I built two of each type.



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Due to the lack of transfers I decided to have a go at cutting some using the silhouette cutter to cut the letters from white transfer paper. I did this for the "Return to Singer" elements of the vans. I don't seem to have any un-weathered pictures so these are all post  at least some weathering.









Then we get to the competition entry, on page 43 of Tatlow's LNER Wagons volume 3 there is a superb photo of one of the matchboard vans post WWII put out to grass awaiting being broken up and I just had to try to replicate it.







A final shot of the finished wagon alongside the trophy.




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Rob Pulham wrote: Thanks John,
In hindsight it's missing some detail on the headstocks but because I hand mixed the paint I am loath to add them now I know better because I doubt I could mix that colour of paint again to cover/touch them in.

Hi Rob,

Repeat mixing is quite easy, just don't try and do it by volumes, especially drop-wise with pipettes. I always weigh each part using some ex-kitchen scales (accurate to 0.1 gm). Then you can note it down on the container with the final mix, or in the workshop notebook (we all have one, right?). Alternatively, always prepare a paint swatch on the base color you used, and store out of the light for future reference. And make a note of what colors were used. You can usually get pretty close on repeat mixing.

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While reading up on various Midland wagons in Essery's Midland wagon tmes, I also noted a few pictures of a Midland Railway shunters truck similar to the ones that the GWR had. I wondered if the LNER or it's constituents had anything similar. 

An enquiry on the LNER forum revealed that the GCR has a couple and the NER had built one. No photos or drawings have emerged for the GCR examples but by fortunate coincidence (unbeknown to me at the time) I had a copy of the drawing for the NER example which is included in the Railway Snowploughs in the North East book by David and Claire Williamson. 

I had to use a bit of modellers license in this one because although the NER built it in 1902, in 1907 it was rebuilt into a double ended snowplough (hence it's inclusion in the book).

This is a true multimedia build:
The floor and step boards are coffee stirrers
The rest of the timber work is styrene strip
The handrail stanchions are brass split pins with piano wire rails
Brass handrail  knobs and nickel wire make up the lower handrails.
The hand brake column is a Slaters casting
The W Irons and V hangers are Slaters from the spares box as are the axle boxes but I did modify them with styrene.
The springs and hangers are scratch built from styrene strip and angle
Buffers are Haywood Railway and the couplings are Parkside.
















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This is excellent Rob.  Your use of everyday materials is inspiring and the effect is very good.  I like the obscure prototype.

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Thanks John,
Ever since I bought the shortline my horizons have expanded materials wise.

As a small diversion these are some wagon loads that I did.

This was done using some snips before I bought the shortline. - As you can see the ends had a tendency to get crushed slightly.











This was done after I got the shortline.










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My next foray into scratch building was to be an ex NBR 4 plank dropside wagon.















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Another beauty, Rob.  :thumbs



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Thanks Max,
This is what it looks like with a bit of paint and weathering.

I tried it with a few different homemade loads before settling on one.







This last one was what won my entry the runner up prize at Guildex



Although it was part of a wider entry, feedback from the competition organiser (Nick Dunhill) said that it was this wagon that carried the day.

This is the rest of them






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I'm not surprised, Rob.  What was the load?  They look like glass bottles of something?



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Those loads look good Rob.  I expect you'll be looking into lashing them down.  I've seen pictures of lumber loads half sheeted and lashed.

Would those glass jars be filled with sulphuric acid - eek! :shock:

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Brossard wrote:
Would those glass jars be filled with sulphuric acid - eek! :shock:

John

Quite possibly John, elf and safety didn't feature in those days.



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While taking photos yesterday I completely forgot the LNER Container. I managed to get the body painted a couple of weeks ago but I wasn't happy with the colour so I mixed some more. While I had the transfers out I applied some. The photo that I am working from has the container on an ex GER OCT which was before dedicated container wagons were produced. On that basis I am going to leave the paint work fairly pristine although I will no doubt weather the OCT when I get that far.

To avoid putting the cart before the horse I have included some photos of it before painting too.














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Rob Pulham wrote: Brossard wrote:
Would those glass jars be filled with sulphuric acid - eek! :shock:

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Quite possibly John, elf and safety didn't feature in those days.

My mum had a story from the Great War where her mum worked in a chemical factory.  Some poor sod fell into a vat of acid - all they found was his wellies.

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Brossard wrote: Rob Pulham wrote: Brossard wrote:
Would those glass jars be filled with sulphuric acid - eek! :shock:

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Quite possibly John, elf and safety didn't feature in those days.

My mum had a story from the Great War where her mum worked in a chemical factory.  Some poor sod fell into a vat of acid - all they found was his wellies.

John

I remember my 1970's Telecom days when we installed new  batteries in the country telephone exchanges & had to fill them up with acid - clothing & rubber gloves & masks....

Now outside of that, your models Rob are excellent :thumbs



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Now outside of that, your models Rob are excellent :thumbs

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