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I thought I would start a post about my OO gauge layout that I have been building since 2012. Much progress has been made, but I am still a long way from getting it to the standard I would like.

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Set in 1930's North West England as I wanted to model steam operations in the Settle & Carlisle, Lancashire & Yorkshire and Lancaster to Carlisle area of the LMS (LMS being my preferred railway company and the North West being my most favourite part of the UK!!)

The layout is OO gauge, 4mm/ft, DC controlled, 8ft x 14ft narrowing to 12ft, built in the spare room (spare for now). It a permanent home layout and badly designed so I cannot move it without destroying it!!

Baseboard framework is standard 2x2 and 2x1 with a variety of tops that I had sitting dormant! (15mm chipboard loft boards, 12mm ply, 12mm MDF, 3mm hardboard (backing from wardrobe), kitchen unit sides and shelves, 2 x wardrobe doors). Note to self: just by sheets of ply - far easier!!!!

Track is Peco Code 75 with Peco pointwork, Peco and SEEP selenoid point motors with accessory switches for polarity and directional LED's. Controller is a Gaugemaster dual controller with a CDU to give the motors a kick!

The layout has many features which I wanted to include as part of my design brief;
Station area, loco service area, water, farm/farmyard, coal merchants, goods yard, hillside, cuttings/Tunnel, small village, lighting (interior and exterior), church and hidden fiddleyard.



There have been progress and a few changes since the above picture was taken, but this was to give an oerview of the layout. I will post more when I get chance. Happy to answer any questions!

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Here are some early shots of the layout during construction! In the end though, the results are covered over with lots of scenic stuff so nobody knows anyway.


Track layout has remained the same other than the sidings in hte lower right corner now heading to a loco service area. Trackplan was very, very loosely based on Kirkby Stephen. Schematic in lower left of picture is the mimic board;


3 years on and I still have LED's to fit and a switch for building/layout lighting etc! Shown below with Gaugemaster controller. Ancient, Dinosaur,  I hear all of you modern DCC chaps shout!!!! But I happen to like my DC control (code for too tight to swap to DCC!!)


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Hi Ian,

Nice set-up (even allowing for the gymnastics in getting to the back of the layout). Looks like you have quite a few blocks.

DC vs DCC? Unless you really want sound (and the latest decoders will run under DC with sound), with multiple engines on the track (unlikely in the real world, where there is often 15-20 minutes between trains, commuter lines probably 10 minutes), DC is actually a better choice with a decent controller and efficient motors. I see you have a twin controller, no switching between loco addresses to control 2 engines. Ideal for 2 engines on steam, one on the main, one in the yard.

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It works, Ian.  That's the main thing.  :thumbs

Nice panel.  :cool wink

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That looks very good Ian.
I'm DC with a twin controller.... and probably will be for the duration.

Any chance of a ground level photo up the street between the terrace houses on the left?

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Thank you all for the kind comments, and to be honest, I think I will be keeping to DC for the foreseeable future. I quite enjoyed working out all of the electrics, but Brian Lamberts guide came in very handy!!! I might witch over to server type point motors one day, but we will see how funding goes!

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Above: Street scene along station road. The station at the bottom of the picture is being replaced with a scratchbuilt version. The terraced houses/shops/pub are Scalescenes, monument is a Peco model, working lights are from Ebay. The road is made from Polyfilla exterior cement repair. Trees are made from hedge twigs with inserted sprigs of sea-foam covered with Woodland Scenics coarse turf. Hotel and house at the far end of the picture are both scratchbuilt.



Row of cottages from Scalescenes and scratchbuilt barn using Redutex textured stonework. Grass applied using homemade static grass applicator and stone walls are from Ebay.



Modified Dapol footbridge (lowered and shortened). More to follow!

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Scratchbuilt waiting shelter


Farmyard (Scalescenes scaled down to 3mm/ft for perspective) located in far corner of layout along with the 3mm/ft Scalescenes church:




I have interior lighting in the farmhouse and church and will get a pic once I have completed the wiring up.

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and one to prove I do have LMS trains!!!



Signal box is a modified Ratio kit. I replaced the wood lowers with Slaters Stone plasticard, moved the steps to the other side and replaced the windows with Churchward etched brass ones.

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Welcome from the other side of Norfolk on the north east coast. You've progressed well in just four years, I'm off to buy some base board materials after over ten years of shed building and preparation!!

Your modelling looks very good, I too would like to see some more pictures.

I assume the two aircraft pictures have something to do with why you live at Feltwell, lots of airfields in the vicinity..

 My shed will have a somewhat incongruous for a steam era shed,  1/32 ADV Tornado F3 parked in one corner (not on the layout) and a fake stained glass image of a type 84 Radar in one window.

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The Q wrote: Welcome from the other side of Norfolk on the north east coast. You've progressed well in just four years, I'm off to buy some base board materials after over ten years of shed building and preparation!!

Your modelling looks very good, I too would like to see some more pictures.

I assume the two aircraft pictures have something to do with why you live at Feltwell, lots of airfields in the vicinity..

 My shed will have a somewhat incongruous for a steam era shed,  1/32 ADV Tornado F3 parked in one corner (not on the layout) and a fake stained glass image of a type 84 Radar in one window.

Well hello there "The Q" - there are a few Norfolk peeps on here I see which is nice to know. I live very close to three major bases so I can't really avoid them!!! KC-135's, CV-22's, F-15's, several Heli's and C-130's fly over Feltwell quite regularly as well as the Tornado's & Eurofighters - soon it will be the F-35's. Your shed must be huge to manage a 1/32 scale Tornado, and a railway! - now I would definitely love to see pictures of the Tornado! More pictures will follow when I get chance!

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What a great layout with so many cameo scenes, I love the street scene it almost makes you feel that would be a wonderful place to live. I admit to using standard DC as well with all my layouts so far being for exhibitions I have never had any problems with my very old dual Hammant and Morgan controller.

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Lovely stuff, Ian.  :thumbs

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IanLMS wrote: The Q wrote: Welcome from the other side of Norfolk on the north east coast. You've progressed well in just four years, I'm off to buy some base board materials after over ten years of shed building and preparation!!



Your modelling looks very good, I too would like to see some more pictures.



I assume the two aircraft pictures have something to do with why you live at Feltwell, lots of airfields in the vicinity..



 My shed will have a somewhat incongruous for a steam era shed,  1/32 ADV Tornado F3 parked in one corner (not on the layout) and a fake stained glass image of a type 84 Radar in one window.



Well hello there "The Q" - there are a few Norfolk peeps on here I see which is nice to know. I live very close to three major bases so I can't really avoid them!!! KC-135's, CV-22's, F-15's, several Heli's and C-130's fly over Feltwell quite regularly as well as the Tornado's & Eurofighters - soon it will be the F-35's. Your shed must be huge to manage a 1/32 scale Tornado, and a railway! - now I would definitely love to see pictures of the Tornado! More pictures will follow when I get chance!

We get the fighter aircraft from your area out over us, they are supposed to practice their dog fighting over the sea, should it all go wrong, but we often see them directly above us with full afterburner, chasing their tails.
The Tornado is still in its travelling box from when I brought it back from Saudi where I built it from a kit and heavily modified it to represent those I worked on.
 Yes the shed is huge, see the thread "Ludgershall Change for Tidworth", thats part of the reason it's taking so long to get round to building the actual layout, I often wish I had decided to build in N or even T gauge instead of EM.
 Preparations are being made for another shed (10X9 ft) just to store stuff to give me room to complete the railway shed internally then I can get on to building the layout itself.

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"We get the fighter aircraft from your area out over us, they are supposed to practice their dog fighting over the sea, should it all go wrong, but we often see them directly above us with full afterburner, chasing their tails.
The Tornado is still in its travelling box from when I brought it back from Saudi where I built it from a kit and heavily modified it to represent those I worked on.
 Yes the shed is huge, see the thread "Ludgershall Change for Tidworth", thats part of the reason it's taking so long to get round to building the actual layout, I often wish I had decided to build in N or even T gauge instead of EM.
 Preparations are being made for another shed (10X9 ft) just to store stuff to give me room to complete the railway shed internally then I can get on to building the layout itself."
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I'll look up the thread and see!!
I did consider TT--3mm/ft at one point, but not much R-T-R on offer and I haven't even tried kit building a wagon yet, let alone a loco so decided to keep to OO. A change to EM might be worthwhile if I decide to build a new layout, but we will see.
I also have in my mind a nice large exhibition N gauge layout based on the Craven Lime Works on the S&C (with Hoffmann Kiln), but to build it exactly as per the prototype, I would need a minimum of 18ft L x 5ft D. Maybe one day I will get around to building it!!!

Here are a couple of pics taken a while back so won't have the recent changes;




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Here are a few pics of my recent scratchbuild, completed last night. Its a station building, loosely based on the LNWR/LMS ones found in Buckinghamshire and on the Settle & Carlisle line. Overall I am happy with the results - few little areas I could have done better though. It is fully wired up with LED lights and interior using Scalescenes printed sheets and etched brass items from Severn Models. The model is made from 2mm card, over-layed with Slaters plasticard stone sheet. Roof tiles and ridge tiles are York Modelmaking, benches are Shires, windows and doors and window/door surrounds are laser cut offerings from LCut Creative. Guttering is 1.5mm styrene strip and downpipes are 1.5mm styrene rod both from Slaters. Weathering is mostly cheap pastels from Wilko's (£4 for 12 pastels) plus Humbrol weathering powders. I have also added a few pics from around the layout;
















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Well done Ian.
There's some lovely modelling there.
I love the station building & the layout of the buildings brings great atmosphere to the whole layout..
Really looks the part.

Who did the valance on the station canopy that you used ?

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amdaley wrote: Well done Ian.
There's some lovely modelling there.
I love the station building & the layout of the buildings brings great atmosphere to the whole layout..
Really looks the part.

Who did the valance on the station canopy that you used ?

Thank you again. The valance was made by LCut Creative. Laser cutting experts. They also made the windows, doors and window/door surrounds.
They make full buildings, or components and very friendly, fast service.

http://lcut.co.uk/index.php?page=pages/main&title=Home

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IanLMS wrote: amdaley wrote: Well done Ian.
There's some lovely modelling there.
I love the station building & the layout of the buildings brings great atmosphere to the whole layout..
Really looks the part.

Who did the valance on the station canopy that you used ?

Thank you again. The valance was made by LCut Creative. Laser cutting experts. They also made the windows, doors and window/door surrounds.
They make full buildings, or components and very friendly, fast service.

http://lcut.co.uk/index.php?page=pages/main&title=Home

Ian
Cheers for the information Ian.
Tony.

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No problem - they have a very good range of items. I also find Severn Models excellent for detailed etched brass parts and York Modelmaking for scratchbuilding items (windows, doors, valances, roof tiles etc). The roof tiles, round windows and ridge tiles came from York Modelmaking.

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Love it!
Particularly the church, well, all of it!

Keep it up.

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Ted_ wrote: Love it!
Particularly the church, well, all of it!

Keep it up.
Thank you Ted. The church is OO gauge Scalescenes printed at 75% (3mm/ft) to create a bit of perspective as it sits at the rear of the layout.

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Here are a couple of more pics from around the layout - areas left to work on and adding more detail as I go around.
Scratchbuilt Goods Shed - my favourite building on the layout! Still work to do on the yard, crane, vehicles etc and I have now added some exterior lamps in the yard.



Scratchbuilt engine shed and water towe with PD marsh MR water crane and Peco coal stage. Working on completing the cameo with engine shed workers cleaning a loco.



My very first scratchbuilt house and greenhouse. Complete with gardener in the veggie patch. This pic was taken a while ago and I have added more detail around the river and blended the stone walls in better. The stone walls were from Ebay!



Below is a scratchbuilt model of my local with a few minor adjustments. I called it "The Duchess". Windows are from LCut Creative. The structure is 5mm foamboard covered in PVA/Polyfilla mix to give a whitewashed/rendered effect.

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Excellent work. 
Thank you for the photos between the terrace houses. Superb.

Keep it coming.

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Here are a few pictures from around the layout after adding more detail. Still lots more to do! Merry Christmas. Ian

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Here a few more shots from around the layout, after I had got the interior/streetlights working and added more detail to the layout. Had a great operating session as well and after servicing a few loco's with a drop of oil and cleaner, they are running superbly.










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I haven't posted for some time now but here is what I have been up to;


1. Converted to DCC - Purchased Roco z21 Start from Ipswich Model Rail Centre with handheld Multimaus handset and Wi-Fi router to work with my Samsung tablet - £145 brand new!!.

2. Fitted chips to 8 DCC ready Loco's using both Hornby and Gaugemaster decoders (prefer Gaugemaster)

3. Converted my first non-DCC loco to DCC. Old Bachmann Jubilee split-chassis - that was a challenge!!!

4. Modified/detailed my Bachmann Jubilee, Hornby Patriot and Hornby Black 5 - still lots of work to do.

5. Found 3 x DCC30 Accessory decoders for my point work on Ebay for £20. As they are £60 each new, I was very chuffed at the bargain!!

6. Ripped up the back left corner of the layout as the curve was far too tight and my fiddle yard was too short/not enough lanes. Currently in the process of relaying the fiddle yard so I will have 6 lanes, running from 6ft down to 3ft long enabling me to have a good variety of train sizes. Replacing all of the Code 100 track in the fiddle yard with Code 75 electrofrog. As I am surface mounting the points, I purchased 12 Gaugemaster DCC80 Autofrogs (not able to fit Peco accessory switches - PL-13's or PL-15 micro-switches). Will let you know how I get on, especially as I have a double slip in the fiddle yard!


No pictures yet, but will try to get some over the next week or so!

Take care, enjoy modelling and will update you soon on progress!


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Hi Ian,
          I've only just discovered this excellent layout!Some real quality modelling going on.It oozes with LMS period atmosphere,and the lamp-lit evening shots are amazing.I also love the idea of 75%  sized buidings at the rear to give an impression of greater depth!That's deffo one trick to remember.
          Looking forward to more posts in the near future.

Cheers,John.B. ;-)

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Thank you. Very kind words. Reducing tbe models at the rear is a simple way. Easy with s alescenes products 

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I was always dead scared of ripping up track that I had gone through the exhaustive process of laying, wiring, testing and fettling. The relief of finally getting on with the job and fixing what was annoying me is well worth the effort.
Looking forward to the photos.

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Totally agree there. I procrastinated for ages but what did it for me was the sunshine. I accidently left the blinds open and the sun warped a section of track on the tighe bend which was causing an issue! That gave me a  good reason to get on with it. He definately moves in mysterious ways as that was the kick up the a..e i needed!!!!

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Gaugemaster DCC80 Autofrogs

I use something similar on my layout 
http://tamvalleydepot.com/products/dccfrogjuicers.html    and I am very happy with that concept.

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What make figures are you using?


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Mixture. The railway gang near the lineside hut at AC Stadden. Most others are PD Marsh, Airfix, Prieser and Dapol.

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georgejacksongenius wrote: Hi Ian,
          I've only just discovered this excellent layout!Some real quality modelling going on.It oozes with LMS period atmosphere,and the lamp-lit evening shots are amazing.I also love the idea of 75%  sized buidings at the rear to give an impression of greater depth!That's deffo one trick to remember.
          Looking forward to more posts in the near future.

Cheers,John.B. ;-)


Me too!  I endorse what John has said and am very impressed.


Ken.

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Congratulations on the header photo, nice choice Spurno, must have been tough, there is a great selection.
I'm particularly impressed with the wood on the hillside between the engine shed and the church Ian.

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Nice layout and some great photos.  Once again YMRC shows us what others are up to and shames us into making what we do better.  Isn't that the point??

Look forward to your new photos Ian.

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The header pic must have been a tough choice, Alan.

So many excellent ones of an excellent layout.  :thumbs

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So many to choose as you say Max but i think the one i chose is a real stunner.

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Thank you all once again. Makes me very proud when one of my pictures makes it to the home page! All of the comments are very kind and i am glad you all enjoy the layout. Hopefully i will make more progress in a week or two. Take care. Ian

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Marty wrote: Congratulations on the header photo, nice choice Spurno, must have been tough, there is a great selection.
I'm particularly impressed with the wood on the hillside between the engine shed and the church Ian.

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Thank you Marty - the trees that you can see along the front edges are Seamoss covered with spray adhesive and sprinkled various scatters, fine, medium and coarse grade (mostly woodland scenics).

The bigger trees are large twigs (from a type of hedgrow - centre of the twig is spongy), with several holes drilled out to take Seamoss sprigs. This then gives the impression of several larger branches, with lots of smaller ones branching out.

The trees towards the back corner of the wooded area are twigs covered over with a netting of polyfibre and then  pushed down to give a bit of shape. Again covered in various scatters. This was much quicker than making a hundred individual trees when you would really see them. I glued a few twigs on the back scene, sprayed carpet glue direct tot he backscene and then stuck Woodland Scenics Undergrowth, bushes and clumps to it to make a tree shape. I like trying out different techniques to achieve differing results - some work well, others don't. It helps when others comment on what they think works and what doesn't as everyone else looks at the layout from different perspectives. I get caught up in the "that will do" rather than rip it up and start again.






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IanLMS wrote: Mixture. The railway gang near the lineside hut at AC Stadden. Most others are PD Marsh, Airfix, Prieser and Dapol.
Adding a bit more detail as original post was sent from my phone.

The article on YMRC covering modifying Dapol figures gave me the inspiration to take standard Dapol figures, decapitate and dismember them in the most horrific fashion, then re-assemble them like I was Dr Frankenstein to give different poses and a variety of scenes/cameo's. Adding different luggage, removing and replacing other parts also added to the interest. Ideal for general passengers, track workers etc. I found Dapol and most other plastic figures suit 1950's/60's onwards, but you can get away with it with subtle colours and trimming here and there.


AC Stadden really are superb figures and his Edwardian Workers range are easily modified to suit a slightly later period and mens clothing doesn't change much decade to decade. I used them around the loco shed and platelayers hut. He also does some very elegant Edwardian women but the dress only applies to that time frame and not easily modified.


A lot of special figures are from the Dart Castings range which again are superb and fit well in the 1930's period i am modelling. Most of my horses are from Dart, and quite a few "particular" folk - man standing under lamp, housewife in front of cottage, Porters, Postman, painter etc.

The Airfix figures were the hardest to work with. I had a box of Airfix Luftwaffe Airmen lying around and with a bit of fettling, i could turn them into useful figures on the layout. The plastic is very soft and does not take well to filing or sanding - it just furs up. Slices with a very sharp knife or using a hot blade to melt them shape was the only way. The guy kneeling down patting his daughter is an Airfix figure, originally holding up a bomb. Take the bomb away, trim his Luftwaffe cap and modify his uniform and I thought he fitted in well.


AC Stadden Figures, tools and hut by Severn Models.



Mixture of Dapol & Dart Castings figures. LMS Benches are from Scalelink. Swan neck lamps from Frizzinghall Model Centre



Man kneeling down is from Airfix Luftwaffe Airmen (1980's). Woman and child are from Dapol. Need to repaint the woman - colours seem too bright for rural North England in the 1930's!


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Hi Ian.  Excellent layout, good to go by any standards. Nice panel but is it wired in? Or does it have a separate cablemaking it pluggable?    All the best. Kevin

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Hi Kevin. Thank you for the comments. The panel is all wired in. Wiring is a mess but this will be reduced when i convert the points to DCC control. 

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Good morning folks,
Again, time has lapsed and its already 3 months since I last posted on here. Lots have happened since and the jobs/kit box list just keeps growing and growing.

I am half way through re-building the top left corner of the layout after ripping up the track and adding an extra road to the fiddle yard. It did mean I had to lose the river, Duchess pub and Station Masters house, but I think in the end it will look better. I will build in a 1930's garage/workshop diorama and if space permits, I might be able to squeeze in a blacksmith's forge as well. We will see.

Conversion to full DCC control is complete except a few old loco's to convert. I have utilized 4 x DCC Concepts ADS-8FX Solenoid point control decoders for use with my z21 and Android tablet. I have also re-wired the control panel and the point direction is shown via several LED's. The only annoying fact about the ADS-8FX is the loss of memory when you power off. I believe it has been rectified in the more expensive ADS-8SX model. I use Peco PL-13 and PL-15 switches for the frog polarity and a few DCC 80 Auto-frogs for the hidden sidings (work a treat).

I also heavily modified an old Airfix 4F which I picked up from Ebay for £18. The Brassmasters detailing kit, splashers and other mods cost an additional £50. Even though I could buy a new Hornby/Bachmann model for less, it was learning the art of modifying/improving/kit building and creating something different that to me, is priceless.

I also added a few more details to the loco service area. Here are some pics to chew over.

Thank you
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Hi Ian. Good luck with your magnificent railway, a bit ambitious for me.  Memory loss? I have that problem, I put something down a I forget where I put it:mutley. Seriously though I have about a dozen assorted Loco s that are DC . Amongst them one new Hornby A1x Terrier , the rest including two Dapol Pugs, Hornby Pugs , even an ancient tender driven Schools class. Sorry for hijacking your thread but where do I start??    Best wishes.  Kevin

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No problem with hijacking! I don't mind at all - I could suggest to DCC Concepts that they need to do something to help the poor old ADS-8FX's develop their grey matter more, but to me, a cheap bolt on modification (under a tenner) would really help those that shelled out several hundred pounds on a poorly designed accessory decoder.

With my conversions I started with my favourite  DCC Ready models (3F, 4F, Black 5, Royal Scot) and then I moved onto my old Mainline Jubilee's (1 of 3). Still have a few more to convert mind so we will see how it goes. In the Jubilee I tender mounted the decoder. Easier than hacking chunks of metal chassis off!

Good luck with your layout!
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So, after the summer heat destroyed some of the track in the left hand side of the layout (i left the window blind open), I have been working hard on re-modelling the area. I wanted to add a road to my hidden siding and change the route of the track, reduce the tightness of the curve and improve the scenics. I have almost completed the re-modelling of the area and now in the detailing stage. I have added a Scalescenes garage/workshop (covered in the Scalescenes area of the forum) as well as re-routed the road. I also re-built the bridge.







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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Ian. Good luck with your magnificent railway, a bit ambitious for me.  Memory loss? I have that problem, I put something down a I forget where I put it:mutley. Seriously though I have about a dozen assorted Loco s that are DCC . Amongst them one new Hornby A1x Terrier , the rest including two Dapol Pugs, Hornby Pugs , even an ancient tender driven Schools class. Sorry for hijacking your thread but where do I start??    Best wishes KevinHi Ian   Thank you for your reply.  I meant to type Direct Current Locos . That need converting to DCC , if only I could find the inspiration to do them?    Best wishes. Kevin

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Passed Driver wrote: Passed Driver wrote: Hi Ian. Good luck with your magnificent railway, a bit ambitious for me.  Memory loss? I have that problem, I put something down a I forget where I put it:mutley. Seriously though I have about a dozen assorted Loco s that are DCC . Amongst them one new Hornby A1x Terrier , the rest including two Dapol Pugs, Hornby Pugs , even an ancient tender driven Schools class. Sorry for hijacking your thread but where do I start??    Best wishes KevinHi Ian   Thank you for your reply.  I meant to type Direct Current Locos . That need converting to DCC , if only I could find the inspiration to do them?    Best wishes. KevinConverting to DCC is not too difficult providing you are willing to take the time to do it. Finding a space inside a small loco to fit a chip, especially a tank loco is the biggest challenge. Once you have overcome that, the rest is just soldering and wiring up the chip and harness. I started with the Peco Railway Modeller guides on DCC Conversion, articles in the modelling press and looking online for hints/tips. Asking a question on this forum in the relevant topic  will generate responses and guides from those that have converted similar locos. Chose the least valuable or least desirable loco you have and make that the one to learn from. Failing that, buy a dirt cheap running loco from Ebay or a show. It wont matter then if you hack it about, or if it fails.

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Hi Ian.  Thank you again. I have already asked the questions, several times, it is the inspiration that I am short of.Best wishes. Kevin

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Have to agree about the ADS -8fx accesary units , i bought two to control points and LED signals , out of the 16 ways available i managed to get just 1 working , one unit buzzing away ,and the cdu,s too weak to work properly. a waste of money and a lot of time,   Puts me off any other of thier products .

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sparky wrote: Have to agree about the ADS -8fx accesary units , i bought two to control points and LED signals , out of the 16 ways available i managed to get just 1 working , one unit buzzing away ,and the cdu,s too weak to work properly. a waste of money and a lot of time,   Puts me off any other of thier products .


I would feed your problems direct to Richard Johnson rejohnson@dccconcepts.com
Normally they are pretty good on answering and sorting out their products


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Passed Driver wrote: Hi Ian.  Thank you again. I have already asked the questions, several times, it is the inspiration that I am short of.Best wishes. Kevin
Not sure i can help with inspiration lol? When i get around to converting my next loco i will post pics of the process which will hopefully inspire you. Best wishes and Merry Christmas. Hopefully Father Christmas will bring u either a nice model or bucket of inspiration and motivation

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Thank you   Ian. When I was working , I didn’t have much spare time, now I have loads of time! but no structure , no timetable to work to.   Best wishes. Kevin

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Ian,

I've just read through the whole thread for the first time and I'm very impressed with what you've achieved. You've obviously got an eye for detail and there's a consistency to your modelling that brings everything together.

I shall look forward to seeing more photos.

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I cant believe it was December when I last posted on my layout thread, although I have been keeping busy with different topics such as the LMS horsebox, Scalescenes garage/workshop etc. 
So, concerning the layout itself, I am now in the process on filling in the access gap. This area is used to access the hidden sidings under the tunnel/hillside. I need to retain the access, so the infills need to be hinged/removable.

The one on the left is hinged, the one on the right is completely removable. I covered the boards/framework with a Javis grass mat, which i then covered with static grass and a variety of flocks. When its finished it will hopefully complete the appearance that the railway runs through the scenery. The original gap was a little unsightly!

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After: Stage 1 - main structure


Stage 2: Static grass/flock


Stage 3: Blending in higher fields and toning down track colour etc. The section next to the nearside wall is removable (seen on top of the takeaway tubs in Stage 2) to allow the board to hinge up.


Next phase is to add a few bushes/shrubs and more livestock. I have enough sheep so will probably go for cattle this time.

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Here are a couple more photo's from around the layout:
Pic 1: a flock of sheep in Church Lane on the way down to the market via a trip on the local train.



Pic 2: LMS patriot on the Down Line with a passenger train passing the permanent way team on a break!


A more nostalgic view


Church Farm with the lights on!




And finally, my very first, fully completed brass kit - Falcon LMS Horsebox carrying my scratchbuilt magnetic coupling system I am developing.

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Great cameos Ian, and I like the way you've made the railway 'fit' into the landscape :thumbs :thumbs :thumbs


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Hi Ian.   This is my second reply with a question “ How can I squeeze scenery like this into a Four foot by Fourteen inch Shunting Puzzle ?” :hmm   Best wishes. Kevin

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Thank you all for the kind comments. It looks better now the gap is filled, however, it adds additional pain when I need to clean the tracks and save derailed vehicles from under the tunnel. Still, as long as I am able to crawl under the layout, it will be fine!!!
Good luck compressing the scenery - I have seen some great layouts making very good use of forced perspective!!!

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Hi Ian.   Thank you , that reminds me they have got? had? a Model Railway on the Severn Valley Line in OO gauge with an N Gauge running to and fro across the background which was very effective , I will have to adapt that idea.      Best wishes. Kevin

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Done well, the use of diminishing scale track, buildings, trees etc towards the rear of the layout can look very convincing. The church and farm are Scalescenes OO reduced to 75% so effectively 3mm/ft which helps. I previously had a Skaledale OO gauge farmhouse on top of the hill and it looked way too big.

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Looks great. Love the farm yard and I might have to borrow the idea of the grass mat.

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First time i had used a grass mat and for stretching over a frame and retain low weight it was ideal. Easy to fix with a hot glue gun and enhance with static grass and flocks. 

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The last few weeks I have been testing and modifying my magnetic coupling system, and at the same time I decided to modify a couple of R-T-R cattle wagons. The donor wagons Bachmann and Mainline. I removed the original coupling and mounting points, replaced the buffers with Lanarkshire Models ones, replaced the over-scale plastic bars with brass wire and weathered them. I also replaced the wheels on the Mainline wagon with some Alan Gibson spoked wheels. The wagon coupled to the loco is a Parkside Dundas kit.





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To add to the magnetic coupling system, I have also been trying out replica vacuum hoses using 1mm elastic cord and 2mm x 0.5mm magnets. Based on an idea from the US, just a little simpler and cheaper. 



Ignore missing buffer head - will be replaced soon!!!


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Hi Ian. Very good indeed, looking authentic too. For me I have invested my money and effort on Kadee couplers, but of course they are only for wagons.  Best wishes. Kevin

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Hi Ian,
Just discovered your thread. Your work is an inspiration.

Keep the posts coming.

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Thank you Dave. Work on the layout and operating it has given way to building loco kits. I have posted them seperately on the forum. Currently working on a Comet Stove R full brake coach. I still have 2 more locos plus several wagons but i might take a breaj and return to detailing the layout and just playing trains. 
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Hi Ian.   I forgot to ask, how do the “Replica Vacuum Pipes” work for Uncoupling ?   Best wishes.  Kevin

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They have magnets both ends and simply part when u pull the coach away one end. I cannot fathom a way of auto uncoupling but i tend to keep my coaches in a fixed rake so the hoses are more cosmetic. I put one magnet on the end of a cast vac hose and use a 10mm length of 1mm elastic  with magnets on each end which connect between. I also have tried nails in the buffer beam to connect the hoses to which also works. Its in its infancy and early stages and i am sure it can be perfected with time and inginuity. Neither of whuch i have a lot of.

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Hi Ian. Thank you.  Is “Replica” the brand name or did you mean similar ? I do have some older Hornby carriages, not only wagons.    Best wishes. Kevin

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Replica Railways is a brand name of a manufacturer who made coaches. I am not sure but they might have been part of Bachmann. They have green boxes and apparently are good quality and fairly accurate. 

Edit. I also used the word replica in an earlier post but this referred to a vacuum hose.  This was reference to "similar". I use Lanarkshire Models and 51L white metal vacuum and steam hoses as the plastic ones that come with the kit arent usually that good.

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These are the reasons why I havent posted much on the layout thread lately!
SE Finecast LMS 4F kit




Craftsman 1P 0-4-4T kit

Now working on a Comet Stove R brake van, then I have a Model Loc Ltd/DJH Black 5 and a Western Precision Castings LMS 3F Jinty to build, along with several Parkside Dundas vans and Ratio coaches.

After the Stove R I might revert to working on the layout again. I have 2 ADS-8SX DCC accessory decoders to install which will replace my old ADS-8FX's plus signals and lots of other detail. Looks like I will be busy for the next few years!!!. 

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Latest addition to the inventory on Jencaster. A Comet LMS Stove R kit just recently completed.

A few things could have been better, notably the roof, but overall I am happy with the outcome. I used microscope slide covers for the glass, Pressfix lining and letters, Railmatch Crimson Lake, and fitted it with my magnetci couplings. 





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Some beautiful modelling Ian - a joy to see.  Are most of your buildings card?  They look great.  Mine never seem to come out looking so lifelike.  More practice I think!

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Thank you Michael. The majority are Scalescenes downloadable card kits. I have an etched brass platelayers hut and now a stables. The station building, goods shed and engine shed are scratchbuilt using foamboard and embossed styrene. The signal box is a ratio kit. 

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Here are a few little side projects I have been working on lately - I am trying to work my way through my box of kits and still have loads to do. Some of them are complete build kits, and some are detailing kits/parts for RTR loco's. 
 
First up is a Western Precision Cotswold 3F Jinty - this appeared to be a very old kit, with chunky white metal castings, a solid brass chassis and very few detailing items. The kit took a lot of fettling to get it to fit correctly as the tanks didnt line up with the boiler so was either too wide, or pushed the boiler too far forward. I managed to file a lots off, fill the gaps with low melt and make a half decent job of it. I put the solid chassis to one side and used a Comet one instead, Romford wheels and a Comet gearbox. The motor is a Matsui one. I am at the priming stage and have yet to fit pick ups etc. Chassis works fine under power. I made some sand boxes out of styrene and other details from the scrap box. I used etched coal rails from a Brassmasters kit (much better than the WM one supplied), Bachmann sprung buffers and I will fit my couplings and hoses etc after painting.
 
One thing I did notice though on the Comet 3F chassis, the middle bearing position is higher than the outer two. I assume its to factor in the centre rubber tyres wheel. I cut out the area where the bearing sits, lowered it, and then re-soldered. I could have gone sown the hornblock route which is probably the best thing to do, but as always, I am far too imaptient to wait for them to arrive, remove the bearings etc and fit them.




 
I have also been building a few Parkside Dundas kits - 2 cattle vans, a fish van and a CCT. These went together easily and I am part way through fitting my couplings and weathering them.




 
Last up is a Railroad Hornby Patriot I have had for a while. I removed the moulded ejector pipe, moulded handrails on the cab, the thick plastic smoke deflectors, over thick boiler banding, part of the chunky metal valve gear, the horrendous front bogie and couplings.
I replaced the ejector pipe with 1mm brass rod, bent to shape, the handrails with .45 brass rod and Gibson short handrail knobs, fitted Etched smoke deflectors from Phoenix Precision, Comet etched brass front bogie with Romford wheels, re-painted using Pheonix Crimson Lake and lined it (incorrect yellow mind and not very well done I have to admit) using HMRS loco lining. I also fitted my magnetic couplings. I replaced the glass with Krystal Klear and its now ready for weathering.


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Hi Ian. I can see that you are very industrious . Are they three link Couplings, and how do you uncouple them???I have been working on Kadee Couplings for my wagons, and they are very efficient, but, I am considering a three link Couplings if they are as reliable as the Kadees? After being happy with the performance of the Kadees thought that I would have a go with more traditional three link or screw link Couplings.  Best wishes Kevin 

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Hi Kevin. They are magnets attached to screw link couplings. I havent fathomed out auto uncoupling yet so they just pull apart

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Update on the 3F Jinty - After a week or two of issues with the chassis, I finally sorted it out.The higher centre axle is as intended by Comet - apparently, this is to help with movement around curves. So, after I bodged it up by cutting out and re-locating the centre hornblock, I fitted a pair of Alan Gibson sprung hornblocks. This solved that issue.
The pick-ups werent working too well either so I replaced the Nickel Silver wire with Phospher Bronze 0.30 wire and replaced the Matsumi motor with a Mashima 1620. After putting it all back together, sorting a short or two out, the chassis ran well enough on DC to convert to DCC. I purchased a new Zimo MX623 chip and programmed it. Everything ran perfectly.

I have now painted the body, fitted decals, crew, etc and the loco is now ready for weathering.







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Here is the latest edition to the collection. A Model Loco Ltd/DJH Armstrong-Whitworth LMS Black 5. I purchased the kit off Ebay and the previous owner had part constrcuted the chassis and body. The chassis was good, however, I had to dismantle the lovely valve gear etc to paint the chassis and in doing so, ruined his hard work and replaced it with my ham-fisted attempt.
The body had been built using Epoxy and super-glue. The super-glued parts came away easy enough so cleaned them up and solders the joints instead. Some of the Epoxy joins were good enough so left them alone.

Just the weathering to do now and it will be complete.






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Here is the Jinty after weathering.


I am also working on a small diorama using 4 of the etched brass workshop/stables/storage sheds from Severn Models. I have painted/weathered them, just waiting to set them out to see how they look before planting them, adding figures and additional detail. Pics to follow.

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I really like the spacious nature of this lovely layout. I look forward to seeing more as it develops. Bob

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Thanks Bob. I keep getting distracted with kit building though!! Will be back to the layout soon though!

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Hi Ian,

I mirror what Bob says above. The layout is looking wonderful.

Also good to see your loco builds going from strength to strength and I'm looking forward to following your example with some of my own very soon.

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Lovely, lovely work Ian.  I could and would never try to build a loco - but that is what is great about this hobby, so many different skills and interests.  Bob has it just right, your layout has such a lovely feeling of space.  I love loking at your work!

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Here is a couple of little scenic items i had been working on. I have built some of the very fine Severn models brass kits, namely the stables and workshop and decided i would use them to depict a shunting horse scene.




I am also re laying the track into a more prototypical configuration. I have remived the diamind crossing and double slip and replaced then with single slips. I was advised of the incorrect layout when trying to fathom out the signalling. I am also installing DCC concepts point rodding. Pics to follow!

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Great scene Ian :thumbs


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And another loco build. This is my Millholme LMS Patriot i built and named in "The Unknown Warrior" using nameplates from the LMS patriot society shop.

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The last few months have seen me busy with signalling the layout, replacing incorrectly facing point work, installing point rodding and re-ballasting.

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Pointrodding is a combination of DCC Concepts and Comet. Signals are brass kits from MSE and modified Ratio signals using MSE components. 

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Latest project is construction of some old Parkside and Airfix wagon kits. First two picks show them painted and weathered. The third is 3 of 4 cattle vans awaiting painting etc.





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That is an excellent finish!  I have a few wagons to paint,unpainted Dapol ones I got cheap on Ebay.  Any chance of a walk through, or any tips, as I've never done it before.
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I'm really glad I decided to sit down and spend a bit of time on here. Marvellous modelling skills you have there. I particularly like the trees on the steep embankment, they really look the part. Thanks for all the pic's.

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Lovely picture Ian, very atmospheric!

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Hi Ian,

Just a quick thank you for sharing your love of railways and modelling. Your layout and stock modelling is fabulous, yet sensitive to the prototype and the forced perspective is right up my street. 

I've been dipping in and out of your thread over the last couple of days and had a pleasant complete read through yesterday, which helped refocus my mind as I recover from the loss of a dear departed pet and I've set up a trusty old modelling table in a cosy nook, with tools and materials, ready for my winter return to modelling.

There are so many well executed cameos on Jencaster and I particularly admire the horse shunting.

Great stuff and I'm following with great interest.

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PS. Well deserved 'Picture of the Week'.

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S’mae Ian


I agree, a well deserved Pic of the Week – point rodding, working signals, impressive scenery - one day my layout may look like that, one day….


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I couldn't resist, Ian. Please will yo u tell me about the horse, it's nice to see a reasonably authentic harness, etc.

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Erm, er, I thought it was an early dual carriageway overbridge...... :oops:

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Wow - thank you all so much, 1, for the very kind comments and 2, for the Pic of the Week! I wish now I had taken the photo with the lift out field back in its rightful place! You can see the field in its place just to the right of the pic below.

Chubber - I really liked the pic of the edited backscene! Definitely something to think about for the future!
Bill - losing a loved one is never easy. I have lost several pets over the years and its heartbreaking. Its always the railway or other hobbies that have really helped me through those difficult times though. 








Painting the wagons starts with a good clean using soda crystals and a toothbrush followed by a blow dry using a hair-dryer.

I then prime using standard rattle cans from either Citadel, Carplan or Humbrol. Depending on the finish colour, I try to match the primer. ie - if its Bauxite or LMS Crimson finish, I use Citadel Red primer. If its grey/black finish I use Citadel or Humbrol grey primer. If its a brass model, I use Carplan or Phoenix Precision Paints etching primer.

Finish coats are generally Phoenix Precision Paints for Bauxite/LMS Crimson via an airbush, but can be painted by brush if suitably thinned. Transfers are from Model Master and/or HMRS, covered over using brush on Vallejo matt varnish.



Weathering is something I am still learning and trying out. The very worn wagon started off Citadel Grey. I then brush painted each plank individually using Lifecolor Rail Weathering and Lifecolor Stone paints. They will only go on a matt surface so the matt varnish is definitely needed if you paint using Satin or Gloss. 



I mix and vary the shades simply by putting blobs of different colours and blending them as I go. I then finished off with an overall wash of Sleeper grime (a dirty brown/grey) just to tone everything down a bit.



Underfame etc uses a wash of Track Dirt, followed by application of a mix of orange/brown pastels from "Wilko's which I scrape to create a powder. At £3 a pack for around 10 different colours, it is good value.



Final step is to lightly airbrush a mist of Frame dirt over the underframe and slightly up the sides/ends of the wagons. 



The horse is a White Metal one from Dart Castings and comes already cast with harness etc moulded in - I think it is called a Suffolk Punch and painted using Citadel Chaos Black/Humbrol Matt Black. The harness etc is picked out using Humbrol Tan Leather. I googled "shunting horses" and several images came up for inspiration and guidance. I used beige thread for ropes, suitably dirtied with mucky fingers!



 Hope this helps and thank you all once again for your lovely comments!



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Just a couple of pics from around the layout I though you might enjoy, some of which may have already been posted either her on in other topics.

Scalescenes garage with Scale-link garage detailing pack, Wills workshop pack, Severn Models workshop and shed tools and an Oxford Autsin 7 


Dapol footbridge suitably modified to fit the space - I reduced the width by removing one section and reduced the height by removing a section of steps and support brackets. 


A local gentleman, not long after the leaving the local waiting for his friend to alight the local passenger train due in shortly. The patch on his knee was not intentional, but is probably accurate for the period i'm modelling - repair everything was the order of the day, not like the throw away society we live in!

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Yes, a backscene is needed :)



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"The horse is a White Metal one from Dart Castings and comes already cast with harness etc moulded in..."


Thank you, duly noted. My experience was with Shires and Clydesdales with tip-carts and a brewery dray, sadly not with beer thereon!

Douglas aka Chubber

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Phil.c wrote: Yes, a backscene is needed :)



That looks so good!!!! Now i need to get one printed!!!

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ID backscenes ;-)

https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/backscenes

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Took a good look over the weekend and those ID backscenes really do look good. Added to my evergrowing wish list! Thank you!
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