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Yes, Nigel.  I've been on the O gauge forum and got some pretty good reference photos.

Yesterday I was at my friend's place, who runs On3 olde worlde narrow gauge.  Close inspection of his stock shows cut levers.

Have a look at his layout.  It makes me want to stick my head in the oven - pointless, as it's electric, I know.  :lol:

http://www.nmra.org.au/Layout_Tours/Peter%20Jackson%202/indexb.html

Dunno why the link has decided not to work.  :twisted:



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http://www.nmra.org.au/Layout_Tours/Layouts_NG.html

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Hi Max,

That's some seriously great modeling. I keep feeling the tug of O-narrow gauge, keeps getting stronger, radio-control, battery power, garden layout. I have a Bagnall quarry 0-4-0 white metal kit that I didn't get around to building somewhere.....plus all that Bachmann On30 stock is cheap and reliable. And I've always fancied a go at an 0-4-0 or 0-6-0 Sentinel.

I'm gussying up some old Athearn Blue Box freight cars at the moment, when I've done adding the cut levers and air lines I'll post some photo's. Be a darn site easier in O scale!

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I'm looking forward to seeing that, Nigel.   :thumbs



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Anyway, I've painted the first car - the hopper . . .



It's a bit green, but the weathering powders will tone that down.

It's ready for the decals and weathering.

I connected up the decoder and the couplers open and close - UNTIL I TRIED TO CHANGE ADDRESS.

Now nothing works.  I've yet to buy something from DCC Concepts which doesn't give me grief!

I can't remember the work around I used last time.

This is the same problem I had with these DCC Concepts decoders.  I try to support local businesses, but every time I try, they let me down.

Anyway, I've written to their so called tech support.  Who knows if they will get back to me



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I guess the default address is 3? do you need a motor across programming track to give a load so the decoder will change address?



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It's a function only decoder, Sol so it shouldn't need a load.

However, I did try a 10 Ohm resistor across the rails.  Same result.

I remember last time I used these decoders, I had the Devil of a time trying to change addresses.

Stupid me.  I should have bought a quality decoder.  :roll:



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A 10 ohm resistor across rails is not a load on the decoder but I see what you mean by a function decoder.



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Some function only decoders did need a 100ohm resistor in one of the function wires.



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Yep.  Hasn't helped, Ian.



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Also tried F7  >  CV 17 = 192 and  CV 18 = 11   For address 11.

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I have TCS function only decoders that show same symptoms as Max's DCCconcepts decoders.

 I have overcome the problem by putting a tail light globe between green & blue wires on decoder.

 Also, putting a loco in tandem on program track (F8 on lenz) with F-only decoder also works.

 Change address on loco back after.

 Don't know why, but a motor, globe or resistor across program track rails does not work.

 Cheers

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Looks like the Lenz doesn't like DCC Concepts decoders.  :twisted:

I just took a 170 km round trip to Sol's place.

He popped it on the NCE and programmed it instantly.

I'll never say anything bad about NCE again.  :oops:

I have seven more to programme - that's 1190 km!



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Hi Max,

NCE looking hopper.

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That hopper looks even better painted than it did in the raw. Shame about the decoders giving you grief trying to program them.

Speaking of coupler cut bars, maybe that'll be the next trendy upgrade: operating, magnetically-actuated coupler cut bars to allow simple remote uncoupling in HO and maybe N without the faux-brake line trip pins (since people are whining about those now)



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Thanks, Brendan.  Protocraft make O scale cut levers which operate the couplers.  I guess I could have employed the memory wire to actuate them, but I went for the cotton instead.

Funny how it sometimes comes back to a piece of string.  :lol:



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Sounds like the same situation that once existed between Digitrax decoders and Lenz.

 It was not the fault of system, Digitrax decoders were not compatible with some systems.

 I believe situation has been rectified with more modern  D decoders.



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Once again, no decals and/or weathering.

The couplers open and close on address 3.  I've bought an auto stop/tail lamp to give Ian's suggestion a go.

Interestingly, I found an email this morning from Peter at DCC Concepts saying that he is going to borrow a Lenz system and see if he can figure out how to change the address.

It's a public holiday here today, so I don't expect any results until maybe tomorrow.



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Underneath the flat car . . .




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Looks to be a good, sturdy job with a nicely-detailed brake system.



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