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        I have just ordered the wood for the baseboards and struts, the legs are 4 inch square timber, seeing as its not going anywhere, the stronger and sturdier the better and safer for all; will start construction proper when this horrid hot weather is finished, it plays havoc with my health problems, nothing to serious as such but, silly to just go gun ho and suffer unnecessarily and as such, impact on construction work and progres. ;D  
           When the wood work part is completed will offer up some pictures to show just what things are like and, we can progress from there onwards,so, till then.............  

                                                  My very best regards to all..............Tom........... :) ;) 8)    

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Found your new Thread,

The hard work starts now, sawing wood!

ATB,

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Good luck with it Tom :thumbs

No doubt it's not going to stay too hot for very long.

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Hi Tom,

So the adventure begins. All that fun, no problems, but I dare say a few challenges and hopefully you'll keep smiling!

The weather will change, but we'll always have our railways. Good luck with the build.

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Hi All,
       Well, two things today, first, had to have my retina scan for type 2 diabetes, and second, the remaining wood for the build came all ready now to make the actual start, have one box of 25  yds of track 009, but think i may have to get the lighting units for the garage before i get the second box of track, i mean, i do need to see what i am doing, mmmmmmmmm, i think!!!!! :laugh:.
        So will not belong till i get the first pictures of the bases shown erected and ready for planing stage, and, between that and the first track laying, there will be much chopping and changing like most layouts, so till then...............
                                                        Very best regards to all.............Tom....... :) ;) 8)  

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let us hope it cools down a bit then, too much heavy sweating could make the wood warp:thud
will follow this with interest,
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Well at least it is cooling a little mate, no warping so far :lol::lol:, getting some screws and other things then its all go, well, as far as the boards are concerned, not sure if i`ll get florescent lighting or, the bulb come tube types you can get now:???:, what are you lot using at the moment, must cover lengths of 10 ft plus 12 ft plus 14 ft, and, a possible tail section making it look like an "G", as near a shape as one can say............

                                               All my best and regards...........................Tom.......:);-):cool:

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Hi Tom,

I took my tubes down and repalced all mine with GU10 downlighters fitted with day light led's.
All I can say is 'ITS BRIGHT' a little expensive on the LED front but Amazon can up trumps these are what I bought
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00UXIS3Q2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
Check out my page and I have some images up.

ATB,
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Well, have received the wood and, got some wood screws and made a start on the cutting to the lengths the pieces required, so, i have now made a true start, more to follow...........
                                                          Best regards to all,      Tom............:);-):cool:

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Good Luck with the build , Tom.  :thumbs

I've just sold two of my layouts and I'm looking forward to starting on a new one.



I reckon that it's the most exciting part; starting with a blank canvas.

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Hi Max,
           Agreed, i have just started phase 1, frame work for base boards and going OK, will complete this task before i start to fix the boards up, and, their 4 inch legs, ain`t going any where fast :lol:, will let you all know as i get to the next phase, should be very soon..........
                                                My regards and best......................Tom.......:);-):cool:

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Looking forward to the rest of the build Tom. Sounds like you are a man with a plan:lol:

Keep us updated.

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Hi ALL,            Well, just put in place two sections of the layout, just need to erect the final section and then, onwards to laying the tops; must say that its rather annoying as, when i looked at the walls they seem rather nice and straight and true , mmmmmmmmmmm, when i started to erect the first section, it went right out of measure at one end, then, as i re aligned this end, the other end went out   .            I now have noticed that when i did the legs measurements, guess who forgot to add the fact that i was going to use a carpet then, mmmmmm , yes, ME!!   , plus, now with the sections in place, i see how much now, the true nature of the walls are out , still, these sections are up now and, i don`t see too much of a problem but may need to do a little bit of this or that if the need comes up .             So, i have only a couple of sections to finish then onto the top skinning as i put it, then, planing will take place full on, but, will post some pics on the finish boards as is so you can all see the room i have to work with, so till then...........                                                  Best regards to all.......................Tom.....   

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Sounds like your cracking the whip there Tom :roll:

I can visualise where and what your doing as I am pretty much in the same boat.
Maybe you would like to include some photos to show us your progress?

ATB,

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Good evening to every one,:)
       Well, i have just finished the baseboards, seemed to go ok, found as mentioned before, my garage is not to square as seemed  :???:;-), but, at least it looks nice and flat and basically square, so, that will do for now, so, on to the painting of the surface, thinking brown, usual thing, nothing special their ;), o yes, i also have the lighting sorted out and working fine; my disablements and shattered left shoulder of two years past, ( around 12 places as such so they tell me :cry: ), also give very bad range of usage so, not able to reach up as high or move as to many movements as i did before, never mind tho`..;-)
       Due to my problems the baseboards and lighting have taken a little more time than i had envisaged, still, now all that is needed is to cover the joins in the tops and as i say, coat it with brown emulsion pain as per!!, after which i do promise to take and post some pictures of the build to present state and then you will all get a good idea of the layout proper, track plane still under revision, in shore, not much point in thinking about that side till the build got to this finish stage so, im thinking DERrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::roll::shock::???:;-).....
                                              So till later people, my best regards and thanks.......................Tom................ :);-):cool:

PS....Needing a new chair for my model room, i was very happy to see some person dumped a used!!!, comfy computer chair in our skip, so a little renovation to said chair and, thank you very much, one nice comfy chair for yours truly....;-):lol:.....

                                                                               Cheers...........Tom....

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All great fun Tom.

Looking forward to the photo's and an idea of the track plan. Keep bashing on.

Cheers

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 Hi ALL,       Well firstly, sorry for the horrible yellow look, my Fujifilm finepix camera seems not to like the garage lighting    , and, my PSP is unable to rectify the end result, still onwards and up wards, advice on this matter gladly accepted ; please also note the important Radio and Clock , still, i hope this will give a good idea of the area and state of play as of today, also having problems in Rugby town of getting some small tin of a dark brown emulsion paint, most seem to be rather large and i am NOT paying £12 odds for a paint just for this ....        I hope as stated, that, you all are happy with this picture set of the forth coming build and i shall upload as and when things get going properly, or, anything of merit that is, many thanks and best regards to every one............                                                                                                         Tom.................   

















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Hi Tom,would test pots be the right size for you?.

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Hi Tom,

Good work on the baseboards. The yellow tinge is your fluorescent lighting. Look on your camera settings and see what they are at. I suspect it may be set at incandescent. There will be another option for you on the menu, it may actually say fluorescent. Change the settings and try again.

Looking good anyway.

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A great start, Tom.  Like Toto says, check your settings.

It looks kinda curry flavoured.  Curry is good.  :lol:

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Hi Both,
         Have looked at my camera settings and, alas, i do not see any setting for florescent lighting so, any other ideas, please, tell me, the pictures really do suck as they say :???::sad::roll:.....

                                               Thanks and very best regards.....................Tom......:);-):cool:


PS................As you where, yes!!!:roll:, it has Fl 1   Fl  2   &   Fl 3, wonder which will be the correct setting:???:, will just have to test some shots i guess, again, many thanks chaps; Tom, how the retina test mate???, mine said, " lights on, no one home,":lol::lol:....wife could of told them that:twisted::lol::lol:.......
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I've changed my fluros to triphosphor tubes, which seem to have a bluer white, Tom.

Worth a try?

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In my office we have what they called daylight tubes fitted which give you 6500k lighting which they claim is the nearest to natural daylight.

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Natural daylight being 7200 kelvin I believe although don't quote me on that.

Note to self ........ Stop putting yourself up just to be shot down again:hmm

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Hi all,     Well, relatives came round today so, no modelling, but, have found that my best radius is 9", also, i have a question and its this, should i affix to the boards tops a covering of dense styrene so that i could carve out for rivers canals say 2" thick, and the like more easily than altering the boards proper, also, what styrene sheet if i were to do so would be the most usable, and thinking that, it would allow basement fixing for all building used on the layout; would temperatures, summer winter, cause this type of material to twist etc shape change if you will, or, is it 100% stable under these types of extremes   .......any ways, im back on the project tomorrow so more as soon as i get to it, will look out for your welcomed advice.......                                                                                  
                                                        Many thanks and best regards to all.................Tom   

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Hi all,          Well, i have just about finalised my track plan this evening, am keeping away from having levels of track and just keeping to the flat as such, will cut into the base board top as required to offer streams and the like, the over all size usable is as follows:-, first board 8 ft 9 in then turns right for a boards of 9 ft 1 in turning right for a boards of 12 ft 6 in,  the end of this section is turning to the right for 4 ft by 2 ft and returning to the main board from whence it comes off of of a length of 3 ft 4 in, all width save the last section mentioned are 2 ft wide through out; I think i will use bog standard "N" gauge track in hidden areas as, this will save on NG track, seems daft to use the NG track where it`s not going to be scene, can use any including concrete type sleeper style track, and a little cheaper as well .        


 As soon as their is track down and things to picture, be sure they WILL appear here on the forum, at the moment tho` i have three statements and some double glazed doors to pay for  , and they are pressing so, need to get these out of the way first, but, and to close for now, have copied and printed off the time honoured Peco point templates to ascertain how many and where they are best suited for the stations etc etc, ( will have 4 stations i hope    ), and towns to compliment said stations etc etc etc...       


 Hope that covers every thing for now, mmmmmmmmmmm, yep, that`s it i think, i`ll bid all a very good night and be back very soon...............                        

                                Very best regards and grateful thanks.........................Tom..........   

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Hi Tom,

Sounds like the plan is coming together. Can't advise on the styrene I'm afraid as I have never used it but I'm sure that Gary has used it to build up landforms with no issues. There again he finished it of with a layer of plaster from memory.

There is also a huge Swiss layout on the forum at the moment which makes extensive use of styrene so I guess you'd be fine.

Let us know how you get on and remember the photo's. Sound like a very extensive layout. Looking forward to seeing you progress

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Hi All ,       Well here is a plan of what might be +/- alterations as per, the green areas are where modelling will be added with regards also respects to hiding the track which connects all station areas, the areas are shown as 1, 11, and 111, blue doted indicating the hidden section/run of track, red line is the track proper, a grey x type making is to denote that their may be a divide in this area, the freezer speaks for its self im thinking  .        I may as things unfurl, alter some aspects of this plan, but, its going in the direction i think i want it to go, so, that`s all for the moment, but it shows i am thinking and getting very near actual track laying, so,                                       


                                                        My best regards to all...................Tom.:);-):cool:



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Hi all,              OK, i have become a member of the 009 society, and, have posted about this layout i am thinking of doing:), my idea will entail some long run hidden sections, all straight runs, no point work and, having done this many times over the umpteenth time, x many decades:shock:;-), i am a little concerned at the response i have got back regarding hidden track as to make me rather weary of proceeding, in fact, i am not now sure as to what or which way my wanted layout should go.
         One person, and i understand his point is, that many people cram to much into a given space, and that, i should drop the hidden tracks and extra station areas, and, i guess he means to just go off into the sunset re a fiddle yard which to my mine is me going back wards:???::sad:, i like a definite place to aim for and return from:), so now i am not sure what to do exclam:quest:quest:quest:quest::???:.

        Any one here want to give thoughts and help me out i am more than happy to take on board all advice plus, i am now really dead in the head as to what i am trying to build and portray:shock::sad::thud.

         Many thanks and my best regards as always to every one......................................Tom.......:);-):cool:....

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Tom, 
It sounds to me that you have a good understanding of what you want in a layout... and that's the key thing, what YOU want.
It's your railway and rule one applies.
As for hidden track, just design the hills to be removable in sections or, as I have done, have an opening in the baseboard under the hills so that if something becomes stuck or derailed you can climb under the baseboard, reach up through the gap and remove the offending bit of rolling stock.
Compact polystyrene is a great way of allowing you to cut down and create a landscape, much easier than cutting into the baseboard in my opinion and a few of the guys here have successfully used that technique on their layouts.
Not sure which type you need to use though, hopefully one of the UK lads can help out here.
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Hi Tom

As Marty says, Rule 1 applies.

Wouldn't we all like the space to have trains running through a large expanse of fields and hills, but we have to compromise.

You appear to have trains leaving a station and disappearing into the countryside to then re-appear at the next station.

Can't see a problem with that, especially as narrow gauge trains tend to be pretty short. It's not as though the back of

the train would still be leaving one station as the front arrived at the next, so I can't see a problem.

You said you've modelled hidden sections before so that's not a problem either, generally your plan looks ok to me :thumbs



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Hi Tom,

Blue HD styrene foam. Treat it as balsa wood, it's got grain, and does expand and contract with temperature but not humidity. Bit of planning helps as it's easier to cut embankments, valleys and hills before gluing to the sub-surface. If you shop around you can get it from 0.5" to 4" or more. Model airplane shops have it even thinner for wings, etc. (it's white). I would recommend a hot-wire cutter, HD styrene blunts cutting knives, utility knives and bread knives beyond recovery. It sands well with emery paper, not so well with sandpaper, especially #100. Use a decent face mask and if possible do it out of the house as the dust will go everywhere. Tough to blame air pollution when it's bright blue. I used a down-draft sanding table connected to the shop-vac for this until I developed an allergy to the stuff (or the adhesive).

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Hi Tom, I wouldn,t worry what other people think of your plan, it is prototypical as it go,s from one place to another just like the real railways, and as for hidden track what is the problem? real railways ran through tunnels even narrow gauge lines, just check out the Leek and Manifold light railway on youtube, I have ridden through the tunnel on that line and it is a proper engineering masterpiece still open today to drive through! Best of luck with your project keep us informed mate.

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Hi all,
        Many grateful thanks for the encouraging input by you all, Pete, Nigel, Ed and Marty, i  certainly do thank you because its all to easy to, even at my age and length of modelling, feel that, you are just not getting their, but, i must say that i do understand the views put forwards by the person from the 009 society site, which DID, till now, make me think i was going totally the wrong way; its been a long 12 year absence from any form of model railway building and i for my sins, started when aged 5, now in my 60s, but now see my way forwards thanks to your advice and interest.
        For my part, i have now a crewed the full amount of track, 009 for the visible sections, and, straight "N" scale for all hidden parts, just need to get the points sorted and this, i think, will be on an individual station area by area, also, i think i will asses the areas for building with card to the given sizes just to see what and where things can go and what room is going to be used/ lost/ needed and left over etc etc, so, that`s the next phase of my build, pictures will follow as i get to a point in the build per section and progress etc etc etc.......

       Track is going to be pinned down as such but stuck down with PVA glue, when dried totally, pins will be removed and ballasting will be done in the time honoured way 50/50 or 60/40 PVA to water and a drop of washing up liquid re surface tension removal of!!!, so that`s about it for tonight and im away to my bed.............. 

                                          Very grateful thanks and best regards to all.....................Tom......:);-):cool:

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More than welcome... That's why we're here. It sounds like a great project and I'm looking forward to the updates..

Marty

Oh... And Bravo Nigel with the timely advice on the HD polystyrene..

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Good evening all, or is that good night:hmm:???::roll::lol:,
                           Just a very quick up date on progress, just this afternoon started the hidden track behind the first station, xxxxxxhell, did i have a right job:roll::shock:, seems that, over the last 12 years, my eyes have got rather bad at 009 size metals and the rail joiners needed, had to go and get my large modellers lens with lights on to see what i was doing and where the ruddy ends of the rails where to line up for the rail joiners, the wife's idea, and, happily, it work fine;-):):), so, it appears that at that distance of 2 ft from the front edge, im lost, thankfully, its a single line and run, and with some working out prior to fixing said track down, the correct amount was purchased, but, must admit to a little luck even so.:roll::lol::lol::doublethumb.

                           Any ways, seems i have got myself a lot of track for my intended system, the hidden being standard "N" gauge track, main track being 009 crazy, not main, its actually speaking HOe, sleepers are spaced very wrongly for UK narrow gauge systems,:shock: not British you know,  so, if all goes well, and if im careful and steady, i should, be onto the points very soon now, price etc etc and amount able to get in one go permitting, but i do have a birthday on the 27th of Aug so,:cheers my requirements will, i think, be around this sort of item, or items,we hope;-):lol:.
                         OK, time for shut eye and listen to my radio, with the dog in bed as well, YES, you read it right, from a puppy, the world revolves around dad, all ways said dogs have inherently great taste!!.......:mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley...

                                           All my very best lads and regards...............Tom.....:);-):cool:.


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Good on ya Tom.

I have to use the head mounted optivisor with its multiple magnification lenses. Couldn't do it without them.

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Hi all,
       Just a quick one, just got the first batch of points for the intermediate station section, and, stupid me, just realised that i had to get some point motors for said points:???::sad::shock::roll:, so, now will have to wait till i can afford the motors, 4 off, and, some wire to get them soldered up ready for when i get my controllers and panel system sorted, BUT!!!!, that`s towards the end part of track etc etc work as such.......

                                                        All the very best to every one...............Tom.........:);-):cool:

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Hi, back again:lol:,
             Well, i just purchased 4 off point motors "as new" via E Bay UK, used before so, am happy to do so, SO, we should be able to get the first station section, the intermediate one, Stn#2, placed and ready for a more in depth viewing of what will go where and the surrounding buildings / scenery.................
                                              That is it for now,  regards all.............Tom............:);-):cool: 

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Hi All,
          Update, not to much at the moment, have an ultra sound for a possible hernia near the navel, but, two doctor say they can't feel anything:???:, but all seems well in things that could be allied with it;-), so, if it is such, but they assure me there is nothing but just sending me to assure me:shock:, and i am going to see if i can get them to have a quick look at the old prostate, HEY!!!, same park area why not;-)??:lol:, if not to bad will work on a wait and see if i need to, as i see a lot of people do now a days as its not being a problem, hell, i did not know it was if such their till i was told to lose weight because of Type2, now down from 18.2 to just over 16.7:mrgreen::mrgreen::):cool:, in three months +/-  a week or so...                      Due to the above, i have not really felt like doing much, these things tend to do that with me, stupid i know but, their your are; I have chosen to section each station area according to the amount of scenery, buildings etc etc, and NOT, to cram way too much track as, being NG in type, it would not have a great amount of infrastructure railway wise, and, getting the correct balance is the point in question, so, a lot of card will be cut to size re buildings foot prints and we shall see how it may or may not look as far as being too cramped...
             Have a lot of items to get for the railway, setting up wise, even before i get around to the locos and stock, so, that`s a lot of OTHER!! things to get well before, bills allowing tho`:lol::lol:;-)..........

              Well, that is it for now, next Thursday for the sound scan and i hope it all pans out well, and such, will be cranking the modelling engine up to flat out, as such, so all, till then play mates............

                                              Very best regards and best.......................Tom.....:);-):cool:...

        

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Tom ,if it,s of any interest this is how i fixed and ballasted my track.
Firstly i placed the track in the position it was to be when finished .
I then marked the outside of the sleepers each side with a ball point pen ( or fine magic marker)
Remove the track ,place masking tape each side of the proposed track position ,using the pen lines as a guide ,but allow extra 3/8 inch old money each side .
Paint the track position with thickish PVA keepiong within the masking tape areas, place the track in to the PVA final position and hold temporarily with pins.
Sprinkle your ballast over the area treated with PVA ,  Before the PVA is completely dry pull away the masking tape to leave a clean edge to your ballasting.
Then pour yourself something and take a break.
When you come back.  job done.
Easier and faster to do than type this .
try a short test piece ,see how you get on.

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Take a look at Blossom Hill for an example  post 118.

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Hi all, 
      Back again, thanks Sparky, sorry for delay in responding, like your idea and working, i'll let you know how things progress in that area when i get to it, just purchased a head mag and light, comes with 6 lens and it really is powerful,:shock::) so, i  will keep the main model builder lamp and light unit in my model building room and, the head mag unit for the layout room, as the garage is now formally known as.:lol::lol:......

                                     More to come and very best regards to all........................Tom.........:);-):cool:

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Hi All,
       Just ripped up the 6 yards of track i had put down as not happy with the concept i was trying to do, also, just been to opticians and, they want me to see an eye specialist because of hereditary glaucoma mum granny cousins, etc, and because i have diabetes which can cause this eye problem in D type 1 and 2 suffers; seems that, every time i try to get started on my layout, health problems cause me to stop and start to worry about the future, or, perhaps something is trying to tell me its not really worth starting a layout due to what is going to happen to me in the near future, my depression is at an all time low and going lower, so, not sure when or if their will be an update to my modelling, won't get to see the specialist till around October, plus, it was my birthday today, i hated it:sad::sad::sad::sad:...........

                                                                    Regards............................Tom......   

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Tom don't give up mate, Fight every bloomin step of the way!  Just do one piece of track....get that right , then do another..at least that's two pieces that haven't beaten you :thumbs.  Then another and you almost have something long enough to run on even if it IS just back and forth...Go on mate  Have another go :pedal


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Every reason to get stuck into the layout then Tom, I've got a mate modelling who has significant vision loss... And he's modelling in N scale... And very successfully too... Taught me a thing or two about it.

Don't wait for the go, you'll miss the boat, just get on and do it... You know you want to and there's a great bunch of folks on here to give tips and suggestions.

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Belated Happy Birthday Tom, even if you did have a rotten day.

Lost count of how many times I've ripped up track because 'it wasn't quite right' and then relaid it. It's always worth doing as you feel much better when it's back down, even if it's not that much different from what it was in the first place.

I can only echo what Matt and Marty have said, and don't give up.

My backs got worse over the last couple of years so I can't now get under the baseboard very easily. Even if I did want to install point motors under the board it would be extremely difficult. Just have to adapt, if I do want point motors they'll have to be surface mounted and hidden under buildings etc.

There's always a way around these things and if you can just get a small section of track relaid, I'll bet you'll feel better :thumbs


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Hi Tom,

Keep going at it mate. Take it from someone who has had fair share of knocks and disappointments. Let me tell you something ........ If ever there is a place to be when your having troubles ..... Both hobby related or otherwise ....... It's here. This health lark seems to get to us all in some shape or another. I can totally sympathise with your plight and would urge you to carry on.

I've been in these dark places as well ( and not that long ago either ). As far as the layout goes, keep trying and asking all the questions you need to ........ Time and time again if need be. There will always be support. Health issues ......... If you ever want someone to have a chat with ...... Or ...... Shout and scream at ....... PM me and I'll give you my number. I've been very fortunate on this forum to have been offered the same.

Don't let it get the better of you.

Now ....... Let's go through what you want to achieve and get stared. Get something basic down to start with and then we'll take it from there.

Chin up

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Tom, I like some others on here are dealing with health problems which sometimes get on top of you. But, don't give up please. I don't do as much as I would like due to health and other problems. I just do a bit of work on the layout when I can. It helps me to get through as I'm sure it will you.

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Hi all,
        A VERY BIG thanks for your kind thoughts and advice, well, i think this shows a commitment, that is, i have ordered a Morley Vortex N controller twin type, and, two Kato 11-103 chassis to get under some models in the very near time:), also, sent and received some card models from Smart models and Scalescenes, which the latter, alas, have gotten my order downloaded wrong:cry::twisted:.
        I sent for a download of  Warehouse part A and also Workshop part C, but, after it had been accepted and dealt with via Paypal, seems it gave me two of the Warehouse part A which seeing as you can print off as many as you need, it is quite strange for anyone to order a model twice, so, i am hoping my e mail to ask and explain will get me the correct model downloaded to me AKA, Warehouse part C, unless the person who runs the site Scalescenes happens to be a member of our forum:???::roll:;-), and could be pointed to my problem and the sites own problems:shock::), still, their you have it, models to make so as to see how much space one thing or another will take up, well, thats the plan, o, and i am going back into 3dsmax 2013 and start to design some card models to see where what will look good where;-):lol::lol:, any building plans gratefully received, 4mm 1/76 scale of cause;-)............

        Many grateful thanks to every one and i will keep you all very updated as i go, boring and otherwise picture the lot,:lol::lol:, so my very best regards and respects to one and all..............
                                                                           Tom......................:);-):cool:

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Hi Tom.
Sorry to hear you are feeling down at the mo, and hope you soon start to recover.
Re Scalescenes ,I think John Wiffen is a member of this forum .  I have found him to be gent and willing in my case anyway to put right any mistakes
I think you will find him sympathetic to your dilemma.    If you need his e-mail address  PM me with your e-mail.
Chin up .
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Hi Reg,
         Have sent him an e mail and so will allow him to respond if not, will take you up on your nice offer my friend.........

                                                     My regards..................................Tom..........:)

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Just checked Tom.  John is a member of the forum ,you will find him listed under Scalescenes his e_mail address can be found in the members list.:thumbs  He has his customers ordering data on file ,and will be able to see what has happened in your case.
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Hi all,
           This is just to show that i AM going to try and keep going, and, as such, have turned to my trusty 3dsmax 2013 for some play time;-):lol::lol:, here you see the beginnings of a loco for the popular Kato 11-103 chassis in the guise of a tram style body, covers a lot of sins chassis whys :shock:;-):roll:.
           The chassis in question will be either made from card or plastic card stock, but, am not to sure which, also, i have been playing around a standard type 3rd and guard coach and this i think could be laminated as follows, inner laminate of clear plastic with, card overlays printed off as per the colours and marking of said coach; the clear plastic inner would double up for strength and, for glazing duties:).
            I hope you all like the model as such, its standard yes, but, fits into the mind set for NG style locos, about 2" long, so, thats it for now, going to Warley Bus Museum today with three mates, helping out selling and doing some nostalgic bus traveling as well, hope the weather is nice but who cares, its going to be great as usual, i hope:shock::???::lol::lol:..

             All the very best and kindest regards to every one.............................Tom......:);-):cool:
PS, much more to do, stack and dome etc etc etc will be purchased in in brass or the like just so you all get a better idea......:)

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Hi Tom,

Glad you are back on track.looking forward to following your progress.

Cheers

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Cheers Tom,
           BTW, any thoughts on best wheel sets/bogies for coaches, as, my model of a coach 3rd and brake is going along fine but want a good running chassis for it; this model will be if it works out OK, a base for 1st and all brake and dinner, mmmmm, well, i hope so, have made 009 models before many years ago scratch built that is, but its the hands, still, as they say, a little and often :???::shock::lol::lol:;-).....

                                                               All the very best my dear friend.......Tom....:);-):cool:.

PS......Better get to bed, early start later on this morning:shock::shock::shock::shock::lol::roll:.........................................................................

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:hmm

I don't have any scratch build experience. In fact even kit builds for that matter. What you read of me on this forum ( and that may take a bit of digesting :mutley ) is what I've done so unfortunately I'm probably not the best person to advise on wheel sets etc.

However, I do know that there are others that have covered various builds elsewhere on the forum and have covered the subject very well and speaking with authority.
Have a look about as they will be there. If I can find them myself , I'll come back and tell you where to look. I will be replacing wheel sets myself at some point ( not part of a scratch build though ) as some of the back to backs on my stock leave a bit to be desired.
I envy ( in a polite way ) you guys who can build your own stock etc. it must feel so rewarding to see the completed item.

So even if it's taking you a bit longer due to dexterity issues with the old fingers or / and eyesight......... All the more reason to keep doing it albeit at a slower pace. There is no race here my friend.

I'll see if I can locate some of the threads I've mentioned. Brossards threads may be a good place to start from memory. If anyone else can lead Tom directly to a thread, chip in.

Cheers

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Hi ALL,
       Well, heres a little coach i have been working on, the smaller details like had grabs etc etc, will be made from brass as such:), glazing will be laminated within the two sides, an inner and an outer, which, will give strength to the model, any way, hope you like it so far;-):)..

                                                              My very best regards.....Tom...:);-):cool:......
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Very nice Tom. Cheerful, bright colours. Looking forward to seeing how you put these together.

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Hi all,
     Thanks Marty, have a little more to do still tho`, really this is also a very quick update of play regarding my layout; had a point over locking spring and blades do the nasty and come apart:shock::sad:, still, after some very careful work and some tentative soldering at certain points, its now back in one piece:), i am thinking that due to not being to hot anymore with regards to clipping point motors under point thus causing this mess up:???::shock:, i will as suggested, place motors on bases and position them constructively, at the side of the layout and use scenery as needed and sympathetically to hide said point motors and bases;-):lol:.
      When this section of the layout is laid as such, i will post some picture to show what is what regarding the general state of play to that point:), their in after will report as i get to the next stage and complete it, and so on:).

       My very best regards to all and thanks for viewing my ramblings :lol::lol::lol:, also to close, i am thinking of building Rothbury Stn and using it for my NG layout at on or other station site, and also, some of the great Col Herbert Stephens, a hero of mine;-), so bye for now..

                                                         Best wishes to all....................Tom......:);-):cool:

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Find enclosed the final model as such:roll::???::), but, will have to make/ purchase door grabs etc etc and all so get a chassis and couplings, been looking at Parkside Dundas, (great site and people) for suitable items and found a lot of contenders:lol:.

I hope you all like this sample model, Marty, seeing as it is, do you still like the BRIGHT colours:lol::lol::lol::shock:, not sure myself;-):???:....

                                              All the very best to everyone my dear friends.........Tom.....:);-):cool:..........
PS.........I hope it makes easy understanding of the parts, you need two of most items for the outside and ALSO, the inside, remainder left for spares etc etc etc.............................Tom.....:)

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I think the colours are grand Tom, very cheerful and will be aesthetically pleasing on a train running through green fields and hills. Complementary colours you see, Green and Red.
Have you allowed a little extra width on your carriage roof for the curvature? Maybe a couple of mm extra for overlap that can be trimmed off afterwards? 
Just a thought. 
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Good evening all:),
           VERY quick update, just finished the main track laying:doublethumb,   points laid for the main through station, need to work out what points needed for the two end stations plus, a short rather than little:roll:, through station; both through stations will have a run through line for non stopping and good, may put a little good stop in their as well regarding the smaller station:hmm; i will post some picture to date after i have cleaned up the base board surfaces some what:roll:;-)............

            O yes, nearly forgot, my Morley twin controller has been dispatched and should receive it in the next 2/3 days time all being well that is................

                                                                       Very best regards to all...................Tom..............:);-):cool:..

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Evening or is it morning:???::shock::lol:,
                   Still, just to let all know that, my new Morley controller has duly arrived, and is great, also, with winter getting EVER closer:sad::shock::), have just invested in a garage heater of around 3000watts, thermostated, and its rather BIG:shock::shock:, it will be set at a nice heat setting this winter and, all being OK, left on so as to control the overall temperature therein, we hope!:roll:;-).
                   Am awaiting still my two Kato chassis, 11-103s, but, should arrive very soon now, BUT, we have had to put some items from the garden in the garage and, i think it may require the services of another skip, or the like, its an old shed plus item that were stored in it that are taking the room up, still, never mind.

                   Well, thats about it for the moment other than my mate gave me 10 point motors for nothing, he did not need them so to help me out he said i could have them, very nice in deed:):):);-).

                    OK, thats me for now and i am off to bed, chat really soon my friends.

                                                           My very best regards to one and all......Tom......:);-):cool:

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Hi to ALL:),
             WELL, just had to post and my two 11-103 chassis have arrived from Japan:Happy; soon i will start to source some bodies for them, and, i also see that the site i used has some nice 0-4-0 small loco chassis as well, things are looking rather nice for now at any rate, onwards and upwards as they say;-):)...........

                                                       Very best regards to all............................Tom...:);-):cool:

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Hi all,
      Its just 01-46 in the morning:shock::roll:;-), and about finished today with number 2 skip:shock:, yes, yet another skip load from the garage and an old shed which is one of two we are demolishing and skipping, but, after looking at the 2 inch square internal timbers, i had to salvage them for more railway board model work, :):lol:, so, a lot of the material has been, will be, put to a better use;-):thumbs.

       I have just about 50% of the way into my own station model based on that from Col Stephens on the K&ECR, down the South, altering some aspects for my own systems use:), so, when its completed as such, will post some pictures of the model, its based as i say on the Bodian station proper, will not have an interior as, and is IMHO, a waste at this scale due to the need to get right down and near to see anything of worth, but if it was 7 mm scale, then we have a different view point, as such:hmm:lol:.

       OK, to close for now, i will be looking at the CWRailways offering of their tank loco which is based around the Kato 11-103 chassis, but for a second one, i like Tebee's models; Tom has quite a nice selection, one being a 009 side tank tram engine but not to sure what either will look like in 3D plastics, but, am getting a glass fibre pen for surface cleaning and buffing up as i seem to have read one needs for a smooth finish, its the 2 mm size for the size of the models..

       Right, bed for me and more sorting out and shopping in town latter today i guess:hmm, till later chaps................

                                                 Very best regards to all...................................Tom.....:);-):cool:

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:sad::cry: I really do not believe it:twisted:, NOT only has my camera just gone BANG:shock:, as such, BUT, i now find that my Bluetooth connections on both laptop and main PC, are, now totally killed off by win 10 update that has managed to SCREW UP my said Bluetooth software and am totally unable to find any usable or half respectable advice on the internet to put this right:twisted::twisted::sad:.

With the above statement of sadness given:roll:, i`ll try ASAP, to send up some pictures, as to how long it will take i do not know, and i thought win 10 was really getting some place, boy am i so very wrong:shock::roll::lol:..............

                                        Best regards to all...........................Tom..........:);-):cool:

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QUICK:shock:, while its still shooting:lol::lol:,








OK, Hope you like them, sorry for the awful shots, think only one is nice as such the rest well:???::shock:;-):lol:; hope the camera keeps going, amazing what a good screw driver and pig ignorance can achieve:roll::lol:, well that my story and i'm sticking with it ;-):lol:; it has no name yet, neither does any of the station areas to date as, i have not yet finished them so feel its rather premature to do so.
                                     OK, enjoy best regards till later...................Tom.........:);-):cool:
PS...........Just to say that down pipes and other items STILL to be applied to the station building..........:);-)

  

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UPDATE,..........Should have my latest batch of points from EHatton for the next section which leads into the second terminus and associated engine shed, and, i will have to get an "N" gauge T/T for obvious reasons:roll::lol::lol:; motors and bases are ready so, i think it will be a placement exercise as such, and i have my sights on a Silverline drill press on EBay at £59, p&p free,  full retail is £99.99, must get this passed by "She who must be OBEYED" aka, the WIFE!:???::shock::lol::lol::lol::lol:, till later gang;-).

                                My very best regards to every one.....................Tom.........:);-):cool:
PS... You will be glad to hear that the camera is still at this moment, working, how long for :???:, mmmmmmmmm, hoping mates;-)......

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Hi All,
         Just before i go bye bye's :roll::lol:, just finished the basic structure for the larger of two small adjacent buildings that are based on those at Bodian stn so, are quite correct as such, a smaller one will follow soon after this is completed, much to do:);-), hope you like the model even tho its just a 3D max model so far..............thanks people.

                                                 Best regards to all..........................Tom......:);-):cool:


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Hi all,
       Well, i have finally got my chassis from  Shapeways and they do look very nice indeed. and, i have now placed into these my two 11-103 motor units and they fit rather neatly indeed, just need to get the two Gem fittings kit to use with the bodies i am going to make; have just started my engine shed that based around the prototype at Rolvenden station on the K&ESR, and, is coming along nicely.
       II have now to complete the last two station areas which will add up to around 12 in total, i hope, as such but we will see as i get to the areas one at a time, may be areas which can have industries but, not at the expense of space and making the model bunged up as such...............


                                                       My very best regards......................Tom....:);-):cool:

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Dear ALL,
             I have come to an irrevocable truth, my model building is bad really cxxp, the building i have tried to make look like a child's attempt, and being of years and having to many years under my belt, this is not acceptable at all, also, my track laying is very pathetic to say the least and i am being very kind to me; i don,t like the flat board effect and also its just around the metric of 1/8th thick, the only thickness i could afford, and, not able to do much about it now as it is built in such a way as to make any tampering out of the question.

             I am a person who is on disablement money plus a PIP, which, with all our bills is hard to justify any modelling if it is going wrong, as this is, so, i must call time on purchasing any more items till i van see what is going to happen or can be done, but, seeing a lot of the layouts here on our forum and by people older than myself and the fantastic offerings they deliver, i am very surely put off trying to do anything as i cannot see me getting to their level and for me, that is a value i will not compromise at any cost, where i go from here i do not know.

             My over all health is surprisingly far better than i had hoped, but for one thing and that is the chronic pain and nerve troubles i am now getting in both hands which is about my level of luck, so, thats it for the now and i shall have to think what if any my options are, money wise, they are bad next to worse than ever, so, the decision may of being made for me and with how i am feeling now a days and at the moment, i couldn't care less, so thats all for now..........

                                                       My very best regards and much thanks to all.........Tom..


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Hi Tom,

A couple of things. First, your attempts are neither child like or crap. You are being far to harsh on yourself. I can understand how you feel as my model making skills are in their infancy and to be honest I am petrified of what my first attempt of actually building structures might yield.

However .......... You ...... On the other hand have made a start and have kindly posted up your attempts which for an inexperienced modeller are fine. I personally am a little more fortunate ( at the moment ) as far as funds go but believe me, it's not money that provides success in this game, it's perseverance and that can be demonstrated many times over on this very forum as some people really can make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. It's been proven.

You started your thread with gusto and have made a brilliant job of the baseboards etc. your structures are fine and I suspect what will happen will be the same as myself. You build structures which may not match the best on here, but are a start. Eventually as you get better and as your layout starts to fill out, you'll start to replace your first attempts with improved versions. It's all down to practice and experience my friend.

Keep your eye open on my threads as shortly you are about to see me going through exactly the same.

Sounds like your health is getting you down a bit as well, something that a lot of your fellow modellers on here can sympathise with ( including myself ). Don't let it drag you down. Take heart in what you are doing and soldier on. Let's see that track going down and some power to the steels. If you need any advice .......... ASK. I'm sure that I speak for everyone in saying that it would he freely available.

C'mon ......... Keep it going

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Make no mistake about it, Tom.  This stuff isn't easy.

I keep some of my earliest attempts around, just to inspire me when I hit the inevitable hurdle - to see just how far I have come.

Your photos show that you have made a pretty good fist of it so far.

Don't be afraid to bin something and make it again.  I've completely rebuilt Olpharts Crossing three times from the ground up.

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Watch daytime television?  I don't think so.  :lol:

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Hi Tom

I just wanted to echo what Toto and Max have already said.

The pictures of buildings you've posted look fine to me and you can always revisit or replace any model at a later date, when time and funds permit.

We are after all just creating a representation of a railway and surrounding scenery, not an exact scaled down replica.

Take your time and if things take longer to do because of your hand problems, so what.

I built my baseboards a couple of years ago when my back wasn't too bad. I know if I was just starting now, it would be far more difficult and would take me a lot longer.

There is no timescale for this hobby, it's not a race and if funds are tight just stick a couple of pounds in a tin or something each month.

It's what I do and it's surprising how quickly it mounts up.


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Update,
           All photobucket pictures removed, all buildings destroyed and, all track work removed and stored away; baseboards are not very good at all, and, i really do not have any more money, plus, with what this government are planning,  i fear for my and my wife's future regarding how we will survive financially speaking, that's all.....................Thanks..

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Sorry to hear that Tom.

Very best wishes to you and your wife and I hope things improve for you both.


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Hi to all,:hi
             Just had an idea of putting some 25 mm polystyrene slab on to the top of the boards to do two things, 1, give an all over depth and , 2, make the whole of the layout surface level and consistent, as, i have scene this done on some layout went looking at youtube and other layout pictures, any comments?:???::);  if this idea works, at least i can get to sort out the surface and overall structure of said layout ready for a new and more positive approach and progression, we hope so any way:lol::lol::lol:....

                                     Many grateful thanks and best regards to everyone..........Tom...:);-):cool:

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Hello:),
     Well, i have just received the styrene slabs and, have started to lay up the base board surfaces and, will paint the surface a brown colour and will then, start with the upper levels etc etc etc, so, will keep you dated with progress..............

                                                       My very best regards...........Tom.........:);-):cool:


PS..   It would seem( happily ), that the large bill for the end of November is covered as my clever wife has been laying some monies on the side so as to lessen the end amount needed:lol::).
                                                         Thank goodness for wives:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:...........Tom;-)

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Hi all,
     Well, that's the board tops laid up with the, styrene at 1 " thick:), thing is, because it was the only quantity at the best price namely, 12 sheets;-), i have now 8 sheets left:shock::???::), BUT!, i still have the upper level that is to be elevated at around 12" or better, to start and complete, so, some still to use, the left over sheets, i think that, i shall insulate the upper beams to the roof:), thus, giving better heat holding;-), but even that will not use up all the sheets being 8ft x 4ft:???::):).
    After this is completed,i shall paint the whole area with a brown colour then onwards to getting and laying the cork underlay which i think i shall go for 7/8th wide by 1/8 thick being that the track is 009/9mm thus not needing any wider or thicker, pinning the track when glueing down to this bed and removing said pins whence the glue is set and go from their:):).

    I won't post pictures of this boring episode as, this is one aspect that has been done to death and really just to let all who are interested in the progress know as to where i have got to at the moment..............

                               All the best and best regards to every one...........................Tom........:);-):cool:

                          

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Hi Tom,

Done to death or not, it's always interesting seeing someone else's layout come together so I'm sure there would be a lot of interest.

Sounds like you are getting somewhere though.

Well done

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OK all, just looked at the base boards and have added an extra 1" to the surface, next, i must get the ply board out and cut some lengths off at around 4" in depth so as to protect the edges, and, will fill the gaps with an ejected type filler compound, after this stage, its a case of deciding how and at what point of the layout boards i start to ascend to the next level at say around 4" to 6" higher, the final point a terminus station at around 14" to 15" to complete.
The levels going up will be of styrene and at level sections where there is any action shall we say, i will use some 1/8th" ply to accommodate any and all buildings and any other items needing extra,s; all track as i think i stated, will be laid upon 1/8" cork bed, cuts for points and servos as needed, all the latter painted in a rather darkish:???: brown, my usual choice of standard colour:roll::lol:.

Well, that's it  for the moment, still got 8 sheets left:shock::roll::lol::lol:, i think i may be doing some insulating at this rate to use the leftovers up  :mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley...........

                                                  Best regards to all..............Tom..........:);-):cool:.. 

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Hi Tom,

Mind a couple of pictures. It's all getting a bit exciting now. Dying to see the results.

Keep up the good work.:thumbs

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 Don't forget you can break up some of the styrene tyo make hills etc so giving yourself even more 'landscaping' potential

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:hiHI Matt,
       Very true, tell you all some thing else you get:???:, A RUDDY GREAT SNOW STORM:mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley, but, as opposed to the OTHER type of blue or pink type, this is healthy as such:thumbs:thumbs, the latter blue and pink is noted as being carcinogenic :shock::shock::shock:, with regards to the very fine dust and inhaling it use a mask, but can be a skin irritant as well, so, a little snow storm is far far better:):):); Tom, will post some pictures as soon as i get into some more building tomorrow, need to cut some pelmet boarders for the fronts as well to protect and finish off the look ;-):)...........#
O, BTW, if any one see's the wife out tonight, tell her to fly home ASAP, and keep the zapping to a minimum :mutley:mutley:mutley:shock::shock:; belive she is using a NIMBUS 2000 this year:Red Card:Red Card:It's a no no:It's a no no:mutley:mutley:mutley......

                                         Best regards and happy HALLOWEEN.....Tom......:doublethumb;-):cool::lol: 

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Hi, bad news:cry::cry:. my camera has just stopped totally:shock::shock::shock:; still kept on turning off, BUT, them the focus lens motor just went up it and now, it's now completely DEAD:cry::cry::cry:, so, till i can afford a new one, no more picture i am sorry to say, of cause, the up coming Warley Expo, IF!!!!, i get their that is, but, its not the end of the world, now is it???:lol::lol::lol::roll::roll:;-)

                                                        OK, all the best and regards............Tom...:);-):cool:.

PS..........All tops of boards now finished fitting styrene 2" and  4" by what ever length required completed.............:):):)

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Hi All,
      Re, bad news:sad::sad:, great news :Happy:Happy:Happy, am getting a new camera, from Argos, and have some money to take off the total price, one of those vouture things:doublethumb, so, pictures very soon now and, i can take pictures and video at Warley:lol::lol::lol:...

                                                        Very best regards and :cheers............Tom......:);-):cool:... 

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Good news indeed! See you at Warley :):)

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Hi Gang:),
         Just a quick one before i go to sleep, the filler has now been completed AOK, next, i'll post some picture of the boards at this stage and then, next, i paint them in what is called wilko's nutmeg spice:shock:;-), nice and brown like :roll:;-):), after this i shall post some pictures of the boards completed to that stage.
          Sorry for the lack of pictures to date, what with the camera going faulty and getting a new one on my Argos card, PLUS!!, i really did want to complete some work before i started posting pictures, thus, the delay in such, but as i say, i am now more or less back on schedule, boards and the like, will then have to tackle the track layout as, i really want it to go up two more levels as to give more depth and as such, give a big layout appearance, or, at least i hope it will; not that hot on putting down plans for said track plan, nor, am i liking following a track plan from a book etc etc, so, this next stage might take a while to get going, i know what i really want, but, just can not see it in my mind at the moment:???::???::???:.

          OK my dear friends, that's it for tonight, time for bed and i'll post ASAP, so for now,

                                         My very best regards to all..................................Tom...............:);-):cool:.. 

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Hi All,
      Well, not much been happening from last post, had idea of doing some pictures and starting to work out best way to get a more active track system sorted out and ways of scratch building my own model bodies etc etc etc, BUT!, O what a problem was to unfold:shock::shock::shock::shock:.
       Our beloved Staffy bitch of just 7 years old contracted Pyometra, which, for the unknowing amongst you, in the canine world is a 100% killer, due to not having your bitch spayed:roll::roll::cry:, so, it went to peritonitis, and she went under a very very swift surgery to remove all the poison and pus and the breeding equipment their in shall we say, the end result!!????,

                                                                :doublethumb:doublethumb:doublethumb:Happy:Happy:Happy:Happy:Happy

 SHE CAME THROUGH A>O>K:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs, but, at a cost of near £600.00:thud:mutley:mutley, so, there will be a period of quietness whilst, i get some fund saved up or what ever, main thing is, our baby is still with us and more or less back to her Staffy ways;-);-), and now naturally, she is going to get away with about anything; we were lucky and should of had her spayed at age 6mths to 1 year old, OUR FAULT ENTIRELY, so, if you happen to have a bitch as your newest best friend, PLEASE PLEASE, get her spade IMMEDIATELY.

         Hoping thing may go better for all our family that is, (wife me and the animals ), i am looking at the Da Vinci XYZprinting 3D printer, re flashed to Repetitor firmware, as, i have been producing 3D graphic of models for some many years now and to save as an .stl format and printing accordingly is  straightforward, thus producing as much as i can vis my own modelling/ designs etc etc etc, but, with the funds now at a very low ebb it will be awhile till things come around, or perhaps the Xmas spirit may smile on my good wife and myselfquest:quest:, who knows, still, that's the state of play as of this date....

                                           My very best regards and wishes to all...........Tom.........:);-):cool:


                 

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Hi all,
      Well, i have just completed a test of building my first NG 009 mm coach based on one of the Welsh systems and, it is looking promising so far;-):), but, have to do the other side of said coach to give a positive outcome over all:???::roll:..

      The model is made of an amalgamate of two card faces with, a 2mm internal clear plastic section giving both the glazing and, added strength and stability, i hope anyways:lol::roll:;-).

      Ends will be a centre core of something  in the same vain as the glazing but, does not have to be clear, normal plasticard would suit; all faces are produced via 3D max 2013 and formed using Pepakura 64bit to export as a 3D model, (unwrapped!!), hope this makes scenes:shock::roll::).....

       I will post some picture when and if the project comes to a good conclusion, and to this end, will be getting some Peco L&B coach bogies to run the bodies on, and as yet, still have two Kato chassis and two chassis blocks from the 3D model print site, (name escapes me:shock::roll::roll:, mmmmmmm, Shapeways???), so, still need to sort out a couple of nice body shapes etc etc to suit these, much to ponder......

                                                          My best regards to all........................Tom....:);-):cool: 


PS...........Frankie the Staffy gets her stitches out today, so, all is now AOK,;-):):):):lol::lol::mrgreen:

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Pleased to hear your Staffy is on the mend, here is a piccy of mine, 'Bos'n' in 1987. He was 50% hooligan crossed with 50% cuddle, but sadly developed the doggy equivalent of Crohn's disease and we had to take the painful decision too. I never see one without thinking of him dribbling as he sat in frontof the oven when a Sunday roast was cooking!



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Doug, sorry about your Bos'n problem and passing, we were both very upset and like spiked persons till we got our Frankie back, now, all in the past, but, now, she is really up for any food etc etc etc, and the vets can not understand why after peritonitis which takes on average two weeks for the dog to get fully over, Frankie is like it NEVER EVER happened:mutley:mutley:mutley, the true Staffy nature coming out and then some:mutley..


On the subject of my coach building/scratch building  exercise, well it's gone down the drain yet again:thud:thud:hmm:hmm, so, not sure what to do next, and so, still have no motive power or stock let alone any track down just the base boards and that is how it is, mmmmmmmmmmmmmexclam:exclam:exclam:quest:quest:quest:quest:.

                                           My very best regards to all...............................Tom......:);-):cool:

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YES I`M STILL HERE!!!:hi,
                      OK, well, i have not been lazy from last i chatted with you lot, o no, i have raised one of the base boards around 8" high, thus, giving a better and more rounded appeal, as i think of myself:roll::).
                      Alas, my health problem seem to be getting in the way of things, have to see a guy at the Hospital for one of my eye`s because, we suffer with Glaucoma, dam nuisance, but, from what i am told, my pressure and what i can see is fine, nothing detached or other wise, just i am thinking what what has been said, more to see if how and what is just plain down to being me; on a brighter note, my diabetes has dropped so much that, i am now classed as PRE and not as i was type 2, PLUS, they want to use me as a positive case study as to how and what can be achieved, with out medication and will power, ain`t been nice giving up food types and the like, but, health before all else, 60s and now less that 16 st in weight:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:, ( switch to smug mode ):mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley:doublethumb .
                      I have been toying with getting a 3D printer but, at the moment with the money situation, think, i shall wait a little longer, still, will be doing a lot of buildings designing and printing off so, scratch building is still on the table, just hope the hospital Dr has no other views on that, but, i have a spare in my right socket:mutley:mutley:mutley.
                       OK, that`s all for the moment, have started back on track laying, so, will start very soon on recording some pictures for you lot to have a look at, so till then,

                            My very best regards and respects to all my great friend  here.......Tom........:);-):cool:


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Cheer Max, just been doing a small country garage/petrol stn for the lay out, just wondering what the high and length and width should be; think i shall eye ball a couple of locations of possibilities, then, what space it will need for pumps and the like and scale a size from there onwards; the joy of scratch build as opposed to off the shelf so to speak.:roll::):), very much i think as making your own point work, alas, that is one thing i won`t touch, i know my limitations:lol::lol::lol:!!!!!!.

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Quick update, just getting a drill and drill press stand for modelling, not the large type usually sold:roll:;-), so, this in theory will help getting more accurate holes and the like made in what ever material i am using, hand and the like needing all the help they can get :lol::lol::lol:, still, never mind.
Been looking at the Bron Hebog site on how they make their coaches and, i really do feel that this is a process i can do and achieve some good results, we shall see very soon, but, the to Kato 1-103 chassis i have, i still am at a cross roads as to what to do, scratch build or, just plain purchase a couple of shape way bodies and just bang on from that point, mmmmmmmmm, need some more thought on this..

That`s it for the moment, the raised part is going very well in construction phase and as soon as all is ready, will send pictures to show my progress, slow i know but, i am in no hurry............

                                             Very best regards and wishes to all.......................Tom..........:);-):cool:

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Good on ya Tom.

Fantastic news about the diabetes and weight loss, you are justified in being proud of that effort alone. Many folks don't have the bottle to get that far.

I've got a drill press stand for my Dremel tool and it's brilliant! Can't recommend a drill press enough for getting precision holes.

Just a question... A lot of your old photos aren't showing up in your older posts? Did I miss something or have you change photo host providers? It's a shame not to have the photos there with your story.

No stress though... You just keep working on your railway... Oh....yes....and your health. :thumbs

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Tom, I have that chassis on one side, Google cwrailways.com as there are some ideas there for it.

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Hi Tom,

Great to see you posting again and very well done with your triumph over diabetes and your new sleek image! Good luck with your railway progress and I'm looking forward to further news as and when it happens.

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Hi ALL,
       VERY quick update. have got most of the tools i need and looking at a few others; need to re do the ink on the Epson office, also, have just about completed the raised section of the layout that`s to say, the raising section and the top board; have re-started to do some tests on 3D card coaches and stock, so far the art work is looking good, this test model based on the L&B from plans found on the web!!, plus, have done some test unfolds and print off`s as to see what it looks like, and, i am happy so far with the results;-).
       Well, that`s it for the moment, happy belated Easter :chicken any one with a dental practice should be quids in in a few months or so:mutley:mutley:mutley, so, ok, its bed time for me now, chat soon mates...........................

                                                           Very best regards and wishes to all..........Tom..........:);-):cool:

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Having just read all the way through the thread, congratulations on getting somewhere. I know I have problems with the levels of my layout so you're not the only one, I'm blaming the genuinely faulty bubble level I was using. We seem to have a lot in common, doggies with Pyometra (she survived as well) and Diabetes, and eyesight, Although if I follow family tradition of illnesses like I normally do, it'll be cataracts in about 15 years time.
Good luck with the railway I hope to see some pictures soon!

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Hi Q,
     :lol::lol::lol::lol:, just reading your reply made me think i must of written it, we must be twin spirits;-), any ways, thanks mate, pictures to follow, but, here is a taste of the ongoing project i started some time last year and, if people cast their minds back, you would recall me showing and detailing my idea`s on this type of model production, well, here is where i have got to as of now:); not to sure if i should go with matt paper of a mid weight or, photo type paper which is gloss covered, as, it will ALL need covering with a preserver type lacquer, so, still thinking on this part, any ways, just finished some painting of the elevated section and its raise parts so, when dry, will photograph the out come and post as per my promise..........



                                                   Very best regards to all for now.......Tom........:);-):cool:  

PS... This effort was produced using 3Dmax2013 with Corel PSP and Pepakura 64bit software`s, o yes, and many long nights, or is that very early mornings:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::roll::shock:;-).........TFMF.


PPS...........Sorry the colour is a bit uuuuuuuuucccccckkk, has to be the pick up from Photo Bucket, it is supposed to be a shade of BR Crimson and a cream variant, nice mid style planking for the inner partitions and floor boards......that is it!!!!!!!!!......... 

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Hi ALL,:lol::)
Very quick up date to the last submission, have just cut out and started to layer up the sides successfully, so now, i shall start on the ends and inner parts:shock::lol:;-); i am thinking of using Peco L&B coach bogies???, BTW, any one know of what or how, i can thin down UHU/BOSTIK etc etc type glue as, i need a glue that is spreadable and can stick card to plasticard, clear type, re, the laminating of the main sides and ends..............

                                                  My very best regards to all..................Tom....:);-):cool:

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OK, Hi ALL,:):),           Have a look at the model NG coach so far, it is going good, but, i have to use UHU glue as the only medium that will stick plastic to card:???::roll:, never mind, i will have to clean the windows outside as best i can, it really does not show to bad, 2 ft rule applied :lol::lol::lol:;-).

           Got to do the other side and then onwards to the ends and roof etc etc etc, so have a ganders at the pics and i`ll be in touch, o yes, just to say that, the painting of the main boards is now complete and when totally dry will shoot some pictures for you all, will re post some of the old start that i have found on a card i had forgotten that they were on so enjoy and chat soon...............

                                                    My very bes regards and wishes to all.........Tom..........:);-):cool:


PS...Have to place all door and other fitting on as i go so more to do before finally complete.......


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The older pictures to give a better feel of what has happened..........












That`s all, i hope this is OK??..........................Cheers Tom.......:);-):cool:

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Hi Tom,

Looks as if you're about to be having plenty of fun (besides those lovely coach builds) and good to see a decent track bed height! Your garage and baseboards are looking so very tidy. I suppose that may change as the fun starts :)

Good luck,

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Hi Bill,
       Ha ha ha, yes, all our model rooms start very neat and tidy and the promise and best intentions go very smartly out of the window whence we start modelling proper:roll::roll::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::???:;-); some bad news sorry to say, and that`s that the model coaches i had got in mind and to a quite advanced state re, previous pictures have not worked out, this is due entirely to my own short comings due to dexterity problems and sight, modelling does have the inevitability of finding these problem out dam it, :sad::sad::sad::roll::roll::???::lol::lol::lol:, still, got further than the last attempts any way so can`t moan to much;-):lol::lol::):):).
       I will get some pictures of the layout to date in the next day or two and i`ll post them up, it is looking rather nice to my eye`s as, i can see plenty of cameo areas i had other wise not thought of being on just one level so, plenty of scope, so tyhat`s it for the moment chaps.....

                  Very best regards and thanks to all and best wishes,   Tom.................:);-):cool:.. 

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Hi Tom, your coach sides look very impressive, in the past I have used canopy glue to fix paper and card to plasticard, it is a type of pva and the aeromodellers use it to fix the canopy,s to model aircraft, hence the name, it dries clear and doesn,t string all I did was roughen the plastic surface to give the glue a key.

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Hi all,
        Quick question,:???:, do i really need to cut out the windows and lights in the coaches being that, at 9mm NG, and applying the 2ft rule, you just plain can not see any of the internal details at all, and come to think of it, all so none in the Pecos expensive L&B coaches, i mean to say, in 7mm or larger, then yes it would be of an advantage but, in 9mm NG, you just plain can`t see any of the details so whats the point, your thoughts please:roll::???:;-)...............

                                       Many thanks and very best regards to all,                Tom...........:);-):cool:.


PS.............The above will decide on the way the final coaches are to be produced!!!!!!!!!!!.............cheers all.:) 

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Tom,you are right about the detailing,I stopped doing it yrs ago in 00,ok if you sit em on a shelf to look at not on a layout,running is more important nothing kills the fun as much as bad running and stock uncoupling ,
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Hi Tom,

Owen's right, lots of detail means you don't play trains, they're too fragile.

Card to plastic? CAA will work, but you have very little time to get it positioned right. If you give the card a coat of varnish followed by a pass with #400 sandpaper that gives a key for the CAA. If you use plastic compatible CAA that will stop the bloom. If you key the plastic with #400 paper followed by a wipe with IPA then PVA-based glues will work.

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Hello all,
            Just a very quick update, and that is, my printer of some 6+ years has just died on me:sad:, so, till i can get to afford a new model i will be just designing and not printing in regards to stock, a great shame but, their you are; i will wait till i can get a straight forwards A3+ printer of reasonable price, i REALLY do HATE:twisted::twisted:, these duplex types, and they are from knowledge, NOT, the type persons like my self who design and print there own card models off, should be contemplating, ok for the office but, NO, not in the modelling world, so, i shall wait, plus, May 5th is the date for me to see the eye consultant and, i am not liking that one bit, so, much hangs in the balance so to speak. 
            Anyway, that`s it from me for the moment, thanks for the adhesive advice, much appreciated indeed, and, hope to put these ideas to the test ASAP......

                                       My very best regards to all..............................Tom............:);-):cool:

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Are well, i have just decided upon the Epson Stylus Photo 1500W A3+ printer, around £165.00 inc delivery; comes with 6 colours, 4 stnd and 2 light colours, USB and, Wi-Fi windows 10 ready:):), so, i`ll be in touch  with what progress i make on this printer, i always buy Epson, company is a bit tight as we all know, but, their printers seem to go on forever and a day, and little or no problems, and this from them will be my 4th or 5th printer, mmmmmmmmmm, you think if they get to hear about my promo on their behalf i could get a cracking discount:shock::???::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:, back soon mates................:thumbs

                                                  My very best regards to all.........................Tom.......:);-):cool:.

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WELL, I have just installed my new Epson Stylus Photo 1500W A3+ printer and, its great:Happy, now, if the projects i have ready perform in a similar manner, i shall be very very happy indeed:roll::lol::), ok then, back to what we all like to do, GET MODELLING!!!:doublethumb, mmmmmmmmmm:hmm, but first i think i shall make sure the little bundle is performing all ok and then, we shall proceed, so, till later then chaps.........................

                                                            Very best regards and wishes to all....................Tom....:);-):cool:.. 

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Hi all,
           Very sad news :cry::cry::cry:, it would look like my modelling days may be numbered as, my attempts to heat the garage with, as i thought, a good electric small shop heater has turned out to be anything but:shock::shock:, as, it sent my electric bill estimate from £77 a mth to over £169+ a mth, this is not what i imagined and as i do not have any other area to model any layout of even a small area safely and without the worry of the mess incurred as one gets, also, can not even think of costing the work to get the garage sealed to the weather so as to lower all heating costs to sensible levels, its is certainly the point that, i can not no longer continue with model railways as things are, or, seem to be heading as per bills and other outlays, so, there you are; rather ironically, the coaches i have made, one an all third and one an third and brake, have, come out far far better than i imagined they would or dared to hope as such, full glazing etc etc etc, just needing the bogies,(L&B type from Peco) and other add ons such as handles etc and they would be fantastic if i say so myself:):):);-), BUT, they will remain as of now, just models to stand and collect dust on my bool case......

            Well chaps, that`s the lot from me, will continue to follow all the threads here in and comment as i have/if, anything to add of value if relevant, but, that is as far as it goes from now on, so cheers for now and all my best wishes and bye for now........

                                                                               Tom......................:)

PS.........Just to say that the heater has gone to the Heart foundation shop and, i have some chassis and a Morley twin contro;er, all, never used and as new as the day they arrived, also 7 bard new points and track, what a xxxxx waste of time and money, and NO, i won`t try selling on EBay or the like, as, i would definitely without question, be asking what i paid for them as they are totaly new and im not just giving them away, the wife would kill me, and quite rightly so, that`s all, cheers and cheerio...... 

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That has come as a shocker Tom! I have an oil filled electric radiator in my shed (16ftX10ft), it is on 24-7 during the winter on the frost setting, I pay £70 per month, pre pay, and that is for everything, I have a small fan heater that I put on when I go in to play/ahem model, and that gets the shed toasty in no time. Apart from a bit at the end where I can,t get the shed is insulated and lined out with hardboard, it stays reasonably damp free ( I have had some leakage from the roof ) the felt has cracked, but I have patched up for the short term but its getting a new covering when I have saved up.  

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Tom ,I bought a calor gas heater for my 20ft by 10ft shed, dirt cheap to run and calor even deliver the gas, did have oil filled rads but could not afford them anymore leccy costs shot up,
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YOU  HOOOOOO, guess who?,
         Yes it is me, i am hopefully back after a very terrible and troubled year, so, am looking forwards to the back of it reasons health and other related issues that sent me of my head and had 3 police forces looking for me!!!!!! still, brain is now back in gear, and, i am happy to say that, i am going to get of my xxx and have another go, as, i have a brand new heater, THIS one should be a lot friendlier re costings on running, still going to be 009, plus, have just purchased 3dsmax for doing my own buildings, may be able to offer some to the crowd her and about ha ha ha, but, we must get the track re laid and go from their; it will this time around be as straight forwards as i can do without giving a lot of interest away, but, that`s it for now so i will be back from time to time on updates and pictures of the progress this time around, a very happy Christmas and new year wishes to all my friends........

                                            With the greatest regards and respects to all,   Tom.....

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Good to hear from you Tom, glad you have solved the heater problem.


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Hi to all,
       Belated Christmas greetings, and on time new year greetings  :lol: :lol:, just to let all know that, i have started to get my track sorted out on the tops of the base boards, alas, just before the big day arrived, both my PC and, laptop went South so to speak :shock: :cry:; am about to get the new HDD for said PC, but, my laptop is no more :cry:, it fused well beyond repair, so, am going to just use my main PC and a new tablet, but, not to much tablet as, i do find at my age the size is just a little small for my eyes, and, i have still got to get use to how it operates, and,  i have two bodies for my locos to get and 4 coaches next month, so, for my computer wants will be out weighed by my modelling needs for the moment; can`t do both, monies not able to stretch that far, never mind tho`, so that`s the S.P.  for the forth coming year and first few months, still, that lot should keep me occupied and out of trouble :roll: ;-) :lol: :lol:.

      To close now, i wish every member, a happy and healthy forthcoming new year and don`t get TOO DRUNK :roll: :roll: :lol: people, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL :lol: :lol: :)

                                Very best regards and respects........Tom................ 

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Greetings to all,
                  Well, a new year and seems the modelling gods do smile upon me :) :), well, at least for the present!! :lol:, i have just received a new pre-installed OS 8.1 pro now up dated to 10, by far the best from Microsoft re O/S, HDD from Zoostorm the makers of my PC F.O.C., even tho` its out of the warranty by 18 months or so, not to bad hey!!! ;-) :), and, have now also installed i new heater in the shape of an oil filled thermostatic controlled  type 2 kw; will soon be getting the last 15 points for the planed layout, basic left and right hander`s and a couple of "Y" types for interest!!! :), some bog standard "N" gauge metre track say two lengths and that my dear friends, will see me ready for the very BIG push, so, as of now, that is all the news from Rugby and myself.

                                        Till later, my very best regards to all.............................Tom.... :) ;-) :cool:

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Hi Tom and a Happy New Year to you,

Really good news regarding your PC and reassuring to know that some companies will still do the right thing, regardless of warranty :)

It sounds as if your railway is about to become reality once more and your more economic heater will keep you and your railway snug during these colder months.

All possible good luck to you and I look forward to hearing more good news as it happens.

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Well,  I have just started to lay track!, OK, :) but can I find my cut off tools? :???: nope!, looked every where and can I find them???, but at least I did find some spare part, cutting discos etc,so, alls well :),  but,with the time from last modelling to now, it very easy to forget where you place or rather miss placed as in my case :lol: :lol: :lol:, so, we at last up and laying track down so, also purchased the last point work needed, so, its all go!!!, more to follow as I get all stations and yards completed, less, wiring up as such so till later friends........my regards and best to all.             tom        

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Hi ALL,
           Just a quick query,  i have quite a lot of point motors, the Peco type, but! have noticed that some of them, in fact a lot it seems :shock:, have no mid tags, the tags that you bend to use on OO points but, leave up to use for N and 009 points, just wondered, who makes these as i was under the impression all point motors where a la Peco :???: :shock: :roll:, so no way around connecting these to a 009 point other than the side use of a point plate, mmmmmmmmm, very strange indeed!!!!! :???: ;-) :)..............

                                                           Best regards to all....................Tom...... :) ;-) :cool:.

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:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:,     After thinking all was well, i have just attempted to lay some track onto the styrene  top i had put in place to give some depth and, also, afford a way of making some nice fetures such as streams etc etc, by cutting into and thus creating the needed look of same and also roads that required them to go lower in places, this my friend, was a bad and ill conceived idea that has now, resulted in, the accumulated mes that is the styrene sheets or many parts there of, being ripped from the base boards, it is also i am thinking why i found it difficult to get the rails to join correctly, so, i have a major mess to clean up, all this before i yet again have to find a track plan that is worth while doing, and not as i see far to many times on the net and mags, just line going to no where and some feeble attempt at concealing same, i do not wish to make these awful and horrid mistake myself :???: :???: :???: :sad: :sad:..........


                                              Regards to all...............................Tom........ :) ;-) :cool:

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Tom,
Do not despair, just as you can't sew a button onto a a fart, you'll be unlikely to get a satisfactory joint-up and level track laying on sculpted soft polystyrene unless you cover your chopped-out route with at least a layer of stout card, ensuring no card joints coincide with a rail joint.

Have another try, I'm sure it will improve your chances of getting a smooth track.

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Doug,   Yes mate, i have already scraped the surface and am all ready starting to clean house and board tops ready to start over, i think gullies and streams etc etc will have to go by the by, ply board is not the thing to dig into and i am committed to this medium as it is covering all the layout board tops, hey ho!!!!!!......, o yes, and just ordered from e bay a set of needle files at around £4-00, so we will progress, no hurry..........

                              My very best regards to all................Tom........ :) ;-) :cool:

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Hi Tom,

If you go for the high-density closed cell foam that is used for wall insulation (blue, pink, green, depends on who makes it), it is a lot tougher than the white stuff, doesn't easily compress, and takes the weight track and stock quite happily. 2" or 4" thick (25 or 50mm) gives you plenty of depth for hills, vales, rivers, etc. You should use an adhesive specifically for the product. If you use CA that also needs to be for styrene foam.

When performing hackery avoid the bread knife or saw. Use a decent disposable blade (the foam will quickly blunt it) and a hot wire. It pays to have a 2mm or so thick layer of cork as the track-bed. If you use plaster rolls the surface needs keying with #400 paper (outside, unless you want dust everywhere).

The picture below shows a module from the BRMCM layout in Montreal, HD foam construction, with a canal cut into the foam baseboard. All of the hills and embankments on this layout are HD foam on top of the HD foam baseboards.

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Hi Nigel,
          Did look into that type of insulation board, was way to expensive for me over here in Rugby Wark`s UK, looked mainly on E Bay, still, i have now started work on track laying and all is looking not to bad, BUT, direct on to the ply board bases, so, any canals rivers and the like etc etc will have to be made a la John Ahearn his layout which is now stored and shown in the Oxford museum which name escapes me for now, still, that is the state of play as of today so thanks mate for the info.................

                                                      Very best regards.....................Tom......... :) ;-) :cool:

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Hi Guys,
            Well, i have finally finished the track laying and have 5 points and about 5 + yards of track left over :), but must say that the urge to use up said track and points is very very strong indeed :twisted: ;-), but alas, i really do not want to over do and spoil the scenic affects by having to much track and points :???: ;-), but then, when is to much really TOO much :???: :lol: :lol:, so, all is now ready for the next stage and, i will send up some pictures of the state of the layout as of now, but must tide up first :roll: ;-) :lol:, so till then............


                                       My very best and regards to all my friend......Tom...... :) ;-) :cool:

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Hi Tom,

Onward and upward then. Looks like hills but few vales.

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Hi Nigel,
        Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, may be, but i might take to doing the same as John Ahern shows a way as, cutting through the ply and affixing support as required such, under pinning the area removed and scenic the area accordingly and, i really works, did some thing like this many decades ago myself, must get thinking on this one,  mmmmmmmmm, may be, just may be :roll: ;-) :lol:...........

                                   Very best regards......Tom...... :) ;-) :cool:

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Hi Guys :),
         A question; i have just finished the guards luggage passenger/ second/first, here are the questions, 

1. Do i really need to make provision for glazing in short, put windows in the coaches?

2. What would be the best martial to affix the coach faces onto; the faces sides and ends having the atr work on them?

       For help in these questions, i have considered plasticard or thin wood or card of an appropriate thickness, as, if i have to cut out window openings, the thinner the medium the art work is fixed to the better, and, overall neatness a etc etc of the openings :???: :).

       OK, well, that`s it for now, will put up a picture of the coach sides and as promised, the layout as it is, remembering that it will look rough as most do till the basic scenic s are applied.

                                     My very best to all and regards.............Tom.......... :) ;-) :cool:

PS     The coaches as is measure out as:-   L= 144.3mm  H= 34.3mm  W= 24 mm  hope that is of use......

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Hi Guys,
  
           Here is the Mk 4 version of the L&B style coaching stock, this being a gauge/ luggage/ second, type, others will follow if this goes full development as, the Mk 3 did come to actual bodies, but, i did not like the over all appearance so said models so scraped them a little while back; do not expect them to be like the Peco models per say, but, i think i can better the 3D printed models in looks and over all appearance as, their is a hell of a lot of prep work on 3D models just to get to the priming stage and, what a cost :shock: :shock: :???:, it is the micro size that limits the finish of said 3D models, this way, at least, i have a colourful and detailed looking base to start putting together, i hope, a fair looking model/s, hope the enclosed is of some interest mates..............


                                               Very best regards and wishes to all............Tom......... :) ;-) :cool:
PS     The bottom two of the sections are for inner covering, if glazing is going to be done and, also, extra strength and support, printed on card stock of 480 g, and that for a printer is quite thick, and Epsoms can deal with thicker card stock......thankfully... :lol: :lol: ;-)

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Hi to all,
           Well, just went into my local Wilkinson`s  to get some telephone multi core cable, only to find, they have discontinued that type of cable :shock: :shock: :sad:, i have now out to find, an outlet that sells by the drum, the multi core cable i require, 5 core would be ok, but, the amount that are on Ebay is most confusing, as,  it is rather off so to speak when you can`t get to see what you are purchasing :???: :???: :???:, so that is my next thing to sort out, as well as micro switches, may as well get both at the same time i guess..

                                        Best regards to all, Tom......... :) ;-) :cool:


PS..  coaches are coming along really well, should just need Peco L&B coach bogies to finish , well, i hope so :lol: :lol:... 

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mckinnell wrote: Hi to all,

           Well, just went into my local Wilkinson`s  to get some telephone multi core cable, only to find, they have discontinued that type of cable :shock: :shock: :sad:, i have now out to find, an outlet that sells by the drum, the multi core cable i require, 5 core would be ok, but, the amount that are on Ebay is most confusing, as,  it is rather off so to speak when you can`t get to see what you are purchasing :???: :???: :???:, so that is my next thing to sort out, as well as micro switches, may as well get both at the same time i guess..



                                        Best regards to all, Tom......... :) ;-) :cool:





PS..  coaches are coming along really well, should just need Peco L&B coach bogies to finish , well, i hope so :lol: :lol:... 

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mckinnell wrote: Hi Nigel,
          Did look into that type of insulation board, was way to expensive for me over here in Rugby Wark`s UK, looked mainly on E Bay, still, i have now started work on track laying and all is looking not to bad, BUT, direct on to the ply board bases, so, any canals rivers and the like etc etc will have to be made a la John Ahearn his layout which is now stored and shown in the Oxford museum which name escapes me for now, still, that is the state of play as of today so thanks mate for the info.................

                                                      Very best regards.....................Tom......... :) ;-) :cool:
Polyurethane insulation sheet that Nigel uses - 25mm thick, 4' x 2' is under a fiver at Jewsons. I wouldn't really say that was too expensive Tom. I've used it as the basis for three layouts so far (Detailed elsewhere here on YMR)

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