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Peter Towns, a member here on YMR is in the process of restoring Login Station, one of the old stations on the old Cardi-bach -  GWR Whitland to Cardigan line that closed in 1962. As part of the restoration, a couple of us are building a 4mm layout depicting Login station and environs as they were in their heyday.

I elected to tackle the station house. This is the actual house as it is now:



Peter had taken all the relevant measurements so I drew up plans on the computer in Photoshop, printed them out and stuck them onto 2mm greyboard. Cut them out with the trusty Stanley...



Covered the pieces where needed in slate/stone paper (CG textures Photoshopped) and stuck them together with UHU:



Windows were drawn in P'shop, printed onto sticky-backed photo paper, cut out and stuck onto clear plastic (top of a Tesco cake box).
Internals came next, which was a labour of love, as they will never be seen in detail again - but I know they are there. First is the living room:



then the Station Masters office and the end room being the ticket office. Two rooms have flickering fires (LEDs from plastic tea-lights) and all three have ceiling lights. All LEDs with resistors and powered from a 6 volt plug-in transformer (50p from a charity shop):



This is the result:



Finally Scalescenes roof tiles were added, together with barge boards, chimneys and pots, and the whole lot protected with a coat of matt varnish.



Rear view, with the bottom 15mm 'shopped' out:



Any queries or criticisms, I'm happy to reply to.

ATB
Shaun.

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Cracking build Shaun, looks great!
Well done

Cheers
Ron

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It's a lovely house, Shaun.  Straight out of "Escape to the Country."  :lol:

You've made a beautiful job of it.


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Thanks chaps!
And an elephant... my first!

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Very nice, well done.

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Nice one Shaun, I know what you mean about modelling interiors when only you know whats there, its the same as modelling in detail the underside of coaches and wagons, no-one will see it all but it is a very satisfying thing to do, well done!:thumbs.
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A lovely build and I like the way way that you designed it from the outset. Great result, especially the interior.

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I can't believe that was over a year ago!

Around that time we started on the Login layout itself - the Station on a 7 x 2 board, with two 4 x 2 boards, one at either end as fiddle yards/potential extensions.

This was the start of the main board, last year when I had lots of 'shed' room:



For the next few months it went on hold, as we concentrated on building the Teifi Gorge layout. and various summer exhibitions.
Winter and the inclement weather got in the way, and then we decided to move, so the Login layout had a temporary home in a store room at Pats.

Finally last month we managed to move the board to the new house at Llechryd, and I started doing a bit more:





That was taken a week ago. Since then things have been slowly progressing:








Only small cameo shots, as there is an awful lot of empty board across to the right!

More later,
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Lovely work as always Shaun.

What did you use for the grass across the board?

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'Fly-swatter' and 2mm static grasses Marty - glad you like it!

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Wow... Very interesting to see it applied "broad acre" like that. It looks great.

Must have taken a while?

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Not too long Marty. I think it took up most of an afternoon - I know I did it more or less all in one go, so that it would blend in.

I've done a bit more to the layout in the last day or two, the picture below shows progress (Sorry about the Teifi Gorge bit in the background - trying to juggle two balls at once...)




Login station is now stuck in place, but needs the ground to be built up around the sides and back. It's wired for lights, so I took a quick night-time shot:




The middle room is the Station Masters office, and is furnished with a settle, filing cabinet, desk and fire - I tried to get a picture, but even set on macro, and with the lense touching the window, this is the best I could get:




The fire flickers quite realistically, done by using the LED out of one of those imitation night-lights (8 for a pound. From... Poundland!)

Now up to date with Login.

Shaun.

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Hi Shaun,

Very nice work, especially the meadows. 

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Thanks Nigel. Trouble is they have got to be divided up and given thick hedges with lots of trees, plus a few miles of fencing (lots of 0.7mm holes to be drilled into matchsticks...)
Oh the things we get pleasure from!

Shaun.

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That's beautiful work Shaun.
I constantly marvel at the talent that is in our hobby.

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Nice work Shaun.  Going back to your first post in this thread, you mentioned giving the building a coat of matt varnish. Do you remember which make of varnish and how it was applied?  For instance, was it sprayed or applied with a brush?

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Hi Terry.
Winsor & Newton matt varnish from their Galeria range. A 75ml bottle costs around a fiver. (Well, it should do - but I liberated mine from my wife's art cupboard)
It dries in minutes, and brushes can be cleaned in water.
Prior to that I used Wilko's matt varnish in a tin. Just as good, but I had to buy it instead of 'acquiring' it...

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Hi again, Shaun, this scheme could cut down the matchstick drilling by 30%if you have a small pillar drill but you do need to keep 'up and downing' the bit to clear it...




Love the firelight effect etc! Where are the gates from, please?

Doug

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Excellent, Shaun.  :thumbs

Love the fireplace.

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Chubber wrote:
Hi again, Shaun, this scheme could cut down the matchstick drilling by 30%if you have a small pillar drill but you do need to keep 'up and downing' the bit to clear it...




Love the firelight effect etc! Where are the gates from, please?

Doug

I think I'll stick to doing them one by one Doug - I don't think my pillar drill is delicate enough!

The gates are home made - Drawn to scale on paper, double sided cellotape on top, and then made up from 2mm and 1.5mm square plastic strip stuck with MEK. Bit of gauze from a tea-strainer and red roundels cut from coloured card. You can then carefully peel off the backing paper.

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Wow!

Double sided sticky tape....brilliant.

Thanks Shaun

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It helps if you reduce the tackiness a bit by rubbing it - sometimes it can be too agressive, and everything comes apart as you try to seperate the work from the backing. Trial and error...

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Noted, thanks.

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I've got loads of catching up to do Shaun but I have to say, grass won't grow on your street !!!  Moving house and doing all that in one year - wow !!  It takes me nearly that long to find my tools ..................:oops:

It's looking really good. :thumbs

Is the sub-base polystyrene foam ?

love the stream, the little grey Fergis and the guys doing the fencing. :thumbs:thumbs

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Thanks Peter - good to have you back on the scene, I hope the recovery is going OK.

Yes, the sub base is urethane foam, 25mm Kingspan type stuff - I'm using in this shot to build up the land behind the station:



Next step will be to cover it with Modroc, and then a skim of Pollyfilla followed by paint and grass...
(thats tomorrow)

ATB

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That Kingspan type foam is great stuff for producing scenery hills etc if you don't plan to have anything under it like track.
Very easy to carve. Cover with plaster bandage or similar with a coat of coloured pollyfilla on top.

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Check out a couple of my other topics Tony - I'm a great believer in polyurethane insulation! This is the third layout to be built on a Kingspan or similar base. (I've yet to use it for insulation though...)


The urethane was duly covered with Modroc, and then the famous 'Gloop' first create by Marty was applied:





And seen from the front:




Behind the platform fencing will be the station house garden, and there was also a ty bach in the garden, still there in the late sixties.
The slight rise in the middle is artists license to give a bit more interest, as the is insufficient room for the farm detail at the top. This old photograph give some idea of what we are trying to achieve (or as close as...):




I should be able to get spring cottage in on the left, and I have made Dilys's keepers cottage to go at the front, though part of it may be hidden.

Shaun.

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Is the foam "squishy" Shaun? and does it matter if it is?
There is a boat upholsterer a couple of doors away from where I'm working at the moment and oh the waste offcuts available!!! Just haven't found anything not "squishy" yet.
I do like the way you are developing Login station based on the photo, it's looking great.
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Not squishy at all Marty. Carves without mess, and takes non-solvent adhesives very well, though they take a while to dry.
Login sits on a base of 25mm, Kilgerran on 50mm, and a lot of both Login and Teifi Gorge scenics are 25mm off-cuts. Much better than regular polystyrene (tiles, appliance packageing etc).
Check out building sites for off-cuts, though it's not that expensive to buy from a builders merchant.
HTH
Shaun.

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Marty wrote: Is the foam "squishy" Shaun? and does it matter if it is?
There is a boat upholsterer a couple of doors away from where I'm working at the moment and oh the waste offcuts available!!! Just haven't found anything not "squishy" yet.
I do like the way you are developing Login station based on the photo, it's looking great.
cheers

Hi Marty.

The type of foam is the type used on buildings. Its not the same type as used on upholstery.
Its often about 2" thick & may have silver foil, paper or plasterboard attached to it. You just peal off whatever is attached to it & use the foam. Over here it normally comes in 8' x 4' sheets & is readily available from builders merchants or Diy stores.

Tony

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Mmmm, can't say I've seen it here. Thanks lads, I'll have a poke around.

Ok, there are several suppliers in Perth... Now to find someone that uses it and throws out the off cuts. Cool room manufacturers maybe.

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Try this Marty

http://www.truelocal.com.au/business/kingspan/malaga

Sorry! jumped the gun there - you have already found suppliers...

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It's urethane foam Marty - very similar to styrofoam (but without the "poly" :lol:).  The core look a bit like a Crunchie bar (if you've ever seen one of those ...........:roll::roll::roll:

I suspect the stuff they use for upholstery is a kind of rubber foam - a bit like artificial sponge ............:hmm

That would probably do for a former to carry "J Cloth" type material soaked in your gloop - can't remember what "J cloth" is called down under - "Chux" maybe ????)

I know John Dew uses paper towel soaked in plaster over card formers - maybe you could substitute the plaster with your gloop and the card formers with chunks of your foam .............:roll::roll::roll:

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Petermac wrote:
It's urethane foam Marty - very similar to styrofoam (but without the "poly" :lol:).  The core look a bit like a Crunchie bar (if you've ever seen one of those ...........:roll::roll::roll:

well...we have something called a crunchie with a honeycomb centre, as long as it's the same thing I think I know what you mean Petermac

I suspect the stuff they use for upholstery is a kind of rubber foam - a bit like artificial sponge ............:hmm

That would probably do for a former to carry "J Cloth" type material soaked in your gloop - can't remember what "J cloth" is called down under - "Chux" maybe ????)

yes... Chux, well done! I too suspect that the rubber upholstery sponge, at least the firmer variety will do the same job but I'd like to find the other stuff first if I can. I feel it would be easier to sculpt.

I know John Dew uses paper towel soaked in plaster over card formers - maybe you could substitute the plaster with your gloop and the card formers with chunks of your foam .............:roll::roll::roll:

certainly lots of options available and since I've been banned from using polystyrene I'll have to experiment. Many thanks for your thoughts Petermac


Thank you too Shaun. That was one I hadn't got.

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Hope you find some Marty - it's great stuff to work with - possibilities are endless.

Moving on, the coating of 'Martys Gloop' has dried, been given splashes of acrylic colour, and then static grass applied.
A farm track leads from the road along the hillside to the far fields. The Station Master, or more probably his wife has planted the garden, and the crops seem to be doing very well.

Login Station at the moment:



The pictures are a little on the dark side as I had to compensate with exposure to get the shutter speed up a bit.

Here is the garden:





Everything is a bit untidy, as I am still in the proccess of construction, so you have to make allowances for the odd strings of glue and bits of scatter!

More as and when.

Shaun.

By the by, I run a blog, and for the last week I have been getting over 20 hits a day from Russia... any idea why? My normal hit rate is around 5 hits a day, from UK/US. (It's called Chufferduffers)

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Looking really good Shaun :thumbs


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By the by, I run a blog, and for the last week I have been getting over 20 hits a day from Russia... any idea why? My normal hit rate is around 5 hits a day, from UK/US. (It's called Chufferduffers)

(Probably think Chuffersduffers is a 'front' for MI6 :mutley)

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Looking brilliant Shaun - you certainly don't waste much time and also have an "eye" for nature. :thumbs

Regarding the Ruskies, "chuff" and "duff" have other meaning too you know ...............:hmm

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Spring Cottage has finally made an appearance on the landscape.
Looking at the image below, Spring cottage is the building centre left, with another cottage attached to it. In this picture it appears to have a traditional West Wales roof, cement render over old slate. It has since been renovated, but I have chose to model it as close as I can to the photo



This is the model. It was originally going to be the keepers cottage, in the foreground of the picture above, but the layout configuration needs another version.



It is illuminated, and has a flickering fire, together with a staircase and a figure seated on a settee in front of the fire.
Camera constraints dont really show the detail, but I did m' best...





Login also took delivery from the GWR of a couple of their benches, duly placed on the platform and promptly occupied by one of the village worthies.






Bit of fettling required on the one under the station window!

ATB
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That looks absolutely brilliant Shaun, don't' think you could get a model to look any more like the original building :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs


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Thanks Ed, I really appreciate that!

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That looks really good, love the details

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Now, where were we?

Peters wife Dawn, wondered if the lady in red, who features in the Railway Roundup video about to cross in front of the train could be incorporated in the layout model, as her grandchildren were still in the area...

I tried my best in the short time I had.


Back to the scenic construct... I put up a temporary piece of ply as a backscene, which my Artistic Advisor noticed, and said you cant leave it like that, it ought to be painted - "I can do it now if you want"

Never look a gift horse in the mouth:




Back board loosely in place:





The blank area at the far right hand corner was crying out to be filled, so I made a model of 'Fron Felin' the farm that appears in the colour photo a few posts back. I made it in 4mm scale, painted it, put lights in it, and placed it in position.

'No good', 'Too Large', 'Out of proportion', 'Get rid of it...'
So doing as I was told (as you learn to do  with by experience) I made another, but this time in 3mm scale. Result met with guarded approval.




Here is a more cruel close-up:




Thats about it for the time being.

ATB
Shaun.




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Nice work all round, Shaun.  :thumbs

Lucky to have your girl there.  Mine is a botanical/insect artist.  The scale is all wrong.  :lol:

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This layout is stunning Shaun - and that "lady in red" is magnificent.  Her grandchildren must be thrilled. :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

p.s. Does your "artistic advisor" feel like taking a holiday in south west France ......................? :roll::roll::roll::roll:

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The size of your layout Peter, she would want a month there...

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Remember watching one of Pete Waterman's videos a while back and he was saying one of the biggest problems is getting the perspective right.

So a large tree at the front of the layout wouldn't look the same size if it was at the back, but a train running past it would also have to look smaller or the tree would look too small compared to the train.

Bit of a balancing act, but I think you've got the balancing act about right there Shaun :thumbs


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Thanks Ed.
Really it's my wife who pointed things out to me, like brushing the merest hint of pink on things to reflect the sky, and she continually moans on about layouts always being 'green and brown'... "Nature is not just green and brown!!! Open your eyes man!"
Yes dear... Mind you, she is right (usually)

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The scenic board part of Login Station is now as good as finished, and Peter is coming tomorrow to pick it up, as he has had a request to show it at the weekend as part of an S4C (Welsh telly) article.

So here are the final few pics:





















Thanks to everybody who has followed this rather protracted build!

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Wow, looks great Shaun. It has been a treat to read through this thread.
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Thanks Ben! Sorry,I didn't realize you were a member (I should have checked. Put it down to old age...)

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