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 Posted: Tue Jul 26th, 2016 06:18 pm
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Wow!

Double sided sticky tape....brilliant.

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It helps if you reduce the tackiness a bit by rubbing it - sometimes it can be too agressive, and everything comes apart as you try to seperate the work from the backing. Trial and error...

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I've got loads of catching up to do Shaun but I have to say, grass won't grow on your street !!!  Moving house and doing all that in one year - wow !!  It takes me nearly that long to find my tools ..................:oops:

It's looking really good. :thumbs

Is the sub-base polystyrene foam ?

love the stream, the little grey Fergis and the guys doing the fencing. :thumbs:thumbs



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Thanks Peter - good to have you back on the scene, I hope the recovery is going OK.

Yes, the sub base is urethane foam, 25mm Kingspan type stuff - I'm using in this shot to build up the land behind the station:



Next step will be to cover it with Modroc, and then a skim of Pollyfilla followed by paint and grass...
(thats tomorrow)

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That Kingspan type foam is great stuff for producing scenery hills etc if you don't plan to have anything under it like track.
Very easy to carve. Cover with plaster bandage or similar with a coat of coloured pollyfilla on top.



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Check out a couple of my other topics Tony - I'm a great believer in polyurethane insulation! This is the third layout to be built on a Kingspan or similar base. (I've yet to use it for insulation though...)


The urethane was duly covered with Modroc, and then the famous 'Gloop' first create by Marty was applied:





And seen from the front:




Behind the platform fencing will be the station house garden, and there was also a ty bach in the garden, still there in the late sixties.
The slight rise in the middle is artists license to give a bit more interest, as the is insufficient room for the farm detail at the top. This old photograph give some idea of what we are trying to achieve (or as close as...):




I should be able to get spring cottage in on the left, and I have made Dilys's keepers cottage to go at the front, though part of it may be hidden.

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Is the foam "squishy" Shaun? and does it matter if it is?
There is a boat upholsterer a couple of doors away from where I'm working at the moment and oh the waste offcuts available!!! Just haven't found anything not "squishy" yet.
I do like the way you are developing Login station based on the photo, it's looking great.
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Not squishy at all Marty. Carves without mess, and takes non-solvent adhesives very well, though they take a while to dry.
Login sits on a base of 25mm, Kilgerran on 50mm, and a lot of both Login and Teifi Gorge scenics are 25mm off-cuts. Much better than regular polystyrene (tiles, appliance packageing etc).
Check out building sites for off-cuts, though it's not that expensive to buy from a builders merchant.
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Marty wrote: Is the foam "squishy" Shaun? and does it matter if it is?
There is a boat upholsterer a couple of doors away from where I'm working at the moment and oh the waste offcuts available!!! Just haven't found anything not "squishy" yet.
I do like the way you are developing Login station based on the photo, it's looking great.
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Hi Marty.

The type of foam is the type used on buildings. Its not the same type as used on upholstery.
Its often about 2" thick & may have silver foil, paper or plasterboard attached to it. You just peal off whatever is attached to it & use the foam. Over here it normally comes in 8' x 4' sheets & is readily available from builders merchants or Diy stores.

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Mmmm, can't say I've seen it here. Thanks lads, I'll have a poke around.

Ok, there are several suppliers in Perth... Now to find someone that uses it and throws out the off cuts. Cool room manufacturers maybe.



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Try this Marty

http://www.truelocal.com.au/business/kingspan/malaga

Sorry! jumped the gun there - you have already found suppliers...

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It's urethane foam Marty - very similar to styrofoam (but without the "poly" :lol:).  The core look a bit like a Crunchie bar (if you've ever seen one of those ...........:roll::roll::roll:

I suspect the stuff they use for upholstery is a kind of rubber foam - a bit like artificial sponge ............:hmm

That would probably do for a former to carry "J Cloth" type material soaked in your gloop - can't remember what "J cloth" is called down under - "Chux" maybe ????)

I know John Dew uses paper towel soaked in plaster over card formers - maybe you could substitute the plaster with your gloop and the card formers with chunks of your foam .............:roll::roll::roll:



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Petermac wrote:
It's urethane foam Marty - very similar to styrofoam (but without the "poly" :lol:).  The core look a bit like a Crunchie bar (if you've ever seen one of those ...........:roll::roll::roll:

well...we have something called a crunchie with a honeycomb centre, as long as it's the same thing I think I know what you mean Petermac

I suspect the stuff they use for upholstery is a kind of rubber foam - a bit like artificial sponge ............:hmm

That would probably do for a former to carry "J Cloth" type material soaked in your gloop - can't remember what "J cloth" is called down under - "Chux" maybe ????)

yes... Chux, well done! I too suspect that the rubber upholstery sponge, at least the firmer variety will do the same job but I'd like to find the other stuff first if I can. I feel it would be easier to sculpt.

I know John Dew uses paper towel soaked in plaster over card formers - maybe you could substitute the plaster with your gloop and the card formers with chunks of your foam .............:roll::roll::roll:

certainly lots of options available and since I've been banned from using polystyrene I'll have to experiment. Many thanks for your thoughts Petermac


Thank you too Shaun. That was one I hadn't got.

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Hope you find some Marty - it's great stuff to work with - possibilities are endless.

Moving on, the coating of 'Martys Gloop' has dried, been given splashes of acrylic colour, and then static grass applied.
A farm track leads from the road along the hillside to the far fields. The Station Master, or more probably his wife has planted the garden, and the crops seem to be doing very well.

Login Station at the moment:



The pictures are a little on the dark side as I had to compensate with exposure to get the shutter speed up a bit.

Here is the garden:





Everything is a bit untidy, as I am still in the proccess of construction, so you have to make allowances for the odd strings of glue and bits of scatter!

More as and when.

Shaun.

By the by, I run a blog, and for the last week I have been getting over 20 hits a day from Russia... any idea why? My normal hit rate is around 5 hits a day, from UK/US. (It's called Chufferduffers)

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Looking really good Shaun :thumbs


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By the by, I run a blog, and for the last week I have been getting over 20 hits a day from Russia... any idea why? My normal hit rate is around 5 hits a day, from UK/US. (It's called Chufferduffers)

(Probably think Chuffersduffers is a 'front' for MI6 :mutley)



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Looking brilliant Shaun - you certainly don't waste much time and also have an "eye" for nature. :thumbs

Regarding the Ruskies, "chuff" and "duff" have other meaning too you know ...............:hmm



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Spring Cottage has finally made an appearance on the landscape.
Looking at the image below, Spring cottage is the building centre left, with another cottage attached to it. In this picture it appears to have a traditional West Wales roof, cement render over old slate. It has since been renovated, but I have chose to model it as close as I can to the photo



This is the model. It was originally going to be the keepers cottage, in the foreground of the picture above, but the layout configuration needs another version.



It is illuminated, and has a flickering fire, together with a staircase and a figure seated on a settee in front of the fire.
Camera constraints dont really show the detail, but I did m' best...





Login also took delivery from the GWR of a couple of their benches, duly placed on the platform and promptly occupied by one of the village worthies.






Bit of fettling required on the one under the station window!

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That looks absolutely brilliant Shaun, don't' think you could get a model to look any more like the original building :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs


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Thanks Ed, I really appreciate that!

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