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 Posted: Mon Jan 28th, 2008 03:55 pm
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Picked this bit of info up today which I hope is correct. If not someone will tell me and I will delete it. Locomotives fitted with sound can increase the sound by adjusting CV63. The maximum sound level is 64.



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 Posted: Mon Jan 28th, 2008 04:14 pm
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Your post is correct Bob it directly relates to the latest Bachmann Class 37 sound loco.
Bachmann decided to relalease it with the sound level turned down to 50
its adjustable between 0-64 on cv 63
The reason for this earlier realeases specifically the class 20 sound version where felt by some to be to loud so thats is why they did it but they did not update the documentation as that states it is set to 64 which it is not.
The sound volume really does depend on each individuals situation if your layout was in your living room with the rest of the family i would imagine family complaints would soon arise.
But if you have a large layout with sound not affecting anyone else than yourself you can have higher voilume levels as i do.
I even fit extra speakers see my Sound 37 thread in the Bachmann section
cheers Brian.W

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I saw the news item from Bachmann regarding the class 37 sound levels. I am interested in the class 47. Do you happen to know if this too is set at around 50% of volume level?

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i can check the 47 as i have one but i believe that is set a 64 i have modified my 47 aswell another post in the bachmann section.
The 37 is noticeably quieter again depending on layout etc if the level is correct for you in my case much to quiet .
my mod gives it a much throater sound.
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Thanks Brian

I look forward to learning what the cv setting is for the 47.

At the moment I do not have the capability to adjust cv levels, having only an E-Z command controller. My class 20 is certainly far too loud - to the extent of being painful on the ears!

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That is the limitation of the entry dcc units they dont enable you to read or even write cv values perhaps your local model shop when you get back can do it for you or perhaps a friend nearby Bob.
Even the new dynamis cant read cvs but it can write to them
apparently the pro box for it will enable cv reading.

Bob i just checked and my 47 is set to cv value 50 to be honest i wouldnt want that much louder than it is i just assumed it was set at 64
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So it seems that we can't have a common cv setting for sound because there are too many other factors to take into account. From the chip itself to the individual locomotive and it's surroundings.



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To be fair Bob its probably a bit like the level of volume say your grandaugter would listen to her stereo and be happy with is probably vastly differant to what volume you would be happy with.

THe words heard in many a household TURN THAT BLOODY MUSIC DOWN

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I suppose that is the beauty of DCC. You can set up the loco to perform just how you want it - provided you have a controller that adjusts cv settings, unlike mine :(

Brian - thanks for the info. I guess i am going to have to go shopping for a new DCC controller when I get back :)

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Yes I notice a lot of things keep coming back to the controller. Hmm.



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Bob Dcc controllers and the same as most things you do tend to get what you pay for i have the Dynamis and my Lenz 100
Although for price the dynamis is good its not as solid perfoming piece of kit or function rich as the Lenz 100 and really i now only use the dynamis as aback up system because although when i first got the dynamis i gave it a good road test i found myself going back to the lenz more and more and i havent even switched on the dynamis for at least a month.
Thats why anybody considering dcc should not just jump at the cheapest thing do rersearch and see what suits you best.
Perhaps the fact that my first dcc system was a Lenz 100 has spoilt me a bit because if i had just had dynamis i probably would have thought that is brill but unfortunately for me i use the Lenz as my standard and the dynamis certainly aint no Lenz 100
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I'll bear all that in mind Brian, if and when.



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i should have included this in the last post really
Something when people are selecting a dcc system they tend to disregard
is the warranties with most of them it is only 1 year
With the Lenz 100 the warranty lasts up to 10 years which gives you an idea of thier confidence in the system plus gives you peace of mind.

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That's one heck of a warranty Brian. As you say it speaks wonders for their confidence in the quality of their kit.



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has anyone come across the hornby infra-red add on
walk about for the elite? i have heard about it but not
seen one yet. :? :lol: :lol: 8)

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Can you put this query in a separate topic Owen else people won't know it's here.



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More on DCC & sound.
As you know, I am a convert to DCC & recently my good mate obtained 3 of the Murphy Models Bachmann diesels , now decoded to run on his little NCE Powercab layout & they had lights. Well yeah , it now means, gosh , I have to light the world as well.

OK, one of my other mates (yes , I have a couple) recently got the new AD60 Garratt from Eureka Models.
A couple of things, this big loco runs thru my home made points & diamonds without derailing & it has very fine flanges so I must be doing something right.
Point 2 - changing the default number from #3 to #6028 - yeah, that did not work until I found out that the speaking part of the decoder has to be turned off so the new number will be accepted ( got that from a website here in OZ).
Point 3 - the sounds - arhhhh - to hear them - bleeding heck - now my mate with the diesels reckons, they will need to be sounded - they are ready for a speaker as they come & I will have to wear earmuffs so I cannot hear them or more money will be spent .
The start-up, etc of this loco is SUPERB, the only problem is trying to get the bell to work so I have e-mailed my NCE contact here in Oz about that.

Now for a previously died- in - the - wool analogue bloke;
DCC, lights & sounds are a foregone inevitable conclusion. ( & Neil, don't you dare say " I told you so :!: ")

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We have an Atlas EMD SD35 loco that is sound equipped and runs on DC [or DCC] The volume can be adjusted with a handheld magnet.
Sounds include horn, bell, brake squeal, doppler effect and various other things. Quite fascinating. I believe that when [if] I get DCC I'll be able to fine tune each sound to get more diesel throb, less whine from fans or turbo. Also DCC will give coupler impact sound.
The QSI sound chip is factory installed and to my knowledge can't be purchased separately which is a shame.
Interestingly, the sound varies with the manufacturer being modelled. My dad's Atlas GE sounds very different.

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Mike, re QSI - have a read of this site

http://www.qsisolutions.com/products/q-revolution.html

Things maybe on the improve.

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Thanks Ron. I'm glad you posted that.
I've had a quick look but will bookmark it and have a good read later.
Exciting times :lol: :lol:

Mike

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