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 Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2014 06:54 am
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I am now building the first extension to the large station building I described in an earlier thread

I am using the same Scalescene kit but without the Tower.

The initial construction is pretty much basic Scalescene. The walls are made of two layers of thick (2mm) card sandwiched together.

A printed template marked out with windows and doors is glued to the outer card layer

Once the windows and doors are cut out the detailed top layer is glued over the template 


This shot shows the front wall with a second print out of the top layer




You can see from the print out the centre section where the tower would be fixed. I cut this out before fixing it to the wall. The plan is to use the brick arch and then add a single brick window above

There is nothing in the various pages that quite matches both the space and the design so anything patched on would be very obvious






So I built a facade that will stand clear of the building.....the kit comes with quoins which are perfect for concealing corner joins.

I made a  wall (2x2mm) to match the space .......the arch fits quite well but, as you will see getting the single window to look ok was a bit trickier. The wall was built out with
2x2mm spacers to accommodate the quoins


Heres the reverse showing the spacers......brick paper has been wrapped around although most will be concealed by the quoins



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The frontage fixed in place.......the left hand side has a quoin loosely placed so you can see how the absence of printing/ design mismatch is almost all concealed.
 
On the right hand side I have painted out the unprinted section......again most of this will be concealed by the quoins.

All the white strips you can see will eventually be covered by printed plinths/cornices/ledges etc glued to medium (1mm) card.

This three dimensional finishing is very time consuming but does make the building look impressive

Hope this "in the trenches" stuff isnt too boring......next post putting the walls together



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The advantage of the scalescenes kits is that you can bash them into other things with a bit of thought and experimentation. Having others show us how they experimented and what they did is invaluable.
Watching the building come together is part of the magic too... so... not boring.... bring it on.

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It's looking very good already John. :thumbs

I'm a little confused (as per normal) by the fact that you seem to suggest laminating the two layers of 2mm card then cutting out the windows. :roll:  This would mean cutting through 4mm of card. :shock:  Or maybe I've misunderstood.  Do you cut the openings in each lamination before glueing them together. ?  Cutting arched openings through 2mm of card is tough enough without trying to cut 4mm.

As Marty said, with a bit of lateral thinking, Scalescenes offer lots of kit bashing potential although I'd guess there is a fair bit of wasted printing to get the bits you need.



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Thanks for the comments  Marty and Peter.

You are absolutely correct Peter .....my apologies....I worded it very badly. The apertures are, of course, cut out separately on each 2mm board before they are laminated together.:oops::oops:

There is not a lot of waste so far; just the second sheet of front wall top layer to get the facade window..........there may be more when I add the trim :???:

:cheers




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Great stuff John,Should make ane excellent sturdy building with that heavy card construction.
Good Luck,
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Thanks Derek......great to hear from you.....remember.....take it easy!



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Hi John

Looking good so far and looking forward to the next piccies.

Scalescene kits are great for bashing, and also fairly bullet proof once built. Yes there is a fair amount of waste, but I cut out the bits and add them to the parts bin, just like all the extras from other kits, these are just a lot thinner - unlike me :lol:.

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Hi John,

As Marty said, it's good to see how the kits are bashed into different models and the way you go about it. Always interesting and always something to learn. Besides I can learn from any mistakes you make, which I bet is ZERO ! ;-) Nice work so far. Keep it coming.

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Thanks for the comments guys......I am sorry for the delay in replying...... we had a series of rather traumatic canine emergencies.......but hopefully all is well for a while.

This shot shows the windows being attached to the rear of the  outer wall



For the main station I used Brassmasters but I didnt think it was worth the expense and effort. Secondly the additional thickness made it very difficult to laminate the outer and inner walls

The kit comes with paper overlays that are cut out and glued to clear plastic but I preferred to use windows cut from a sheet printed from the Scalescene builders pack........very handy file to have in your library


Having laminated the inner walls to the outer here they are laid out prior to assembly




The annexe will butt right against the side wall of the Main Station so I didnt bother cutting out the window for that side

Similarly it will back directly on to the support wall for the overall roof (shown below ) so I overlaid the card wall with brick paper and cut out a single matching arch






Here are the four walls again, this time showing the interior




There is no template for the interior walls you cut the windows out directly from printed layer after it has been glued to the card......some overcuts are inevitable.....but it doesnt matter. The interior is barely visible, So much so that I didnt bother doing a print out for the scratch built rear internal wall or adding fireplaces to the side walls

Note that the internal walls are in separate lower and upper sections and when laminating to the outer wall you leave just enough space to insert the 2 ply floor/ceiling

This is clearly spelled out in the instructions.....what is not made clear is the importance of ensuring there is an even overlap with the outer wall.

This narrow strip which you can see at the bottom of the shot above will be covered, once the roof base is on, with a decorative base. Its a 1/2" strip....so any error is very apparent......you can bury 1/8" in a 5" wall.........much harder with a 1/2" strip!

Second time round, based on prior experience, you can see I opted for a sagging floor in favour of a uniform parapet

Here is the floor inserted ........complete with sag!




Followed by the frontage






The next shot may also help anyone attempting this kit

Note the gap or notch between the two walls



First time round I spent forever working out what I  had done wrong to create this gap.........wrong .....its designed that way (actually rather cleverly)....... the parapet neatly slots in there........but I do wish I had been told!

Next step is to drop the roof base on to the ledge created by the inner walls

I cut the roof base back by 1/2" to eliminate the space allowed for the tower and to ensure the roof itself was centred on the building.........this was done early on and served as a benchmark for cutting back the sides and floor






You can see those annoying notches again......it also gives you an idea of how robust the structure is.

Finally how I hope it will end up on Granby:







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G`day John,

  This is one impressive building. I like what you`re doing here and I think once I`ve got past the basics on my own layout, I may venture into Scalescenes to get a more realistic appearance going.

  I have a few Metcalfes and Superquicks which may get Scalescenes make overs via their building papers etc. or rather, sell them on and get into Scalescenes instead.

  Well done :doublethumb

:cheers  Gormo



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Hello,

Some great modelling there, hope my attempts will be half as good. (One day)
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