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G`day Folks,

    I am working on a suggestion put forward by Matt in regard to pictures of High Street buildings, shops, shop fronts, houses, pubs etc..
    I was wondering if anyone has or was willing to post pictures of the above, so that they may be freely used by members to create back scenes for model railways. It may even be better to email material between members??
   I recently posted in my topic, Great Chesterford Junction, an idea gained from Railway Modeller

   http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=11121&forum_id=21&jump_to=223614#p223428

  To explain......the idea is to photograph a building / s front on and square and horizontal as possible. Then by using photo manipulation software you can add it to a project to create a streetscape. You can also add free textures to further individualize the project.

  This is the sort of shot I am talking about........minus the cars would be good??




   Now this being on an angle makes it quite difficult to work with, so unfortunately this is one of my rejects

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  This is a scene I have created with my own images and also free texture images. Parts of it may look familiar. That`s Gormo coming out of the Laundrette. There has been quite a lot of modification and manipulation done here but I like the way it`s shaping up. This image below prints out on plain A4 paper in the Lanscape orientation, however it has been resized for this topic and the quality will not be as good.



 I have been in touch with CG Textures and they are quite happy for their textures to be used in this way. 
 So I am putting out the feelers and any feed back would be appreciated.
:cheers   Gormo


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Hi Gormo,

It's a great idea and looks good. I think it could work. The only problem in potentially trying to mix and match images from different sources may be one of compression due to different focal lengths of lenses being used but it may not be a big issue.

It would certainly give the potential for greatly improved reality in back scenes. Sounds good " Gormscapes "

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G`day Toto,

   I agree Toto re different sources......however I think it would be a suck it and see exercise. The compilation I showed above was put together with a free program called " Photofiltre " and there was a lot of trimming and fudging and resizing going on, but it gave a reasonable result.
  So I think that if we assume most photos of High Street shops etc will be taken from somewhere between say 40 and 60 feet, then the software will be able to deal with it. What doesn`t work can be altered or indeed parts of photos can be used.
  The secret to this stuff is a good knowledge of the capabilities of the software. I have been experimenting with Photofiltre for about 6 or 7 years now and that`s a good way to learn.......just try stuff.
 We`ll see what comes of this topic???
:cheers  Gormo

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Another gormtastic result I suspect :mutley

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I agree, this is an excellent idea. It would be good if we could have a dedicated area of the forum, perhaps with some sub groups as a library, which is free of comment/chat so that members can easily find the images.

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Will see what I can get from the Plymouth area Gormo, but at the moment the main shopping streets are more full of empty shops than full ones.  Mind you, that is not too important as 'retailers' can be fabricated. I'll try and get some of the old shops down in the Barbican area too. Where do you want them posting to as some will be much to big for the Forum, as I would think you would want the full  sized image to play with.

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G`day Bittern,
  Thanks so much for your offer.
  I guess at this stage email is the best option because we don`t want to bog down the forum with too many megabytes.
  I could then put them up on my website for download as an interim solution, however I don`t have a massive capacity on there.
  I am open to suggestions in respect of having a pool of free material for members.
  I will PM you my email address.
Thank you
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Don't forget the forum assets, the Prototype photograph section.

Whilst I understand that pictures should be [preferably] square-on for 'Gormscapes'.

'mynnyddog' * i.e. member Dave Maeden has contributed literally hundreds of structure photographs, as have others.

Slightly skewed pictures can be straightened using a free program called 'Gimp', too.

Doug

* If you are looking for a prototype for ideas, just click on his galleries, but be sure you have a good I'net connection, there are 'millyuns' there!

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Gormo, you need an app called PTLens, it does a similar job to that done by a tilt/shift lens to correct converging verticals and/or horizontals. It can be run as a standalone or as a plug in to Photoshop, Paint shop pro and Photoline

http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/

The trial version allows you to manipulate up to 10 images Ideally it needs the original image file with EXIF data, it needs to know which lens in order to work best, without that it can do some basic corrections.

I've used it before to square up some fancy window and door surrounds, but it will do complete buildings just as well

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gormo wrote:Now this being on an angle makes it quite difficult to work with, so unfortunately this is one of my rejects




Hi Gormo,

It doesn't have to be. 3D areas (the recessed doorway) are difficult to correct, but a flat frontage can be corrected in most graphics programs:



The result here is of poor quality because of starting from a low-res original, but given the original hi-res version, a reasonable result should be possible from an angled original. Good enough for some cropping and pasting at least.

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OK Guys,
Thanks for the input.....I`ll have to check out some of the ideas proposed here. ie...software , pictures already available on the forum etc.
I`ll be back
:cheers  Gormo

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Right !!!
   I have checked my software and I can do corrections as suggested. It`s a bit of a pain but it works.
   The Prototype buildings section has quite a lot of material within and is a good source of material. The resolution is low of course, but I don`t think it matters that much for a background. I will have to print out some examples and see how they look.
   The prototypes could also just be used as reference material and backgrounds could be made up  by copying them and adding textures and parts etc.
   I am considering drawing up a basic template with guide lines..eg..door heights, roof heights, window sizes etc which could be copied into the image manipulation software and then overlayed with textures, photographs or whatever. The fundamentals have to look to be the right size.....especially doors.
:cheers  Gormo

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Another good source of building images is Google, they can be used for backgrounds, low relief or complete buildings

Try searching for images of "Terraced houses", "Shop fronts",  or even types of building, example

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=images+flint+and+brick+houses

from this pic :

I produced this with a certain amount of work in photo editing software, and the addition of etched doors, windows, gate and fence with cast resin wall and gate pillars



Some of the images on Google may be copyright, you will usually see marks or text indicating this.

I've used shop front images from Google to alter some old printed back scenes from this


To this
It's also easy to edit names on shop fronts, change colours, or add window adverts, compare the "Lipton's" with the orange B.Harris and grey/blue Loweth

You could also change the colour of the yellowish stonework to further disguise from the original.

As Gormo suggests templates for doors and windows are very useful to get dimensions correct, on buildings and low relief I tend to use etched doors and windows where possible so use them to determine sizes, can also hold them against backscenes to check.

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Hi Gormo. A couple of pics on the way to you. Hope they are of use.

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G`day Folks,

  Dorsetmike.....good tips indeed mate....I`ve actually done some of what you suggest and it works a treat. I was not sure about the copyright though in as far as posting the backgrounds on this forum. 

  The little green shop on the far left in your last image....I`ve used that as well....found it on google images.

     Obviously it does not matter what I do at home, but I was just concerned that if they are displayed on here in backgrounds, some one may put their hand up and say " Hey that`s my image, why are you doing that without permission".....??????

The creative juices are starting to bubble.....I find this a very interesting topic
 
  Bittern....I have received the pics......one word.....perfect !!!....I`ve sent you an email reply.

  Thanks for taking the trouble to do that......it`s very much appreciated.
:cheers  Gormo


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Have a few more to come later Gormo, including a lovely old pub. And how about a Gin Distillery or Customs House.

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Hi Bittern,

  That sounds good.....I am looking forward to those pics. 


  I have cropped the first pic you sent me and dropped it into a scene.


  I have not taken any care with this street scene example......I just wanted to see how it shaped up.....in effect ... a test run only.


  For those who don`t know which building Bittern sent me.....it`s the beauty on the far right. You can see I didn`t drop it in very well because I`ve cropped the right hand side. Not to worry....the original is intact and ready to go.

  

  I`ve drawn up a simple template this afternoon to help me get the fundamental sizes correct. Really the most obvious things are the doors. In the scene above the Laundrette and Robinsons shop doors are just a tad too small. But these things can be fixed quite easily with the template.
  So there you go....a bit more fudging and shaping and cropping to be done.....but basically...it`s going to work.
  I think initially, once a scene is ready to be printed, I will print it onto an A4 label. Trim around all the roof tops and chimneys etc and then peel the back off and stick it to the wall.
  I`m not sure how well it will stick, so probably a test run on something would be the best way to go instead of making a mess on the wall....we`ll see.

:cheers  Gormo

PS...The distillery and warehouse sounds promising.

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I`m not sure how well it will stick, so probably a test run on something would be the best way to go instead of making a mess on the wall....we`ll see.


I've been using A4 labels for a few years now, the main thing to watch is beware wrinkles, work carefully from one end, just peel back an inch or so of the backing, align carefully with the edge you're starting from then gradually peel the backing a bit at a time smoothing as you go.

For backscenes I usually start by sticking a sky scene at the top of the back board, then add the cut buildings or landscape to the bottom.

I have sky scenes about 3' long by 8.5" which is the biggest my printer will cope with.

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G`day Mike,

  Thanks for the info.

  Have you ever had any problems with the A4 label lifting. In other words is the glue good enough for long term adhesion.??

:cheers  Gormo

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Not had any problems so far, probably been using label for about 3 years now. You can also get vinyl label stock, however beware some adhesive vinyl will not take print, it is supplied for stencil type cut outs similar to that used for signs. If it will take print then it is sold as label stock if it is just sold as self adhesive vinyl and in colours as well as white then it's usually for cut outs.

Vinyl is a bit better for following a profile than paper as it should stretch slightly.






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Hiya Gormo I'll add some photos from Scotland over the next week or so , just need to wrestle the decent camera back off the Ladd. Some nice old shop fronts and cottages etc around us I can snap. Also was thinking this would work well for industrial buildings and warehouses as mentioned, I'm thinking they could be mounted on card and used as a 'low relief' back scene behind an industrial area to give more depth ? Lots of possibilities as you said. I see a photo day coming on. On the storage front if space is going to be a problem then maybe members could post a group of thumbnail prints on a dedicated thread and anyone interested could p m that member with a request for a full size picture to be emailed. I know it would be better if the site could host the full images so even if a member isn't available we could still access the photos but understand this'd could take up a lot of space. 
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That looks really good Gormo. Looks like it always been like that, well since the Victorian time anyway.

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Hi Matt,

You should get some good examples in Linlithgow. Loads of shops with great character there.

Don't forget the palace :mutley

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Hiya Toto, yes was thinking Linlithgow high street but there are also some shop fronts and some rows of cottages in bo'ness and then there is SSouth Queesferry as well , so plenty of potentially around
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G`day Folks,

 Bittern....thanks.....that building you photographed for me would look good anywhere in my opinion. The resolution is brilliant and makes it quite easy to work with. Originally I mentioned Bicester in Oxford as my  basic idea for a town scene, because there is such a mixture of styles of buildings there. With your material input and material from others, Bicester will still look like Bicester only slightly different. I will have to send a background to the relatives there and ask them if they remember some of the buildings. Nah ....better not try and confuse them???

Matt....I look forward to any material you may have as well. You never know, we may be able to shift parts of Scotland to Oxfordshire???.

  I have been in contact with Alan re a dedicated area on the forum for this material. Alan in turn has done some research re the forums capacity / allowance. It seems that pictures of high resolution / quality would quickly put quite a strain on the system. The solution would be, as you say, thumbnails to show what is available, and then members would have to transfer files between each other via email.

  I suggested to Alan that we should wait and see if this subject develops into something worth dealing with in some way. At the moment interest is starting to build, but I think we should be patient for a short while before jumping into dedicated areas.

  In the meantime, it`s quite a pleasant experience with people pitching in and offering to help.

  Railway modellers are a nice bunch of people!!!

:cheers   Gormo

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Where images are already available to download on line (with no copyright problems?) maybe a list of links would save forum space. A number of us probably have images on sites such as Flickr, Picasaweb, Photobucket, etc so there should be no need to duplicate on the Forum gallery. They could also easily be displayed as an attachment to a post.

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Dorsetmike wrote: Where images are already available to download on line (with no copyright problems?) maybe a list of links would save forum space. A number of us probably have images on sites such as Flickr, Picasaweb, Photobucket, etc so there should be no need to duplicate on the Forum gallery. They could also easily be displayed as an attachment to a post.


  Hi Mike,

            That`s a good suggestion re downloading from members sites. It would preserve the forum resources and be fairly easy to work with by simply adding a link to the relevant site.

            The attachment to a post idea could be a bit awkward as it would require those posting to monitor file size and keep it under 5mb, as I understand it. The other thing is that, files that should actually be posted ( because of their small file size ) in the gallery, could end up as attachments and thereby throw out the balance of things. In effect, this method would require monitoring by the moderators to the point where it becomes an annoyance. Personally, I would steer clear of that one.

:cheers  Gormo

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A couple of ways it could be organized Gormo,  I've just done a quick browse in the prototype photos section and although there are some great pictures in there I didn't see too many that would be usable straight off. Maybe if as header was added there say ' usable photos for street scenes' or something like that ? With the first post from yourself explaining the idea ( as you have done here) with a couple of examples , A post from ' DA management ' explaining how it will work , maximum image size or thumbnails etc whatever is decided and type of posting and also thecaviat that all images are by the poster and were free from copyright and for the free use of members. Posters can then put up a post with the thumbnails or low rez images etc and where they can be accessed , members site, web page , direct by email etc . I would also suggest that posters think about sending a copy of the high rez pictures donated, stating they are copyright free, to a couple of senior members so that a hard copy of the library can be maintained in case of accidental wiping or a member not being around for any length of time
Just my twopence worth 
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Apologies for another wall of text don't get too much practice these days and my writing skills are quite rusty
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Thanks Matt,

  Don`t worry about the wall of text because you`ve explained your ideas very well. I think if this thing get`s off the ground, it should follow exactly the format that you have suggested.

  I`ve been looking at ways of making my own material available offsite and as yet have not settled on one particular method. It will fall into place eventually, like most things do.

 The other thing that comes to mind ( while I think of it???) is that I thought I would make my finished backgrounds available as well for anyone who wants them. Obviously they may not be to everyone`s taste, but they could be used as templates and overlayed with other material to individualize them.

 Just a thought?

:cheers  Gormo



 

 

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A great idea Gormo...........you don't have any finished versions of your turntable lying about by any chance do you.:mutley

Your background is good and I'm sure there would be loads of people only to happy to have them grace their layout.

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Sorry Toto old chap!!

  No I don`t happen to have any spare turntables lying about......I feel I should have though, just in case somebody wants one.......now that you mention it.:hmm

  You see, once this 3D printing technology gets sorted out properly, you would think that my 3D printer could send your 3D printer the relevant info and yours could print one out !!!!!....simple really??? I could just scan it and send it.

 One could take in one step further in the future and we could start emailing ourselves across the world via molecular transfer. I could email myself to your shed and be there in 2 minutes???

  I know..you`re thinking... Gormos nuts!!!...but just remember where you heard it first ????

  Now where are those pills :hmm:hmm:hmm

 Oh and thanks....I`m glad you like the backgrounds

:cheers  Gormo

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gormo wrote:
 One could take in one step further in the future and we could start emailing ourselves across the world via molecular transfer. I could email myself to your shed and be there in 2 minutes???

  I know..you`re thinking... Gormos nuts!!!...but just remember where you heard it first ????

  Now where are those pills :hmm:hmm:hmm

 Oh and thanks....I`m glad you like the backgrounds

:cheers  Gormo


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A free Dropbox account will give you a couple of gigabytes of storage that you can share files from and then if you then recommend others you receive extra free space.

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Nuts ........ NAH ............completely off the rails maybe.

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Hi Andy,

  I have checked out what you said re a Drop Box.

  Got one tonight.....lets test it out. Hopefully I can paste a link here and away we go.



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Ok ....That`s not good.

Apologies to moderators......please delete that mistake.

Gormo


Try again fingers crossed




  https://www.dropbox.com/s/1kg3ee18u4ydfjr/bicester%20streetscape.jpg?dl=0

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OK Folks,

  After a shaky start I think it is going to work out well. Andy made a suggestion about a drop box which will allow members to access material / photographs via a link posted on the forum.

  I signed up for a free account with Dropbox. com which gives me 2GB of storage. That should be plenty to cover what I`m doing.

  https://www.dropbox.com/

 You transfer files on your computer to the dropbox folder which is installed onto your system. Once you transfer the files on your computer they automatically upload to your online Dropbox site.

 When you sign in to your Dropbox online site, you can create a link to any photograph there, which you can copy and paste onto this forum. The link will allow access to that photograph.

 The thumbnail posted above was 200 x 118 @ 69.14kb.

:cheers  Gormo

 

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Unfortunately my Dropbox is nearly full of music.

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G`day Dorsetmike,

  With your drop box full of music, you must be rockin`& rollin` wherever you go. :thumbs

 By the way, the thumbnail posted earlier does not match the download pic. What`s the saying " More haste less speed?"

:cheers  Gormo

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With your drop box full of music, you must be rockin`& rollin` wherever you go. :thumbs

Nowt so common, a mixture of Baroque period classical and Big Band Swing and Jazz (Trad and Modern up to about 1980, none of the more recent tuneless cacophony cr@p like Sun Ra etc)

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Hi Gormo,
This is a very crude go from your posting at straightening the perspective simply using Paint. The door and right hand window in the entry was narrowed and the right hand window copied, reversed and positioned in the block left open... out of interest, how far away is your "view"?
Now we need a collection of these and I have a number I took in England 4 years ago but I need to find them... 
Hope the idea helps you,
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G`day G`day....how are we all doin`??

 Thanks folks for the input so far. I didn`t have a clue about drop boxes until Andy tipped me off yesterday and also Trevor`s correction of a low res image is pretty good, considering he didn`t have much to work with.

 Now you see folks....I had completely written off Paint as a useful photo tool and now Trevor shows us what can be done......excellent!!!

  Trevor ....do you mean how far away was I when I took that photo or do you mean how far away is my background view on the railway????.  At the moment I`m doing buildings on the backgrounds to the same scale as my Metcalfes ( 1/76th) but as I get more adept at it I might try reducing them to give the illusion of distance.

 The photograph you corrected was taken from across the street in Bicester (2010).....maybe 60 to 80 feet or 20 to 27 metres???

 I would be interested to see your photos and possibly use some if that`s OK.

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Gormo you are quite welcome to use these  Cheers  Trevor

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Oh Trevor,

  That`s great......I`ll be in touch.......time for bed for the Gormster.

  I just quickly pasted one of your pics without any mods into a backscene and it looks pretty good

 What do you reckon?



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Hi  Gormo
Just to show how the image can be further manipulated ( without trying to play a game of "Can You Top This?"). This was purely using Paint and I transplanted the windows but changed the bricks around and added quoins to the corners,



Out of interest, what is the backdrop you are using? Is it public domain? 
Hope this is of help that the majority of us can use Paint or some such cheap program and get good results
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G`day Trevor,

  Good job there on the background. Yes I agree ,we can get good results with low cost or free software. I am running XP and my version of Paint really does not have the functionality I am looking for. Either that or I`m just hopeless at using it???

 I am using Photofiltre. A free program with good tools. Trouble is the new version has more bells and whistles but it has lost a couple of useful functions that the old version had. So I use a combination of the two.

  For example....I did this in the new version....the old version would struggle a bit with this. I could keep working on it and sort it out properly as you have done with Paint and I probably will



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xdford wrote: Hi  Gormo
Just to show how the image can be further manipulated ( without trying to play a game of "Can You Top This?"). This was purely using Paint and I transplanted the windows but changed the bricks around and added quoins to the corners,



 

Trevor, can you give a basic "how to do it" with Paint?   What you've done is very good but I wouldn't have a clue where to start!

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Funny you should ask that Ken, My ears must have been burning and I was thinking of you among others...
Give  it a few minutes and the tutorial will start to appear if SWMO doesn't call me for tea first!
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Hi Gormo

If your still using (risky) Windows XP, you could try GIMP, if you haven't already.

http://www.gimp.org/


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As promised a few minutes ago
Have a look at the menu. I like to have a large working area so that I can put stuff on the blank parts of the document
Copy and paste the original into Paint like below


Note the "Select" Tool about an inch (25mm) from the left hand side in the top menu as well as the ""Rotate" button alongside it.












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Hi Ed,

   Yes I`ve tried GIMP......it tested my patience and I chucked it....maybe I should try again???

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Hope that helps a few people on the forum ... 
Cheers
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Good one Trevor

Thanks for that......well explained....clear and concise.:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

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G`day Folks,

I took some tips from Trevor and fixed up poor old O`Gormans Electrical.



Thanks Trevor

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Hi Brian,  Hope you don't mind that I shortened the text by moving the "Gorman's" to the left and used swatches of the grayish wite to blank out the O' on the left and the white that was created on the right...
This will be the most rerun picture in history if we keep going!!!
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Hi Trevor,

 Nah!!.....that`s fine mate...no worries......I`ll just have to slip it into a background now before we  wear it out :mutley:mutley:mutley

:cheers   and Happy Fathers Day to all the Dads on the forum

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G`day Folks,
  Here`s my first proper background using material supplied by Bittern and XDFord. I`m rather chuffed with how this looks, even in a temporary position on my layout.












 I have also put the background on my Drop Box if anyone would like to use it.

   https://www.dropbox.com/s/aoqje3b0rl50huz/Medieval%20Buildings.jpg?dl=0


 Many thanks gentlemen

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That looks tremendous - and almost three dimensional in the first picture.   Very well done Gormo.

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Thanks for that Trevor but my XP version of Paint doesn't have that long top bar with Crop/Resize/Rotate etc., etc so I can't do it!   I've searched for an updated download but no luck I'm afraid.

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Hope that helps a few people on the forum ... 
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Blimey Gormo, that looks great! I'm well impressed!

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Actually Ken, it does allow you to rotate/ flip horizontal etc in XP but I will have to check it to work out how it works as my XP based machine has "died" and thanks to Microsofts less than adequate support on a very less than adequate and over priced product, I cannot double check it for you. 
Someone else can double check this for me but if you click on the select area, you will see a "transform" aspect which will then allow you to rotate. You do not need those tools to reduce the respective width of a section,
If you are unsure, try the help section of the Program (F1 key) and try rotation and/or transform
Hope that helps
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Thanks Ken & Barney,

  I`m really happy with how it`s turning out......but it`s down to the material you`ve got to work with and for that I am grateful for the help received from Bittern & XDFord.
  The thing is too......this background is just printed onto plain everyday bog standard A4 paper and held up by Blue Tac. The best is yet to come I hope.
  Ken....I can recommend Photofiltre for some of the tasks you wish perform. I am running two versions 6.5.1 and 7.1.2. I am more comfortable with the older version. The newer version has some extra functions which are good as well, so I switch between the two to give me the best of both worlds. There is a bit of a learning curve involved, but they are fairly intuitive once you learn your way around them. I will place the download links below for you if you want to try them.

Older version       http://photofiltre.free.fr/frames_en.htm        Click on downloads

Newest version     http://www.photofiltre-studio.com/pf7-en.htm    Click on Photofiltre 7.1.2

:cheers  Gormo

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Gormo that looks great ! The building on the right, think that's the one bittern supplied ? You can actually see the clouds and sky reflected in the windows which gives it depth and realism. Some of these scenes you see where the windows and doors have been 'cropped' and replaced just don't look real ?  Well done mate :). My car is waiting for a new clutch ( in on Wednesday) so hopefully I will be out and about on Thursday with the camera . I have a drop box account so can post them up there. Its nice to think we can help bring a little slice of the UK into the layouts of those who just can't make it over here to take pictures themselves. I'm thinking maybe we should start a 'where's whilly' contest but maybe using an ' In the wall' post box ( I know I've seen one somewhere ) so anyone doing a back scene could try to photoshop in the in the wall postbox . yup just a daft bit o fun :mutley
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G`day Matt,

 I`m looking forward to seeing what you come up with on your photo shoot and I`m glad you like the backscene. My wife was impressed too.....and that takes some doing I can tell you!!
Any way here`s another compilation.......it`s a real mixture this time but I think it will do.


Full resolution copy from
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  Cheers and goodnight all
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Ken wrote: Thanks for that Trevor but my XP version of Paint doesn't have that long top bar with Crop/Resize/Rotate etc., etc so I can't do it!   I've searched for an updated download but no luck I'm afraid.

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Ken, I did a check for the rotate etc for XP and there is a fuller shaped manual  I found in http://www.reading.ac.uk/web/files/www_File_Library/A_Guide_to_Microsoft_Paint_(XP).pdf . In essence read the article from around Page 12 after you have selected the area and click on "Image" otherwise the controls are simiar and you should be able to replicate most of the things I have done,  Regards  Trevor

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Many thanks for that Trevor, it's exactly the same screen that I have so I've saved it and will study up on it later.

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G`day Folks,

  Here`s the latest...I`ve put my brother in law into the real estate business. Actually he`d be good at it.!!



Full resolution copy at

   https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0ohh19ydcgfg48m/AAAzzTKchsOlDKEwSjMDoR4Ja?dl=0

  Click on the image you want. When it opens in the Black screen, click the three dots ( ... ) in the bottom right hand corner. Click on Download in the menu that opens.

    

  I also thought I would do a panorama to show how these things can go together.



 You can reverse any of these individual scenes by flipping them horizontally. But first you should copy all the signs and save them temporarily. Once you`ve reversed the image, copy and paste the signs back into their positions.

:cheers  Gormo

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I assume these are 4mm scale, might it be an idea to include the scale along with the text you have at top left of each image.

[nitpick] On downloading "Gorman's Electrical"  by my measurement of the door on "Juliana" if it's 4mm it scales not far short of 8' high which seems a bit large to me, I usually reckon doors at between 6'6" and 7' high.[/nitpick]


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G`day Mike,
   I have not printed that one yet.....so didn`t pick up on that.
   I may have to find a better way of adjusting these doors to the correct height. I`ll sleep on that one.
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They look fantastic Gormo. :thumbs:thumbs

All this computer manipulation is beyond my current one-finger typing but it's certainly something to keep in mind for future learnings ..........

Just a very minor point - I'm assuming from the buildings that this is a UK setting in which case, your BIL, Mr Conway,  would be an "Estate Agent" and not "Real Estate" - that's just a tad too American/Australian for tender British minds - particularly in that era.  :roll::roll::roll:

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Well spotted Peter,

   I have to think more carefully before I launch into these things. You see, growing up in the great land of Oz, one takes these things for granted, and assumes it would be the same terminology with our cousins in Britain. Not so you say.....ah!!! well I will have to fix that otherwise it will annoy me every time I look at it.
   I have to fix a door on another scene as well ,as Mike pointed out, and I think , I now have two methods to try out, to make sure that doesn`t happen again. 


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Ok Folks,

   Adjustments and corrections have been made as suggested and files uploaded.

     https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0ohh19ydcgfg48m/AAAzzTKchsOlDKEwSjMDoR4Ja?dl=0

    I have also improved the method for the door template so hopefully it`s sorted.
   Thanks for the input.

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G`day Folks,
  Well a little more experimenting has been going on. I am trying to work in a street running off into the distance, in between buildings. The fundamentals are there ,but the blending of colours and the correct neighbouring buildings has not quite been sorted. Nonetheless, it`s moving forward and the possibilities are becoming evident.
 Trevor has been sending me pictures and Mick also provided that wonderful old building in the first group. I`ve also found material on free textures sites plus of course my own material.
 Unfortunately this subject has got a grip on my creative tendencies at the moment and the poor old railway is not getting a look in. 
 Anyway this is what I`ve been playing with. This is not the final product ,but merely a tester to see how it looks. I need to darken the road in the background for a start. Sorry about the fuzzy first pic, but it`s just a reference to show where parts are sited



  I like the concept of this, especially with people in the background. I took the pic of the stone cottages last year in Castle Combe. This angle is not the best....the next lot are better.




  This angle is better




 Unfortunately the wall is not completely smooth, so we have a textured sky.







  So there you go.....with the right amount of fiddling and blending and adjusting, it will work out quite well I think.
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The perspective looks good Gormo.

The only problem with including people is your restricting the time period because of the style of dress and in this case it's summer as they're wearing shorts.

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Very true indeed Ed,
 But this is just a test run and I`m sure there must be a way to insert people who are dressed to suit the period.
 Now let me see??????.....where did I put those little people.?????
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Talk to Marty, I'm sure he's got a secret army of 2mm people that build scenery for him :mutley


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I like the look of that, only thing that would seem to be awkward is going to be matching the colours of the roads and blending in kerbs, have fun!

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Excellent start Gormo and an excellent idea. :thumbs

These "how do I blend something into the backscene so it looks 3D" problems are with us all.  It does of course, depend on the area you're modelling - Castle Combe wouldn't suit the "mucky pennine are" I'm modelling but the idea is great. :pathead Some cotton/woollen  mills on each side of a dark cobbled road would do me .................:roll::roll::roll:  Those "dark satanic mills" so often remembered ..............;-)


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G`day Folks,

  Just a sample of what can be done with free software and a little bit of effort.

  The original photograph 



 Now ,minus the people, and with a new road and pavement colour




  A 1/76th scale figure that could be cut and pasted into either of the above.




  But hey !!!!......lets make him a bit more life like




  And why not put him and some of his brothers into a scene



 Pictures can tell terrible lies these days.
  Well I hope you all have had a good laugh :mutley:mutley:mutley

:cheers  Gormo   :chicken:chicken:chicken:chicken

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How did you recolour the roadway? Program? Small Tutorial (...Pleeze...)?
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And where did the little people go ? ................:shock::shock::shock::shock:

Superb Gormo. :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

Looking forward to the tutorial ........;-)

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  I`m off to visit my dear mother and sister for the day but I`ll respond properly tonight. In the meantime, Trevor, the program was Photofiltre ( The older version ) and Peter, I think the little people must have gone back to Marty. They probably had to do some work on his railway????.....Who knows??????

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Hi Gormo,

I know yesterday we were chatting about family history, but I didn't realise there is a little town known as Vale O'Gormo !:mutley Your brothers are a striking resemblance with quite a similar dress sense too...!

It was good having a catch up yesterday.

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Made me chuckle, first thing on a Sunday morning :mutley

Well done, just shows what can be done without spending mega-bucks on famous name software  :thumbs


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Hi Gormo,

The back scene is great. I think the road colouring is bang on. The perspective has worked in wonderfully.

These little people look very mischievous though.:mutley

Great stuff

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Although it might not be my "thing" I recognise talent when I see it, Gormo.

What you're doing is going to add a new dimension to peoples' layouts.

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Very clever Gormo, your gents even change from left handed to right handed.    Be good if you good teach a thicko such as me to do this.    Just as an aside  We have natural textured sky at times ,  they are usually modelling days .:mutley

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G`day Folks,
  Thanks for the comments......I`m glad you like the way it`s going. I must point out that I am still finding the limits of what`s possible and I`m still honing my skills with the software. I am by no means an expert, I have just learned this software by trying things.....experimenting and playing about until I understand a particular function. I would recommend this to any of you. Get a picture you would like to play about with, and try any settings or functions you like with whatever image software you might have, and see what happens. As long as you don`t save the changes to the original file / image....there`s no harm done. You will quickly build up your knowledge and understanding of how your particular software works and also you will realize what may be possible.
  Anyway I am using Photofiltre 6.5.1 and 7.1.2 ,side by side in some cases, to get the results I want. I am most familiar with the older 6.5.1 and prefer it, although 7.1.2 has added functions which are used from time to time. I find the newer version a bit bogged down by extra functions and does not flow as well as the older. This is just my personal preference.....others may prefer the reverse.?
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Warning!! when downloading software you may be asked if you wish to install the Ask Toolbar and also other items. I would recommend you skip or decline or cancel those items and just carry on to the Photofiltre selection.
   Photofiltre 6.5.1 does not appear to be available on the above site. Anyone wanting a copy can PM me.

  
  Right!!!!......firstly to remove the people from my image I used the clone tool. The clone tool can replicate the area near the part you wish to hide and transfer it over the top of that part. The radius of the area to be copied is adjustable. Usually between 5 and 10 gives a good result. If you select fixed radius it simply copies the same area over and over and does not blend into the surrounds as well. To get very precise results with any of the functions, I would suggest you enlarge the picture by simply rolling your mouse wheel backwards. Roll it forward to make it smaller. This can help greatly, and when the pic is returned to normal size again the results will be far better and changes less obvious.

 To activate the clone, left click on the clone symbol.Move the cursor cross hairs over the part you wish to copy and then press and hold the control key. A little white clone symbol will appear.Then, while still holding down the control key, left click the mouse. Then release the control key. Move the cursor over the part you wish to cover and start clicking. It will take some practice but it is not too difficult. You may have to reset the clone area as you move along because it may track into areas you don`t wish to copy




  To change the colour of the road first of all you need to select the area you wish to change. Again, enlarge the photo with the mouse. It makes the process much easier but you must be methodical and patient.To select the area, left click on the arrow shown below and then left click on the Polygon shape. I find the polygon good for irregular shapes.

 

  Now left click on the point where you wish to start, and then start dragging a line along the edge of the area. If you are following an irregular or curved line you can left click on the mouse to stop and restart the selection line ,in effect doing a number of short lines to negotiate the area. An example would be like laying a course of bricks around a curve. The overall effect looks like a curve even though it`s a series of short straight lines.

  Bear in mind that you are going to have to complete a circuit of the object / area in order to completely select it. With the photo enlarged ,you will possibly eventually reach the edge of the screen and then need to continue further. If this is the case ,then simply use the mouse to select the scroll bars on the side or bottom of the screen to reveal more area. This will not cancel the area selection process but will just allow you to carry on. 

 

    Once you have circumnavigated the object / area and returned to your starting point, the last line you are dragging should automatically connect to the starting point when you get quite close to it. When this happens , left click once more and your selected area will be highlighted as a series of moving dashed lines. If  the line has not connected properly, and the dashed lines do not appear, hit the enter key and this will force the line to connect.

   Now the method I have used to achieve a grey road is simple. Click on Filter at the top of the screen, scroll down to Color then to Grayscale .




  Left click on Grayscale and the area will turn grey. In the example below, the people have not been removed and consequently those with parts of their person in the selection area, have had those parts turned grey as well. The software will colour what ever is in the area.

  

   To colour other areas, follow the same sort of process again.

 When you`ve finished, save the file / image as a new or separate one from the original ,as you may wish to retain the original or indeed revisit the project with fresh ideas. 
   I should point out too that whilst an area is selected, a number of factors can be changed, including brightness, contrast, hue, colour etc. and those factors will only effect that selected area. There are so many possibilities that can be covered but the subject is a bit too large to go into much detail here.
  I hope this info helps and I hope it is clear and concise. I am too close to this software and I take things for granted and I may not have explained it properly.

  Any queeries.....don`t hesitate to ask and I will do my best to help. Alternatively Photofiltre has a help file included in the software package.
  :cheersGormo

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Exelent how to Gormo thanks for that. Think once the wet weather returns and the wife takes off the gardening / decorating chains I'll have a go...one related guest I on , the software you mention you say about using 2 versions ? Now when ever I install a new version of anything it normally deletes the older version.. How do you get round that ?  Does it give you a choice ? Must admit I've never looked !
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G`day Matt,
   The simple answer to your question is......don`t know????
   I had the older version of Photofiltre installed and working on my system. Lately I`ve been trying all sorts of image manipulation software to see if I could improve on what I had. I decided to revisit the Photofiltre web site to see what was happening there. I saw the new version and thought that it would be worth a go. I downloaded it. Installed it. No messages came up about previous versions as usually happens. I clicked on the short cut for the program and the old version opened. I went into the directory and found the new version, clicked on that and it opened. Then I found I could open both of them at the same time, side by side or one over the top of the other.........bonus!!!
  I don`t how it works or why it works.......but I like it!!!
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Hi Brian (and everyone else),
Thought I would include this for everyone as I was watching the series "Kingdom" tonight ( we recorded it through the day) and I was taken by the view of the pub. There are a number of images of the town as well that might be useful for the tasks we are doing so far!
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=the+greyhound+inn+swaffham&biw=1600&bih=775&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NtUWVPW6JJa78gWsg4D4BA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg

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G`day Trevor,
  Thanks for the link.....that`s a wee ripper of a little scene there........perfect perspective I think.
  I`ll paste the link again so it`s easier to get to.

   https://www.google.com.au/search?q=the+greyhound+inn+swaffham&biw=1600&bih=775&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NtUWVPW6JJa78gWsg4D4BA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg
:cheers  Gormo

By the way...here`s an edit in the form of the latest background and download link.

   https://www.dropbox.com/s/4690rqvr3ycd2vx/safron%20walden%20grey%20paving.jpg?dl=0



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Here's a country pub for you Brian, best real ales and really evil scrumpy; been in the same family for over 100 years

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=square+%26+compass+worth+matravers+images&biw=1280&bih=600&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=bO0WVK7ODYXX7AbR_4CwDw&ved=0CCAQsAQ

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G`day Folks,

  Thanks for the pics Mike....I imagine it would be very easy to spend a lazy afternoon in that pub.....very nice.!!

  Now folks.....Trevor has been asking some questions about Photofiltre in regards to changing perspective. I`ve offered to do a tutorial for him and anyone else who would like to look in....please do.

  So here we go.
  This is a picture taken in London last year. As you can see it`s a reasonably level street passing the terraces. We are going to turn this level street into a slight hill. Bear in mind that, if this street were originally a hill, we could make a reasonable attempt to flatten it out. 
  The point that will be most obvious in terms of perspective is the reference point. The corner of the building. The corner of the building should be a close as possible to vertical once adjustments have been made and all other lines should slope away from this point to the horizon. We are going to raise the right hand side of the image by using the Skew tool. To do this, left click on Image in the top menu and then left click on Skew. The Skew control box will open. The Skew control box has a slider for adjustment and the option to adjust either the Horizontal or Vertical axis. If you left click once ,directly on top of the slider ,you can then use the right or left arrow keys to move the slider in 1% increments.




  Now you can set the adjustment to whatever you like, but to control the adjustment and ease the picture into what you would like, it`s probably best to increment 1 or 2% at a time. Set the adjustment and left click OK. If you wish to increase again by the same increment, open the Skew box again. Your previous setting will still be there, so you can just click OK again to adjust by the same amount.
  Our example below has lifted by 10% on the right hand side and consequently distorted the corner of the building. The person on the push bike will have to pedal a bit harder now.




  To correct the corner of the building, we now change to the Horizontal axis adjustment within the Skew tool. The set up is just the same as mentioned above re the slider etc. and you can see the slider has been set to the negative side of the scale to encourage the top corner of the building to move left  back towards the vertical plane.
  If you set the slider to the wrong side and the picture moves in the wrong direction, just click on the Undo arrow in the top menu. This will restore the picture to it`s former setting allowing you to start again in the right direction.




  Once you are happy with the look of the picture, it can be cropped to further improve the look of it. You don`t have to crop it, you could use the Clone tool and fill the white areas...it`s up to you?
  To Crop, left click on the white arrow and then select the shape of the crop. I have chosen a rectangle in this case. The rectangle is the default setting, however if you have used other shapes in your editing you may have to reset it.
  Move the cursor over the picture to the point where you wish to start cropping. 
  Then left click and hold down and drag the Crop box into the shape and size you want on the picture. The shape can be further adjusted once you release the mouse button. Move the cursor to the edge of the box and arrows will appear, allowing you to modify the shape by clicking and dragging once more.
 To activate the Crop, move the cursor to any part inside the crop box. Right click to open a sub menu. On the sub menu, left click on Crop and this will activate the cropping process.

 

  You can also reverse the image if you wish to slot it into a scene. Select Image from the top menu and then select Flip Horizontal.
  For the purposes of this exercise I have put the two views into one picture below.
  You may notice that the corner of my building is not perfectly vertical. I did not want to distort the left hand side of the pic any further so I compromised the vertical. This is all purely personal preference but at least you have the tools here to make those choices. The interesting thing about the reversed picture, is that the corner of the building looks closer to vertical to my eye. Maybe I should put my glasses on??? or maybe it`s an optical illusion caused by the shadows.
  Things like the black pole can be selected, copied and pasted and rotated back to a vertical position if you wish or just blended out altogether.

 

  So there you go folks.....that`s how it`s done
:cheers  Gormo

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G`day Folks,

  Gormo got the wrong end of the stick in that last tutorial and blindly charged ahead. Trevor had actually expressed an interest in the Trapezoid / Perspective tool, not the Skew tool as I had assumed.

  Well the bonus is that both these tools compliment each other and the results are similar, however I would suggest that the Trapezoid / Perspective tool is more controllable. At the end of the day, it doesn`t matter because now I will submit a short tutorial on the Trapezoid / Perspective tool.

  The subject we are going to manipulate is one sent to me by Trevor.....a delightful little building. The angle does not quite suit the work I am doing with railway backgrounds and also the people will have to go, but that`s another story.




  What we want to do here is raise the right hand side roof and lower the right hand side base of the building. 
  So we open the photograph into Photofiltre. Then at the top of the screen left click on Filter. A drop down menu will appear. Scroll down to Deform and then across to Trapezoid / Perspective. Left click on Trapezoid / Perspective.
  The control box will open. Slide both sliders to 100%, if they are not already there, before moving any further into this manipulation, and then click on Preview. The picture should not change. Now you have a base point to work from.




  Now we are dealing with the Vertical plane in this case, and like the previous tutorial, if you left click on the slider you will be able to control it with the left and right arrow keys, incrementing by 1% at a time if you so wish.
  Increase Right distort by possibly 2% and then left click on Preview and check the results. Add more if you need to ,but keep a critical eye on how the image is distorting. With some images it may work better by decreasing the left hand side whilst increasing the right hand side. It`s a balancing act between perspective and distortion.
  If the image needs correction in the Horizontal plane.....for example if the walls appear to taper in as they rise to the top of the building....just follow the same formula and use both sliders if necessary.
  When you have Previewed any of your changes ,and you are happy to commit to the changes, left click on OK. Obviously you can cancel at any time or you can undo any changes by left clicking on the Undo key at the top of the screen.
  I would also suggest ,as I`ve said before, use Save As when saving the file and save it with a different file name. This will ensure the original remains unchanged and you can redo the whole exercise if you wish.

  So this is what can be done. This image still requires some work to remove people but the angle is far more suitable for my modelling purposes. To remove the man leaning on the right hand bay window, I copied and pasted the left hand bay window over the top of it. You can still see his shoe if you look carefully.





Well folks I hope that has been of some use.
:cheers  Gormo

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Great how to Gormo, many thanks for posting it.

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No worries Ken,
I`m glad you enjoyed it
:cheers  Gormo

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Hi Brian,
Thanks again for that!  Between us both I think we have the market cornered!
Cheers
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Your Welcome Trevor,
I don`t know about cornering any markets.......there`s a lot of talent out there???
:cheers  Gormo

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HI Brian,
All I was meaning into is our skills between Paint and Photofiltre and I would hope no one would take offence - none was intended ... now if someone could do a GIMP tutorial and we would all be covered with free software!
There is obviously a lot of talent in the group so if they can see fit to also give us tutorials, that can only help members of the Barchester church.
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G`day Trevor,

  I don`t think any one would take offence at that......surely not????

  So yes please.......all you GIMP users out there......could one of you please do a tutorial????
  I have tried using GIMP a few times now, over a couple of years, and quite frankly found it frustrating.
  What am I doing wrong?????

:cheers  Gormo

 

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G`day folks,

  Here is the latest background. I have used Trevors building that was used as an example in the tutorial above, and some of my own pics and some free textures.

  This latest example is in two parts and will require some careful cutting to match the two.

  This is the complete scene

 


 This is part A or left hand side



And this is part B or the right hand side




 All of the above are available in full resolution at

  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0ohh19ydcgfg48m/AAAzzTKchsOlDKEwSjMDoR4Ja?dl=0


 :cheers  Gormo

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Must say , looking really good Gormo ! You definitely have a talent with the editing tools Sir. I did go out the week before last to get some pics of Linlithgow high street shops but not much success I'm afraid. The only time I could catch the shops without cars parked in front and without getting run over is about 6.30 in the morning and we are now getting into winter light so I just couldn't get a decent clear picture with good lighting. Even that time in the morning its still quite busy so no standing in the middle of the road taking a low light shot. Not unless I want to ride the front bumper of a no 38 bus all the way in to Edinburgh although that could make for some interesting action shots :mutley . I'll keep trying but it might need to wait till spring light next year when its good and bright that timer in the morning. Might make a trip into south Queensferry sometime as they have so many parking restrictions I might be able to get some afternoon shots . we shall see 
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HI Brian,
I very much like the putting together  and the perspective curving away but is the shingle roof meant to be "curved" above the "Robinson's" building?  I am not sure it is one I sent you! Is it a victim of the forced perspective?
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xdford wrote: HI Brian,
I very much like the putting together  and the perspective curving away but is the shingle roof meant to be "curved" above the "Robinson's" building?  I am not sure it is one I sent you! Is it a victim of the forced perspective?
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G`day Trevor,

  The building is one of my shots from Bicester in 2010 and the ridge of the roof is dodgey as you can see from the original pic below. The original pic is not doctored in any way. I have lifted it out of the original and used a bit of artistic licence on the left hand side. I have tried to imply that the roof on the left, is an eave overhanging a window, that may be looking across the roof tops on the left. The extension on the right hand side, again is a bit of licence to blend it in to it`s neighbour because the original seems to do that to it`s left hand neighbour.

  If you think it looks a bit suspect, you must be right....so maybe I should make some adjustments. I don`t know???

  I`m open to ideas on that one!!!

  By the way....the only building of yours in the photo is the one on the extreme right in the panaorama....the one with the garden next to it.



Original Image



Compilation


  Now Matt.....I don`t want you getting run over mate!!!......and also waiting for better light is probably a good idea as well. You can see from the original and the compilation above that there are ways of getting around cars being in the way. The upper part of the building can be used and a new and different lower part can be fudged into play. The white building on the right in the compilation has a laundrette under it whereas the real building, in the original, has a barber shop below it and it is also on the left of the Robinsons upper building. Actually there has been a lot of manipulation in my little scene.

  So Matt....please don`t take any risks snapping photos....it`s not worth it and I don`t want you getting hurt. !!!

:cheers  Gormo


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Thought I'd have a play with it, I didn't like some of the roof lines so did a bit of copy/paste, resizing and some cloning with this result



right hand end of barber shop roof copied, flipped and pasted over left end, similar treatment for Laundrette and Press roof, Laundrette window moved up, Robinsons upper stories reduced in height, (a bit too much!) ideally should have made the timber over the window level with eaves either side and roof hacked. Took about 25 minutes

On reflection, I probably should have converted to a TIFF file instead of JPG to work on it, repeated saves of JPGs tend to degrade the image. Also probably should have made the Laundrette upper storey match the Press.  May redo later, time for some grub.

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Further tweaks,



As it is it fits A4 sheet, so about N gauge, so for 00 will need splitting and resizing.

Further alternative




 

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G`day Mike,

  Well you can see what`s possible with images. They can be tailored to suit. Thanks for doing that and you may have given me some new ideas to play about with.???

:cheers  Gormo

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I got started by "editing" scanned and downloaded kits, shifting doors and windows, adding porches etc, moved on to downloading images of buildings from Google and playing about with them. Also modified some countryside backscenes, which I downloaded, so that they could be joined, also added cows, sheep, a tractor and farmworkers.

I'm rarely satisfied with anything "out of the box" add detail to and/or renumber locos,  hack kits - stock or buildings.

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Hi All,

I was half looking at our ABC last might at an episode of "Happy Valley" just as our daughter rang from interstate... and a full front view came up about the 33 minute mark of a typical front/pub/in/whatever that if it were screen dumped would translate well for our purposes. Aussie members may be able to access it on Iview, in which case you could pause it, press "alt and Prt Scrn keys together and paste into "Paint" then trim it and save it.
My internet at the moment is really slow so I cannot actually do it for you but that could change...
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Great stuff Gormo,Thats really going to free peoples choices of back scenes.

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Thanks Derek,

  I hope this topic is of some  use for people wishing to go down the DIY route.

  At the moment I am focusing on the railway so this topic has been parked for a while.

:cheers  Gormo


                 

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