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Well spotted Peter,

   I have to think more carefully before I launch into these things. You see, growing up in the great land of Oz, one takes these things for granted, and assumes it would be the same terminology with our cousins in Britain. Not so you say.....ah!!! well I will have to fix that otherwise it will annoy me every time I look at it.
   I have to fix a door on another scene as well ,as Mike pointed out, and I think , I now have two methods to try out, to make sure that doesn`t happen again. 


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Ok Folks,

   Adjustments and corrections have been made as suggested and files uploaded.

     https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0ohh19ydcgfg48m/AAAzzTKchsOlDKEwSjMDoR4Ja?dl=0

    I have also improved the method for the door template so hopefully it`s sorted.
   Thanks for the input.

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G`day Folks,
  Well a little more experimenting has been going on. I am trying to work in a street running off into the distance, in between buildings. The fundamentals are there ,but the blending of colours and the correct neighbouring buildings has not quite been sorted. Nonetheless, it`s moving forward and the possibilities are becoming evident.
 Trevor has been sending me pictures and Mick also provided that wonderful old building in the first group. I`ve also found material on free textures sites plus of course my own material.
 Unfortunately this subject has got a grip on my creative tendencies at the moment and the poor old railway is not getting a look in. 
 Anyway this is what I`ve been playing with. This is not the final product ,but merely a tester to see how it looks. I need to darken the road in the background for a start. Sorry about the fuzzy first pic, but it`s just a reference to show where parts are sited



  I like the concept of this, especially with people in the background. I took the pic of the stone cottages last year in Castle Combe. This angle is not the best....the next lot are better.




  This angle is better




 Unfortunately the wall is not completely smooth, so we have a textured sky.







  So there you go.....with the right amount of fiddling and blending and adjusting, it will work out quite well I think.
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The perspective looks good Gormo.

The only problem with including people is your restricting the time period because of the style of dress and in this case it's summer as they're wearing shorts.

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Very true indeed Ed,
 But this is just a test run and I`m sure there must be a way to insert people who are dressed to suit the period.
 Now let me see??????.....where did I put those little people.?????
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Talk to Marty, I'm sure he's got a secret army of 2mm people that build scenery for him :mutley


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I like the look of that, only thing that would seem to be awkward is going to be matching the colours of the roads and blending in kerbs, have fun!



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Excellent start Gormo and an excellent idea. :thumbs

These "how do I blend something into the backscene so it looks 3D" problems are with us all.  It does of course, depend on the area you're modelling - Castle Combe wouldn't suit the "mucky pennine are" I'm modelling but the idea is great. :pathead Some cotton/woollen  mills on each side of a dark cobbled road would do me .................:roll::roll::roll:  Those "dark satanic mills" so often remembered ..............;-)




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G`day Folks,

  Just a sample of what can be done with free software and a little bit of effort.

  The original photograph 



 Now ,minus the people, and with a new road and pavement colour




  A 1/76th scale figure that could be cut and pasted into either of the above.




  But hey !!!!......lets make him a bit more life like




  And why not put him and some of his brothers into a scene



 Pictures can tell terrible lies these days.
  Well I hope you all have had a good laugh :mutley:mutley:mutley

:cheers  Gormo   :chicken:chicken:chicken:chicken



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How did you recolour the roadway? Program? Small Tutorial (...Pleeze...)?
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And where did the little people go ? ................:shock::shock::shock::shock:

Superb Gormo. :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

Looking forward to the tutorial ........;-)



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G`day Folks,
  I`m off to visit my dear mother and sister for the day but I`ll respond properly tonight. In the meantime, Trevor, the program was Photofiltre ( The older version ) and Peter, I think the little people must have gone back to Marty. They probably had to do some work on his railway????.....Who knows??????

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Hi Gormo,

I know yesterday we were chatting about family history, but I didn't realise there is a little town known as Vale O'Gormo !:mutley Your brothers are a striking resemblance with quite a similar dress sense too...!

It was good having a catch up yesterday.

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Made me chuckle, first thing on a Sunday morning :mutley

Well done, just shows what can be done without spending mega-bucks on famous name software  :thumbs


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Hi Gormo,

The back scene is great. I think the road colouring is bang on. The perspective has worked in wonderfully.

These little people look very mischievous though.:mutley

Great stuff

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Although it might not be my "thing" I recognise talent when I see it, Gormo.

What you're doing is going to add a new dimension to peoples' layouts.

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Very clever Gormo, your gents even change from left handed to right handed.    Be good if you good teach a thicko such as me to do this.    Just as an aside  We have natural textured sky at times ,  they are usually modelling days .:mutley



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G`day Folks,
  Thanks for the comments......I`m glad you like the way it`s going. I must point out that I am still finding the limits of what`s possible and I`m still honing my skills with the software. I am by no means an expert, I have just learned this software by trying things.....experimenting and playing about until I understand a particular function. I would recommend this to any of you. Get a picture you would like to play about with, and try any settings or functions you like with whatever image software you might have, and see what happens. As long as you don`t save the changes to the original file / image....there`s no harm done. You will quickly build up your knowledge and understanding of how your particular software works and also you will realize what may be possible.
  Anyway I am using Photofiltre 6.5.1 and 7.1.2 ,side by side in some cases, to get the results I want. I am most familiar with the older 6.5.1 and prefer it, although 7.1.2 has added functions which are used from time to time. I find the newer version a bit bogged down by extra functions and does not flow as well as the older. This is just my personal preference.....others may prefer the reverse.?
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Warning!! when downloading software you may be asked if you wish to install the Ask Toolbar and also other items. I would recommend you skip or decline or cancel those items and just carry on to the Photofiltre selection.
   Photofiltre 6.5.1 does not appear to be available on the above site. Anyone wanting a copy can PM me.

  
  Right!!!!......firstly to remove the people from my image I used the clone tool. The clone tool can replicate the area near the part you wish to hide and transfer it over the top of that part. The radius of the area to be copied is adjustable. Usually between 5 and 10 gives a good result. If you select fixed radius it simply copies the same area over and over and does not blend into the surrounds as well. To get very precise results with any of the functions, I would suggest you enlarge the picture by simply rolling your mouse wheel backwards. Roll it forward to make it smaller. This can help greatly, and when the pic is returned to normal size again the results will be far better and changes less obvious.

 To activate the clone, left click on the clone symbol.Move the cursor cross hairs over the part you wish to copy and then press and hold the control key. A little white clone symbol will appear.Then, while still holding down the control key, left click the mouse. Then release the control key. Move the cursor over the part you wish to cover and start clicking. It will take some practice but it is not too difficult. You may have to reset the clone area as you move along because it may track into areas you don`t wish to copy




  To change the colour of the road first of all you need to select the area you wish to change. Again, enlarge the photo with the mouse. It makes the process much easier but you must be methodical and patient.To select the area, left click on the arrow shown below and then left click on the Polygon shape. I find the polygon good for irregular shapes.

 

  Now left click on the point where you wish to start, and then start dragging a line along the edge of the area. If you are following an irregular or curved line you can left click on the mouse to stop and restart the selection line ,in effect doing a number of short lines to negotiate the area. An example would be like laying a course of bricks around a curve. The overall effect looks like a curve even though it`s a series of short straight lines.

  Bear in mind that you are going to have to complete a circuit of the object / area in order to completely select it. With the photo enlarged ,you will possibly eventually reach the edge of the screen and then need to continue further. If this is the case ,then simply use the mouse to select the scroll bars on the side or bottom of the screen to reveal more area. This will not cancel the area selection process but will just allow you to carry on. 

 

    Once you have circumnavigated the object / area and returned to your starting point, the last line you are dragging should automatically connect to the starting point when you get quite close to it. When this happens , left click once more and your selected area will be highlighted as a series of moving dashed lines. If  the line has not connected properly, and the dashed lines do not appear, hit the enter key and this will force the line to connect.

   Now the method I have used to achieve a grey road is simple. Click on Filter at the top of the screen, scroll down to Color then to Grayscale .




  Left click on Grayscale and the area will turn grey. In the example below, the people have not been removed and consequently those with parts of their person in the selection area, have had those parts turned grey as well. The software will colour what ever is in the area.

  

   To colour other areas, follow the same sort of process again.

 When you`ve finished, save the file / image as a new or separate one from the original ,as you may wish to retain the original or indeed revisit the project with fresh ideas. 
   I should point out too that whilst an area is selected, a number of factors can be changed, including brightness, contrast, hue, colour etc. and those factors will only effect that selected area. There are so many possibilities that can be covered but the subject is a bit too large to go into much detail here.
  I hope this info helps and I hope it is clear and concise. I am too close to this software and I take things for granted and I may not have explained it properly.

  Any queeries.....don`t hesitate to ask and I will do my best to help. Alternatively Photofiltre has a help file included in the software package.
  :cheersGormo



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Exelent how to Gormo thanks for that. Think once the wet weather returns and the wife takes off the gardening / decorating chains I'll have a go...one related guest I on , the software you mention you say about using 2 versions ? Now when ever I install a new version of anything it normally deletes the older version.. How do you get round that ?  Does it give you a choice ? Must admit I've never looked !
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G`day Matt,
   The simple answer to your question is......don`t know????
   I had the older version of Photofiltre installed and working on my system. Lately I`ve been trying all sorts of image manipulation software to see if I could improve on what I had. I decided to revisit the Photofiltre web site to see what was happening there. I saw the new version and thought that it would be worth a go. I downloaded it. Installed it. No messages came up about previous versions as usually happens. I clicked on the short cut for the program and the old version opened. I went into the directory and found the new version, clicked on that and it opened. Then I found I could open both of them at the same time, side by side or one over the top of the other.........bonus!!!
  I don`t how it works or why it works.......but I like it!!!
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