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 Posted: Mon Jun 16th, 2014 01:15 pm
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Hi everyone,

I have seen a lot of posts on the forum by people who may be struggling to get images inserted into their posts. I’ve put together this brief tutorial which hopefully will be useful in the future. I’ve tried to cover as much as possible at a basic level, so some of it will be familiar and obvious to some people. It’s also not the “only way” to do any of this, but it’s a way that works well for me.

Servers

When you take a photo on a digital camera, it saves a file to the camera’s memory card. You move this file off your card and onto your computer’s hard disk where you can then view and edit the picture. Nobody else can see the picture though as they don’t have access to your computer to see it. To enable anyone else to see the picture, it has to be uploaded to the server which hosts the forum. This is just a big computer somewhere “in the cloud” which we all access when using the forum. So the first step in getting an image into a post is to upload it to the forum. This is just another way of saying “copy from my computer to the forum’s computer”. Once uploaded to the server, it can be inserted into your post and we will all be able to see it.

Browsers

You will often be asked “what browser are you using”. A browser is just the program on your computer that you use to access the web on the Internet. There are five major types of browser, and you’re most likely to be using one of these, and should recognise the icon that you click to access the internet:



In order, these are:

Google Chrome

Firefox

Microsoft Internet Explorer

Opera

Safari

It shouldn’t matter which browser you’re using, but sometimes, Internet Explorer does not “play nice” and you need to take some additional steps to get images working. I’ve explained this below.

So if you’re using Internet Explorer, please skip to the end, follow the steps entitled “Internet Explorer Compatibility View”, and come back here.

Pixels

A computer screen is made up of millions of little squares called pixels. The same is true of a picture that is displayed on a screen. Here is an example of a picture zoomed in so that you can see the individual pixels:




 
Modern digital cameras take very detailed, crisp, pictures. To do this, they use a lot of pixels. My mobile phone for example markets itself as 8.7 “megapixel”. A basic, £50 Panasonic Lumix is 14.1 megapixel, and a top-of-the-range Canon 5D mk III is 22.3 megapixel.

A “megapixel” is a million pixels. A picture taken at 8.7 megapixels would generally be around 3400 pixels wide. At 22.3, it would be 5700.

The more pixels you have, the larger the size of the photo file on your disk/memory card, the more space it takes up, and the longer it takes to upload to the website.

The width of the forum’s pages depends on the resolution of your computer screen, but generally, 800 pixels is wide enough:

 



So there is no need to upload pictures any wider than 800 pixels. Any picture larger than this will take longer to upload, will take up more space on the website (and will end up costing more). Really large pictures may not even upload at all. Over a slow internet connection, the server will “timeout” and stop the upload partway through and you will end up looking at an endlessly-spinning circle.

It’s a good idea therefore to resize your picture before you upload it.

There are many different ways to resize a picture. One of the best ways is to use the program “Paint” which is a standard part of Microsoft Windows. If you can’t find it, just click ‘Start’ and type “Paint” in the box.  Then click the Paint icon at the top.




Open your photo in Paint and then use the “Resize” button:




Then just click “Pixels”, type “800” into the “Horizontal” box. Click “OK” and then save your picture. You may want to give it a new name by using “Save As” so that you don’t resize your original picture if you want to keep it or print it at a later date.



Uploading Photos

There are a couple of ways of uploading photos. The first is through your own photo gallery. You can access this from the front screen of the forum, using the blue “My Photos” link which I have circled in red below:





This will open your own photo gallery that contains all the pictures you’ve uploaded to the forum:



I have circled the “Upload Photos” link that you can use to upload photos to your gallery. This will allow you to upload up to five pictures at once:



Just use the “Browse” button to select the photo from your computer, type a caption if you want, and then press “Upload”. Your picture will upload to the forum and will be visible in your gallery.

All the photos in your gallery can be added to forum posts, and the rest of this tutorial will show you how.

Adding a picture to a post

You can add any of your pictures to your posts when you are in the full edit/reply view. It is not possible to add a picture if you are using the “Quick Reply” box that looks like this:

 


Uploading a picture at the time of writing

You can also upload a picture while you’re typing. Once you get to the part of the text where you want to upload a new picture, press enter so that your cursor is on a new line, and just click the “Upload new photo fir insertion” button:



This will open a new upload window. Use the “Browse…” button to select your picture, and the “Upload Photo” one to send the picture up to the forum.




Once uploaded, you will see it in your gallery. Just then click on the picture to insert it into your post - anywhere where I've circled would be fine.




Like this:




If you are adding more than one picture, be sure to press enter a couple of times after the picture so that the pictures flow nicely down the screen.

Adding an existing picture

When you are typing a post on the forum, you will see the “Insert Existing Photo” button. This lets you insert a photo from your gallery.




Press it to see a view of your gallery:




Simply click on the photo that you want to insert. Somewhere within the area I have circled will be fine.

As soon as you click it, the gallery will close and you will see your picture in the post:




If you are adding more than one picture, be sure to press enter a couple of times after the picture so that the pictures flow nicely down the screen.

That’s it!

That’s all there is to it. If you’re using Internet Explorer though, then please read on…

Internet Explorer

Internet Explorer sometimes struggles with some of the above. It’s to do with the historical way that this browser was developed in a non-standard way, and the way that some older websites themselves were developed to take advantage of Internet Explorer’s non-standard way of doing things.

You may see the post screen look like this in Internet Explorer, with all of its buttons jumbled up:





You can fix this, and make Internet Explorer “play nice” by following these steps:

With Internet Explorer open and active, press the “Alt” key which is next to your spacebar on the left. This will open up a little menu like this:




Press the “Tools” option and then click “Compatibility View Settings”:



This opens another window like this:




If you were already on the forum when you started this process, then the address will already be in the “Add this website” box. If it is not, then just type it in. Press the “Add” button and then “Close” and the forum will look right, and you will no longer have any problems uploading any pictures.


 



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Good One Mike,
                     Advice has been offered in the past to help people with upload issues but your tutorial has actually nailed the subject quite clearly and concisely.
                   Well done :doublethumb  :doublethumb  :doublethumb  :doublethumb  

:cheers   Gormo



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Thank you for doing that Mike,i could never explain it in that way.I'm sure that will be a great help to a lot of members.I'm also going to make it an important topic so it will stay at the top of the recent posts section.



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emmess wrote:There are many different ways to resize a picture.

YMRC has its own picture editor to prepare your photos for uploading. Click here on the front page:



For instructions on how to use it, see here:

 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/86885-putting-a-photo-on-rmweb/#entry1482354

Ignore the first part. Start at "Here's how to use it".

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I like to resize my photos before I upload them.  There is a bit of loss in the resizing, so I use one step of sharpening to improve it a bit.



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I only seem to have problems with Explorer on two forums - this one and RMWeb.  I've set "Compatibility View" for both so we'll see if there's any improvement.

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Hey, emmess someone you probably saw struggling with the pics was me :oops!
I read the whole post but and I tried to post a picture but I can not see the buttons "Upload new photo for insertion" or the "insert existing photo from Gallery" or the "insert Youtube video" buttons. have any ideas why?



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Darius, what browser are you using? IE, Firefox, Chrome or ....



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I recently discovered another issue with images.  I can upload a picture but then I have to close the window and reopen to click on "Insert existing...".  That's not the issue, I can live with that.
The issue is that if want to insert a picture that's already in my gallery I click on it and all I get is that little icon.  I can't keep uploading the same picture over and over again.  I'll be using Photobucket from now on unless there's a simple remedy.
I'm on Win 7 and the problem shows up on Chrome.
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I hate to be the broken record, John but I avoid Chrome like The Plague.

Firefox is the go.  I'm on several UltraBB forums and never have a problem.

It works well for all other forums I'm on, so it's good for me.

It's open source, so it's less likely to have any subversive parts to it as well.



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Brossard wrote: I recently discovered another issue with images.  I can upload a picture but then I have to close the window and reopen to click on "Insert existing...".  That's not the issue, I can live with that.
The issue is that if want to insert a picture that's already in my gallery I click on it and all I get is that little icon.  I can't keep uploading the same picture over and over again.  I'll be using Photobucket from now on unless there's a simple remedy.
I'm on Win 7 and the problem shows up on Chrome.
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Hi John,

Please can you explain which little icon?

Here I am on Windows 7 and Google Chrome -- the same as you. The only possible difference is that I have just checked that Chrome is updated to the latest version.

I clicked the button labelled Insert existing photo from Gallery.

A page opened showing all my uploaded pictures.

I clicked the one which I wanted.

And it appeared in my post, like this:

 

I clicked the Preview button to make sure the post is OK.

Then I clicked Send.

What are you doing differently?

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OK, there is a bug. Google Chrome will only insert an existing image if it is on the first page of your images.

I will see if I can find this and fix it.

But really, as Max explained the answer is Firefox. It is the ONLY browser which works fully according to the official international agreed HTML rules.

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Back in Firefox now, and as I expected everything works fine:



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Cheers guys, all very frustrating.  I will try Firefox next time I post.

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OK so that works.
 



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D_Will wrote: Sol, I'm using safari
Only the basic editor is available in Safari.

Display the image in the gallery and then right-click on it to get the image location.

Paste it into your post between [img].....[/img] tags.
 

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Hi jakesdad here, after much cursing and head scratching I have finaly worked out how to resize photos for the gallery. however when I try to start a new topic and insert piccys something strange happens the photo pushes the dialogue to one side also to try and put words between photos I read on another post I should click down however nothing happens? am I doing something wrong? I will insert a photo to try and show you what is happening.



just to make a fool of me the blooming thing seems to be working now.

Iwill try a third time and see what happens






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Hi Peter,the first photo looks about the right size, 800 x 600 is the preferred size,the second two look too big.The text between 1 and 2 needs enter pressed after the text which looks like what you have done between 2 and 3. You're getting there.



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Hi Alan thanks for your comments according to my computer the top photo is around 500x300 the other two 800x600? so I will have another go Pete.



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