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Currently wrestling with the track joins between the upper (Oxsea) level and the fixed board at the end of the layout which connects Oxsea with Chelford.  Soldering track to veroboard strips but having to adjust the gradients slightly on the Oxsea side of the joins to overcome bogies on the Dapol Western leaving the track on the joins and/or where there are marked (though very slight to my eyes) changes in gradient.  I think I'm winning (slowly!!).



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Well track aligned and all seems to work as it should from the upper level.  I have now painted the third Oxsea board in grey undercoat.

Now for the linking gradient towards Chelford.  I have set up the first two point motors to be installed (both numbered 56 on the diagram) but the physical installation is going to be a challenge as access underneath is rather limited!



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Point motors for points 56 and 57 now installed and working correctly.  I now know why I prefer having lifting sections!  Working upside down with just enough space to get my head under the board is not my favourite activity.  However, wiring up the Traintronics motors is very simple and can be done before installation - it's actually fixing the motors in place which becomes a challenge!  Just need to cut of the excess on the pins and file them down to tidy up the points.

Next job is to tackle the double slip (58 and 59 on the Oxsea diagram).  I had intended using Peco motors mounted directly to the underside of each end of the double slip.  The problem I have is that the wiring to control them would have to go a long way back to the far end of the Oxsea board to the SMD84 which I had intended to use at the control device for them.  I think I might install a couple of Traintronics motors instead, as I have a couple spare, as the wiring for these is much more straightforward.

Went to the Great Electric Train Show at Gaydon today and bought some scenic bits and pieces as well as some sound decoders from Digitrains.  I'm glad I went early as it was heaving by midday and difficult to move around in places.  One of my purchases was a ballasting device from Greenscene - looks so simple in John's demonstration......  reality might be a bit more difficult!!  Time will tell.



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Point motors (Traintronics) 58 and 59 installed and working on the double slip and I have now completed wiring up the power supply to the track and frogs on the fixed end board.

The Chelford side of the layout, as well as many of the accessories on the Battenham board, are powered from a separate NCE booster. I have always made sure that the rail nearest to me is connected via a red wire and the rail further away is connected via a black wire.  However, when I run a loco across the join between the two separately powered sections I get a short.  Didn't get time to investigate this further today but I'm hoping that it's a straight reversal of the wires coming from the booster supplied power (I live in hope, always relying on the problem being a user generated fault!!).  Unfortunately I won't be able to deal with this until the weekend.



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I haven't tried to resolve the power problem today but have spent part of the afternoon re-aligning the temporary position of trackwork linking the upper Oxsea level to the Chelford board to make sure it is all properly connected.  Hopefully will complete that task early next week.



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Short circuit problem resolved!  I spent some time scratching my head and looking for solutions yesterday, but today I spotted the problem straight away.  Embarrassed to admit it, but put in an electrofrog point on the Chelford section without any isolating rail joiners on the V.  Corrected that and now working correctly!!

I will now look at locating Kadee uncouplers in appropriate places as I intend using Kadees on some of the freight stock.  I'll locate these before ballasting the track.



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Don't feel bad about that John,i've done it a couple of times so join the club.Great feeling when you get it sorted though.



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Spurno wrote: Don't feel bad about that John,i've done it a couple of times so join the club.Great feeling when you get it sorted though.

Thanks Alan for the kind words but unfortunatley it doesn't take away from the fact that I have been advising for years that electrofrog points MUST have IRJs!!!

Have deferred planning location for Kadee uncouplers until I have installed some underboard lighting so that I can see whats happening on the Battenham fiddle yards until I have a more systematic approach to identifying trains that are located there.



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Finished adding LED lighting to the underside of the second Oxsea board today.  Hope to complete the third board on Monday - will add some photos then.



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Looking forward to some photo's.

You're coasting now. Keep it up.

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Thanks Toto!

Haven't had time to start lighting under board 3 today but thought I would add a couple of photos of the underside of board 2 as it is at present.



Some time ago I bought a long LED lighting strip (so long ago I can't remember where from!).  Rather than use the strip as a single unit I have split it up into a number of much smaller pieces, each with 3 LEDs which I hope you can make out in the photo above. The lights can be switched on and off independently on each board - you might be able to see the red switch at the top of the board, hidden underneath when the board is lowered. I decided to locate it here because the edge of the board is too thick (10mm) to poke the end of the switch through and secure it with the supplied hardware - the cross members are made of only 3mm material.



Here the LEDs are switched on, but the flash from the camera has rather taken away from the illumination provided by the LEDs, so the following photo was taken without the use of the flash.




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Hi John,

It looks very good . It also looks incredibly neat. I wish I could say the same for mine.

The sub baseboard lighting idea could find itself stolen. A great idea. Excuse my shameful weakness,........ Or at least one of them. I'll look forward to following what you are up to next.

Don't keep it a secret ......... I'm a bit sparse on the idea's front. :mutley

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:)Hi John,Your railway is coming on a treat.

I do like that wireing and those neat panels.

Following with great interest.

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Many thanks for the supportive comments, guys. Much appreciated.   However, the cable/wiring isn't as tidy as I would really like it to be.  I have got through a large number of small cable ties and also found the self adhesive cable clamps from Maplins extremely useful and easy to use.

I have still been pondering what material to use for the mimic boards I plan to have.  I'm thinking that one of thin steel for the Battenham area would be ideal as I could then use magnetic strips with a reusable white surface to identify exactly what loco/stock was occupying an individual track.

Must start the underboard lighting for the third board today or tomorrow.



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Hi John

How about magnetic white boards, you would just need to be able to cut them down to the size you wanted.

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Thanks Paul.  I had been looking at different types of board last evening but it doesn't say how thick they are.  It must'nt be any more than 1.5mm thick.  Need A3 size.

Completed lighting under the third board this pm.  Discovered that the LEDs I am using are from Rapid Electronics, part no. 56-0480  Flexible LED strip 30-way white RC.



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Hi John

how about these for a starter

https://www.officefurnitureonline.co.uk/display-presentation-furniture/whiteboards-and-accessories/childrens-whiteboards/handheld-whiteboards/rainbow-framed-show-n-tell-laptop-whiteboards.html

Not sure of the thickness, but if they are being handed out to kids, A3 size would be too heavy at 1.5mm thick

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Hi Paul

Mmmmm..... that's similar to what I had been looking at but thickness and weight is an issue as they will mounted on a wall.  They also need to be hinged so that I can get at the electronics which will sit behind (and in) them.  I did come across a brushed stainless steel sheet which was 0.9mm thick in A3 size and reasonably cheap.

Will explore that alternatives when I can find a moment.  This retirement lark certainly keeps you busy!



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This afternoon I have added an additional support under the gradient which connects Oxsea to Chelford.  Very difficult to get at with junk and cupboards in the way but eventually managed it.

Also started to insert some of the Kadee 308 uncouplers I have.  The first one went by the goods shed at Oxsea.  Having laid the track on the DCC Concepts underlay it was quite easy fitting the uncoupler - just needed to mark out the edges at the ends of the sleepers, cut with a Stanley knife and then use scissors to cut across from one side to the other once the track had been lifted a little.  The rectangle was then removed and the uncoupling magnet placed in the vacant space in the underlay.  In order to keep the track at the right level the steel plate under the magnet was removed.  Haven't had time to test it yet as I had to readjust the track levels a little where the boards join.



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Well I had to replace the metal plate under the magnet as it didn't work without it.  Have now installed another couple of Kadee uner the track 308 uncouplers.



This shows the plate sitting under the track in the area of removed trackbed.  Joins and edges will disappear once ballast has been applied.



Apologies for the out of focus coupling!  I think you can just about see that the couplings have moved apart and are ready for uncoupling.  It does take a few moves backwards and forwards to achieve this but on speed step 1 (of 128) the movement isn't really too noticeable.



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