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Indeed!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Many years ago John Forsyth of TCS came and stayed with us when he was trying to publicise his brand in the UK.  On one occasion he came with us to the Warley show to demonstrate his expanding range of loco decoders.  Whilst he was here we had many discussions about decoders (some of which  resulted in TCS producing UK versions of their decoders and harnesses) and also DCC control systems.

Well I have just come across this video of the DCC control system which TCS are hoping to bring to market next year (2018)...........

https://www.facebook.com/tcsdcc/videos/1535736959845737/




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A Very Merry Christmas to anyone reading this thread today.  I hope that Father Christmas managed to supply your modelling wishes.



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Hi John   Merry Christmas to you.  I am my own “Father Christmas” ? And have been filling my lumpy Christmas stocking throughout the year. Ho Ho Ho.   Kevin.     PS.    think of Christ? or Christmas and think of my surname .



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It has been a few weeks since I posted any updates, so apologies for that.  I did little last week as I was felled by a stomach bug on the Monday and it took a few days to recover, and this week I have been away in the caravan to Bristol.  Whilst there, the weather being rather damp, my wife and I went to Model Railways Direct in Portishead. It was a devil of a job to find (we drove past it once, apparently!) in a rabbit warren of a housing estate but once there I was mightily impressed with the small shop.  It has to be the tidiest model shop I have ever been in with products well displayed in product type and I had quite a long chat with the owner - well worth a visit if you are down that way (and can find it!).

I have been doing some more point motor installation on the Chelford boards over the last few weeks, but progress has been slow, mainly because I have tended to spend short periods of time in the shed both as a result of the weather and also I have been getting backache bending over and under the layout.  Today I managed to install a couple of Cobalt IP motors, which went suprisingly well.  I have discovered that the sticky Cobalt pads which DCC Concepts sell work very well with their point motors but not so well with Tortoise motors which are much heavier so don't stick permanently to the underside of the board.  Next week I will probably try to wrestle with getting the Tortoises in the right position to switch the point blades correctly and stick them with the pads and then with a lot of contortion try to fix them permanently with screws.

I have also installed a couple of DCC Concepts buffer stops on two of the sidings at Chelford.  I thought these were going to be straightforward and the first one certainly was but the second one was a nightmare as I had so much difficulty soldering the very fine wire to the required 1K resistor.  Eventually got that sorted.

I have also taken delivery of some of the new ground signals from DCC Concepts.  In theory (and according to the instructions) these should be a doddle to install.  They are designed to work with a Mimic Display Control Board which came supplied in the pack with 12 signals. Now I have used Mimic Display Control Boards before, as detailed elsewhere in this thread, but never expected them to be used for this purpose.  I would have expected the signals to have been designed to work in conjunction with point motors and this was what I was hoping would be possible.  A diagram has eventually appeared on the DCC Concepts website which shows how this might be possible but it isn't as straightforward as I expected.  So, I have found a solution which will work using Mimic Display Red/Green LEDs which I already have.  The pack I purchased also contained 3 Y-connector boards, so connecting one of these to the Mimic Display Control Board on the input side of the connector and a signal and a LED on the two outputs does (almost) achieve the right display on both signal and LED.  The only trouble is that the two outputs are reversed, so the LED shows red when it should be green.  The way round this is to connect the LED display to the alternative output from the MDCB (there are two outputs, one for each position of the point). 

Having discovered a solution to the problem I am now faced with the issue of Y-connectors.  Although 3 are supplied in the pack these connectors are NOT available as spares (can you believe it??!) and I need a lot more.  So I purchased some other packs of 2-pin splitter boards which are available but NONE of them work correctly to produce the desired outcome. Tomorrow I will be back on the phone to DCC Concepts to see what can be done to resolve this ridiculous situation.

One other issue I have had with the pack is the drill bit it comes with.  The bit is designed to drill a hole into which the elongated tube protruding from the ground signal will fit snugly into the baseboard.  Fine in theory but once drilled it is impossible to get the wiring from the signal into the hole as the 2-pin connector attached to the signal wiring is too big to fit through the hole!



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For those who might be interested I have temporarily put a video of the ground signal/splitter boards problem on our website at https://clarahost.clara.net/www.bromsgrovemodels.co.uk/dcc_concepts_manuals.htm



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Hi John. Very interesting , I don’t want to put the dampener on this thread, but , are the position light signals over sized for OO gauge?    Best wishes. Kevin



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Mmmmm.......  I did think that when I first unpacked them.  They are certainly larger than other ground signals I have on other parts of the layout.  I also commented on this to someone on another forum but they didn't think the signals were too large.



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 Hi John.  Thank you for your reply , I didn’t want to appear rude . I was only going from memory. and of course I don’t know the size of your thumb, but I was guessing about one to two foot high (4 to 8 mm) .Best wishes   Kevin



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BromsMods wrote: For those who might be interested I have temporarily put a video of the ground signal/splitter boards problem on our website at https://clarahost.clara.net/www.bromsgrovemodels.co.uk/dcc_concepts_manuals.htm

John, the video stops & starts in both IE & Firefox.



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Sol wrote: BromsMods wrote: For those who might be interested I have temporarily put a video of the ground signal/splitter boards problem on our website at https://clarahost.clara.net/www.bromsgrovemodels.co.uk/dcc_concepts_manuals.htm

John, the video stops & starts in both IE & Firefox.

I think that suggests something to do with the download speed.  I've just run it on my iPad using Safari and it runs straight through. I have also run it using Firefox without any issues. Have you tried just downloading the video and then running it?



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John, downloading and saving it to see how things go but I have seen other larger videos without that problem.
Currently my normal download speed is 21.2Mbps

but that video is downloading at 56 Kbps.



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OK  now viewed the video. It does seem that having different LEDs connected , one set of LEDs uses all the power...
Did you send that video to DCC Concepts?



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Yep, that's why I put it there for Richard to see.  He came up with the same conclusion, that you can't mix products on any of the multiple output splitter boards.  But that isn't quite true as the Y-splitter (provided in the initial pack) allows both signal and mimic LEDs to display, and the problem is that these boards aren't available as spares!

I have now removed the link to the video.



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One other thing I did a few weeks ago was purchase a Tam Valley Hex Frog Juicer from Digitrains and that is now installed and working.  I don't want to start another argument about whether these are valid electrical devices for model railway layouts (there have been plenty of those on other forums) but I think HFJ are brilliant and do the job they were designed for (resolving short circuits on live frog points) with a minimum of soldering.  Unfortunately I didn't keep any from when I was running the business, so had to purchase said device!



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Hi John.   I wouldn’t dare argue, besides I don’t know what they do. Having said that, my wiring started out very tidy until I added the extra wiring  to avoid stalling ? now it looks a complete mess, more so than that behind the tellyBest wishes. Kevin



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Passed Driver wrote: Hi John.   I wouldn’t dare argue, besides I don’t know what they do. Having said that, my wiring started out very tidy until I added the extra wiring  to avoid stalling ? now it looks a complete mess, more so than that behind the tellyBest wishes. Kevin

You haven't seen under the Chelford board!!!



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Hi John.   Considering the fact that my Shunting Puzzles only mseaure 4 ft x 9 inches and 4 ft x 14 inches respectively . You would be surprised , just like a Swan, calm on top or the baseboard , and Bedlam below .Best wishes Kevin 



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Well I have managed to start work on the Chelford platforms, installed a couple more Cobalt point motors (with two being replaced by DCC Concepts after they failed to respond to any commands) and a couple more ground signals and done some more ballasting.

An update on the ground signals - after a few emails with DCC Concepts and their own testing of various connector boards they kindly sent me some of the Y-connectors even though they said that they hadn't intended to make these available as spares.  However, it now seems they have realised that if customers want to use the Mimic Control Board to control both ground signals and mimic LEDs they will have to make these available, so the Y-connectors are now available on their website!!  One thing I did find  rather surprising during our exchanges was that, although used for both Mimic Panels and Ground Signals, the Mimic Control Board was never intended to be used for both purposes simultaneously!!



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I haven't managed to get into the shed very much over the last few weeks, what with rain, wind and snow and for the last week a cold/virus from hell, which has left me constantly coughing.

Work has continued on ballasting and yesterday I used the Rusty Rails painter on most of the track on the Chelford station area and sidings.

A few days ago I received........



The main reason for purchasing these was to replace the tyres on the Lima 3-car DMU I have, where the tyres had literally falled off!  This is a very old model and the rubber tyres had clearly perished and stretched so much that they were just hanging loose.  This morning I replaced them with new tyres and managed to oil the mechanism linking the motor to the axles.




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