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 Posted: Thu Jan 23rd, 2014 10:56 am
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A change of pace.........the charm of this hobby

The LMS shed on Granby is almost done so I need people to populate it, Engine crew for some new locos and while I am at it......some porters for the Station









I use Artists acrylics.......Humbrol enamel are more durable and I think you can getter better shades......but the big advantage of Acrylics (apart from no fumes) is they are so quick drying.......hopefully this batch 20+ figures will be done by tomorrow

I do struggle with the gloss you get.....I have added dull cote to my Navy and Denim mix this time......hopefully that will subdue the sheen somewhat



Corks make great temporary mounts......fortunately in our house it is not too difficult to accumulate them

 Its mostly Chateau Plonk although Single Malt are probably the best.....tapered top and smooth stable base!

Here are a few out of focus but still cruel closeups of work in progress



Heres a very familiar figure from the Airfix/Dapol range......they have been around for so long they are almost a cliche but they are a very very inexpensive way of getting lots of realistic figures..........less than 20p a figure?

I guess the downside is that they are so instantly recognizable...... I have recently been buying Monty's Models from Springside. They are white metal and cost a little over a Pound a figure

They are not as well engraved as Dapol but there is much more variety and, to me, they have a certain folksy charm
 
Heres a random (unfinished) trio



The leaning guy (the one in focus) will be perfect for my recently acquired LH drive LMS 4F...........you can also get Right leaning as well.

A digression....I got a GWR video for Christmas. It contained interviews with Loco drivers from the age of steam....... in 1947 they had to give up their GWR caps with cloth tops for LMS caps with shiny tops........still rankled 60 years later!



This driver needs a tie adding and touching up.....havent decided whether he gets to keep his shiny top yet!




Touch of whimsy......I think he will finish sitting on one of the seats in the Star




Finally a shunter for the carriage sidings






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Fantastic little figures John, well done. This is something I have not yet mastered. Do you paint under a magnifying glass for the small detail, ie ties etc ?

Cheers, Gary.



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Hi John,

Superb figures. Where did you source these from ?

They look fantastic and a good variety of poses.

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Superbly painted John.That must of been one hell of a hangover.:cheers



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Excellent job John. :thumbs:thumbs

Something else I have yet to tackle in earnest - thinking about it, I've yet to tackle almost everything "in earnest" !!!

Do you paint them all black first ?  I seem to recall Novice had a system of black undercoating to create shadow. :roll:

I have found that the quick drying properties of acrylics can be a disadvantage - you don't have much time to "get it right" before it dries and can't then be washed off .....................:hmm

I do like the poses - I'll have to examine Monty's Models.

p.s. I also like the single malt stands - I need about 100 .........................:cheers:cheers




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Nice work John. :thumbs

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Thanks for the comments guys.....glad you found it interesting....I hoped the cork mounts would amuse


Gary wrote:
Fantastic little figures John, well done. This is something I have not yet mastered. Do you paint under a magnifying glass for the small detail, ie ties etc ?

Cheers, Gary.

Thanks Gary.....you can see the Magnifier in the first shot......its adjustable so with the mount I can just lay the figure on the table top and its more or less always in focus. The accuracy of the painting rather depends on the quality of the moulded figure.....if its good you can just ever so gently pass the brush over the figure and a raised/separated detail like a tie will collect the paint

toto wrote: Hi John,

Superb figures. Where did you source these from ?


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Most are from Monty's Models who are now owned by Springside.........but for quick inexpensive.....rent a crowd... the Dapol ex Airfix figures take a lot of beating

Spurno wrote: Superbly painted John.That must of been one hell of a hangover.:cheers

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Do you paint them all black first ?  I seem to recall Novice had a system of black undercoating to create shadow. :roll:

I have found that the quick drying properties of acrylics can be a disadvantage - you don't have much time to "get it right" before it dries and can't then be washed off .....................:hmm



I think some form of undercoat is important. I have tried a couple of batches with black but this time I used some quite thin grey wagon paint.....its not acrylic and adheres better and it runs into all the crevices and creases without clogging them......you can see the effect on the Dapol guy........I am pleased with the result...... it has provided a very stable surface for the top coat and if you miss a bit it is less obvious than black!

The quick drying can be a mixed blessing.....the beauty of doing a batch means you can mix a reasonable quantity and just bounce back and forth doing Navy
 
col.stephens wrote: Nice work John. :thumbs

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Thanks Terry glad you like it



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John Dew wrote: .......................................................................
I think some form of undercoat is important. I have tried a couple of batches with black but this time I used some quite thin grey wagon paint.....its not acrylic and adheres better and it runs into all the crevices and creases without clogging them............................................................

Not acrylic John ?

Is it enamel ?  I can never remember which way round you can go - enamel over acrylic or visa versa ...................:roll::roll::roll:

I do know it doesn't work one way or the other ...............:hmm



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Hello,
not tried doing this yet I am going to need a BIG magnifying glass...
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Petermac wrote: John Dew wrote: .......................................................................
I think some form of undercoat is important. I have tried a couple of batches with black but this time I used some quite thin grey wagon paint.....its not acrylic and adheres better and it runs into all the crevices and creases without clogging them............................................................

Not acrylic John ?

Is it enamel ?  I can never remember which way round you can go - enamel over acrylic or visa versa ...................:roll::roll::roll:

I do know it doesn't work one way or the other ...............:hmm

Its a North American product.....there is some form of solvent that evaporates although (fortunately) its water clean up.......I will check if I can still read the label!

I paint acrylic over enamel ok.



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Well for once I met a self imposed deadline........at close of play last night I had 28 figures already to go to work on Granby

Here is the Dapol driver that you saw undercoated in the first shot



I bought a few sprues so I have four of these.....I am not as skilled as Bob (Novice) in chopping arms off but it is easy to carve off the lunch/tool box and then they can be used on the footplate


This guy is a Fireman and normally comes with a shovel but I am using him on the Engine shed about to open a door





I know these shots are magnified N times but I still wince when I see bits that I have missed.

Its a bit of a judgement call determining what level to aim for......there comes a moment when you have to say enough is enough.....where further attempts at touching up only make it worse

I do feel when I am using a pair of tweezers to insert a figure into an enclosed cab that maybe I neednt have worried about painting his shoes!  However Murphys law will then kick in and you take a great shot of a loco blow it up and the driver has a blue face :oops:


Here is the leaning out guy finished



 
Not sure about the "badge" its an overlarge dab of silver paint......I do recall footplatemen having union bages in the side of their caps............I need to check some photos



This is another Monty's model with an adjustable arm...........I am always a bit dubious about "action" figures frozen in time.

He is going on the LMS yard and generally there will always be a loco stabled on one side or the other



This is one of my favourite figures.....perfect for a shed cameo. I spent a happy 5 minutes trying to replicate that soiled but previously blancoed small pack that Taffy "liberated" when he got demobbed from the Royal Welch Fusiliers



Finally some Station Staff



You will see this guy has lost his white shirt sleeves. I did think they were rather impractical.

 I was googling to try and find what the buttons should be (Brass for GWR and Chrome for LMS) when I stumbled on a thread started by Doug (Dooferdog).

Apparently Porters,Signalmen etc were issued with sleeved waistcoats.....the front was navy serge and the back and sleeves a shiny, almost black, canvassy material..........sure made painting easier.

I also found out about ties......the issue of red ties for possible use as an emergency warning flag is apparently an urban myth.
Staff had to supply their own.

Another of the charms of the hobby.....I love all this minutae....I can rest happy 60 years after the event, thousands of miles away in Canada.....secure in the knowledge my ties are the right (random) colour


Heres another Porter (with his personal red tie).....he will eventually be pushing a sack truck



Finally a Dapol Guard



So today I can get some of these guys in position on the LMS shed and in some unmanned locos



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Hi John,

These figures are really good. Even with an illuminated magnifying lamp it must play havoc on your eyes. Jackets, yes, trousers, yes, boots, yes, ties and faces not with y eyes.

The first picture showing your work bench would make an excellent jigsaw. Plenty of interest and the lighting is excellent as well.

Cheers for now

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Hi John,

I totally missed the magnifier in the first pic. I must have been checking out how organised your work bench is...;-);-) Still, the little people would still require quite a patient/steady hand, even when using the magnifier.

Cheers, Gary.



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Gary wrote: Hi John,

   I must have been checking out how organised your work bench is...;-);-)
Cheers, Gary.


It was tidied specially for the  shoot:mutley:mutley



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It is great to see some well painted figures as well as a bit of conversion work. They look super John and will be even better when they are on the layout.

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Thats very kind of you........neither painting or the few conversions are to your standard Bob..........but thank you nevertheless

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Nice one John

I have a couple of packs of Dapol figures for you to practice on :cool wink, BR colours circa late 50's......

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