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 Posted: Sat Dec 14th, 2013 04:21 pm
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:newHello everyone when I was a youngster there was a very simple way of changing points without using point motors. we used an elastic band on one arm of the point to have tension so that when the point was released in the other direction it sprang back, I think we used Fishing line with a point lever at the other end but I am not sure. Can anyone help to jog my memory, I would rather not use point motors.

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With Peco points I use the "Wire in tube" method for nearly all my points, exception being ones that are either a long way from the control position or awkwardly placed.



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Wire in tube works extremely well but it's not suitable for points you can't reach. :???:

That's where motors come into their own.

Additionally, for a total "hands free" operation, there's no alternative to motors - at least, not that I know of. :roll:



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I agree with Petermac. Wire n the tube is the best if the point is not too far from the front of the layout. Check out the pics on my Forum called Trevennan.  There is an explanation there as well.

 

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Well wire and tube operation is more authentic than point motors for older style railways.
Thats what they had signal men for pulling lever,s.
I remember the elastic band system though not the details Mildud, Sorry.
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Hi Colin,i don't use wire in tube but longer distances can be done using bell cranks to change direction.One of our members uses tile spacers for these.Sounds like a case for trial and error.Good luck.



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Thanks everyone, yes there arent mant points on Mildud so I am going to experiment with elastic bands, straws and levers returned with elastic bands could be interesting if it works or a total waste of time ha ha..keep you all informed, now I must take some pictures of Mildud so far.....



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You must be an avid "Blue Peter"  fan Colin ..................:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



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Hi Mildud,

Let us know how you get on and yes, get some pictures going.

Cheers for now.

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Hi Colin,

Maybe you can hook up a few of these old Hornby switches, which are already spring loaded for operating your points.



You could connect a brass rod to the throw lever in side and poke through the narrow side (where holes are shown). A fexible wire (push bike brake cabling) could be soldered to the protruding rod and run to the required point. Again, once the wire reaches the point, another brass rod (bent at 90*) soldered to the end would be needed, to throw the tie bar.

Cheers, Gary.



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Have a look at my posting:-  

"An inexpensive and simple method for Manual Point Control. - Layout Design, Trackwork & Operation. - Getting You Started. - Your Model Railway Club"

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Hello Gary

Great idea many thanks, I was thinking of using smaill lollypop sticks ( I have a load) in a cut out plastic box on a centre pivit, in a plastic box with a lid so that if one of the small elastic bands snaps it can be easily replaced, I've got this idea in my head and I can't shake it Ha Ha...... I think I am returning to my childhood when I used to make do with odds and ends I found in the garden shed, no car then!!

 

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