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 Posted: Sat Dec 7th, 2013 02:58 am
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You may think it's filthy John but it looks the part. :thumbs:thumbs

I admire your tenacity - I know I'd have given up as soon as I tried to read what instructions they provided ............:oops::oops:



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Instructions?  The body kit does have some but they don't provide much detail as to how things go together - that's for the modeller to find out.  O' course I've made a rod for my own back by going EM and springing - very much off the reservation.

I do like a challenge, but it does make my brain hurt.  I can't give up now, after all the fuss.

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Bit of a sweat there John.
Putting those white metal jobs together can be tough enough in 00 let alone EM.
Well Done.
I am still pondering on that chassis/Footplate fixing question. Wonder if something was left out of the kit or the design. Would not be the first time with these Gem kits.

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Yes Derek, should be straightforward from here, fingers crossed. 

As is the case with so many legacy kits (although the chassis is very modern so I can't understand the problem with the body fixing), experience and knowledge of the prototype counts for a lot.  Not that my knowledge is vast but I do have Jenkinson and Essery's LMS Locomotives so quite a lot of pics.

I can't see, thinking on it, how the footplate could have been done in epoxy - solder freezes in seconds, epoxy has to cure a long time.

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Did I say straightforward?  Pah!  I spent yesterday putting the boiler on and, all the while testing after each step (which, by the way, came with at least one problem to be solved).  By the end of the day, I had determined that the Loadhauler + GB that I had planned to use was too high, preventing the driven axle from moving up.

Today, I broke out my Loadhauler Compact GB and swapped the motor to it.  All well until I tried to fit the GB inthe chassis - it's 1mm wider than the old one and won't fit! :Red Card

So, I've just sent off a note to Chris Gibbons for two Humpshunter boxes.  These are the same width as LH+ , 80:1 GR and the motor sits quite low - we'll see.

In the meantime, I think I'll put this on the shelf and start something else...Jinty perchance?

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Hi John,
The joys of kit bashing.
Was the boiler to narrow once the footplate had been eased out?
That chassis even with EM spacer,s is too narrow. Hmm I have a feeling that chassis spacer,s vary in width depending on the brand both of the chassis and wheels used.
I shall take a look at those comet EM chassis spacers, Plus I have ordered a gibson wheel spacer for EM, I have C+L EM wheel spacer,s but I feel there is a difference.
My thinking is say you use Markit wheels which have a wider profile then the spacing will differ from other brands.
I shall now look at your Jinty thread with interest.
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Hello Derek.  The boiler's fine as is the footplate although still fairly fragile and bendy.

I think the chassis width is good as well.  The issue is that the hornblocks are INSIDE the frames.  The hornblock at the gearbox location is low profile as recommended by Chris G and I can just get a 10.8mm wide box between them.  The compact is 11.8mm or thereabouts so there's no chance. 

As long as you don't have inside hornblocks at the GB location all should be well.

I got a note from Chris today to tell me my order for additional CSB bits and 2 Humpshunter gearboxes is being packed. 

This is all good, since there's nothing like making mistakes to expand one's knowledge and experience.

I'll probably leave this until next year now.

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I got my packet of bits from High level today.  This includes a jig and parts to do CSB for the tender.  I also got my gearbox. :Happy

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