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 Posted: Fri Aug 16th, 2013 04:17 pm
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Dorsetmike
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Dapol and Bachman/Farish have done a lot for N gauge,  most of the innovations are good, but in some aspects I feel they have gone a bit too far. As with many present day products they don't lend themselves to user servicing and as a result are somewhat difficult to hack (at least that's what I find in N gauge). The screws and other fixings are so tiny you need to invest in (or make) tiny tools to fit. A small instrument screwdriver  is too big to fit the slot in some of the screws, so has to be ground down to fit, and as for ones with phillips/cross point heads ... ... ... I can hardly see the slots let alone work on them!

I model the SR 1930s in N gauge and there's not much RTR available so kit bashing and hacking RTR is often the only way to get the stock one needs. The newer Farish and Dapol models don't make things easier for hacking. I find the German makes much easier to work on, sensible sized screws, usually around 12BA-14BA, dunno what size the tiny Farish and Dapol ones are, certainly some much smaller than 16BA, if they were a BA size I'd guess 20BA or smaller! There are bigger screws in my watch!

Try adjusting the pick ups on a Farish Scot  without losing any screws, the one fixing the front bogie is the worst (probably the same on other models from them),. On Poole Farish you could do the job without undoing any screws, on the Scot remove the body, undo the 3 screws holding the keeper plate on, then find you need to take the weight off to get at the nut holding the pick ups in place. Do some careful bending of the phosphor bronze pick ups, too much and the wheels don't turn freely, too little and they don't make contact, once you're happy  you now have to put it all back together (do this alone to save offending the family with your language!) - always assuming you can find all the bits!

One word of warning, do not attempt this in a room with shag pile carpeting.

Is anybody else finding this problem?



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 Posted: Sat Aug 17th, 2013 07:32 am
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Yes and no.... Being GWR (and a little bit of BR Western Region) I don't have to scratchbuilders/kit bash...yet. I would like a Duke dog and a 517 class but that will come later, once I've built up the courage.

I did take a Poole Farish large prairie apart for cleaning, the screws were quite big as you say and easy to get to.... Getting driving rods back onto the guides, both simultaneously, was a right PITA afterwards though. Not something I'll be doing again in a hurry.

Loosing little bits on the floor, yes, too many times to mention, old polished timber floor boards, with the requisit gaps between the boards thereof. I even had the entire cab of a new Ixion Manor disappear under the skirting never to be seen again. Don't ask! It had been a bad week and that just finished it of nicely... I sat in a little pile on the floor and had a whimper as I recall.

Then Ixion realised that the scale of the model was wrong, recalled it and gave me a new one, in the correct scale, complete with cab. Nice fellas, I bought a second one too.

Sometimes you just have to put it down and leave it for another day.

Working inside a clear plastic bag works, as does wearing a large workshop apron, much better for catching bits in your lap.

As for tools, so far I've managed with a cheap set of tiny screwdrivers from the pound shop... Not for mich longer though by the sound of things...

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 Posted: Mon Aug 19th, 2013 02:43 pm
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My solution to such matters is let the grandkids do it - tiny screws and tiny hands are a better combination then tiny screws, shrek like mits AND a failing eye sight ! - "For heavens sake, give it here granddad !" and job done.

Just know when you're beat by an eight year old !

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Quote of the week.

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 There are bigger screws in my watch!


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 Posted: Mon Aug 19th, 2013 04:06 pm
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I do have about 11 grandkids and at the last time I heard about half a dozen GGkids, I last saw 4 grandkids at my wifes Funeral over 5 years ago, not a word since. (their dad was upset that I didn't give him my wife's PC or car)




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