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 Posted: Fri Aug 2nd, 2013 07:47 am
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I recently bought a Graham Farrish class 20 diesel (371-031) and wanted to convert it to dcc.

The instruction sheet that comes with it said to remove the 4 screws, one at each corner. Managed to do this, they are tiny, and tried to get the body shell off. Well I pulled, pushed pried, hit with a hammer, kicked it, swore at the cat all to no avail, the bloody thing was not coming apart.

About to give up in disgust I noticed a slight movement in the cab. Lo and behold the cab lifted off with a slight pressure and left the blanking plate/dcc socket in view. Stuck a chip in and off it went and went and went it would not stop. Traced it to a dodgy chip but that is another story.



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I've had similar issues trying to get a loco apart, in my case a Bachmann class 47.

Undone the screws, pulled, pushed kicked and squealed. No way, then clatter, a bogie fell off and what looked like a drive shaft of some sort and a metal whatsit fell out.

Brand new loco in bits. I put it back in the box and will take it to my local hobby shop to get fixed ( and chipped ). I bought it from a box shifter about a year ago and can't remember who. Not that it would matter as the warranty is probably up by now.

Also tried a class 3 straight from the box but it won't Work It appears to be binding in some way. Yet again purchased a while ago from a box shifter and can't remember who.

Something to be said for buying locally...........what a tosser...

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I always ask the shop to test the model beforehand and reject any that don't run properly.



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I usually buy my locos from Hattons of Liverpool via their website.  I ALWAYS test-run the new loco on my rolling-road.  Occasionally, I get one which  has slipped through the Chinese version of quality control, where the motion binds.  This goes straight back for a replacement.  I must say, Hattons are excellent in this respect.  Never any quibbles. (I've no connection with Hattons other than as a satisfied customer, and the fact that it's owned by my dad!). 




 




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I ran mine in thoroughly before conversion and it ran fine. Tried the chip in another (known good) loco, same problem.

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My main problem when buying was that I had no means of testing the loco at the time as I had not bought any track or controller as I was just amassing loco's. I suppose in hind sight that was a dodgy thing to do.

Now however I have my controllers both DC and DCC and a test track set up so Ican and will test all new purchases as they arrive.

As for the 2 out of 20 odds that I have bought, I'll foot the bill to have them corrected and learn from experience.

Onwards and upwards.

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I would expect a brand new loco to run perfectly out of the box.  It's just not good enough to wait for us to test them.  I've had the odd mediocre runner but never a complete failure.

At the moment, I'm not able to run a DC loco in without clearing my layout and connecting up a DC controller but I'm pleased to hear Hattons replace without question.  So they should, although it would prove a bit costly and time consuming from here .........!!!!



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Hi Petermac

I could fish around and find my old order forms on my Mac but there are two issues,

1 they were purchased up to a year ago.
2. It would cost a fortune in postage and insurance

Oh and third, the Class 47 screwed up when I attempted ( unsuccessfully ) to. Open it for chipping so that would constitute ( tampering ).

It ain't worth the hassle, I'll get them sorted and bite the bullet. I have only today ordered 5 A4 Gresley's.

Three from Rails of Sheffield which come unchipped but I will test them DC as soon as they arrive, and 2 from The Model Centre which come per-chipped that will also be tested DCC as soon as they come. As mentioned, previously I never had the facility to do this as I had only been at the Loco collecting stage, blissfully unaware of the disadvantage that I had put myself in.

Still, no longer. I'll let you know how I get on with the A4's when they arrive.

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Peter, why don't you buy yourself a rolling-road?  You can test-run and run-in your locos without the hassle of interfering with your layout. 
 
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My experience with Hattons is that they will refund the return postage for a faulty or incorrect item supplied by them. On the rare occasions I have had something wrong, they have always responded promptly, politely and with exemplary professionalism. I have heard many similar tales from other modellers too.



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:) Would you not be better off buying direct from Hornby and then if you have any problems you cause a fuss at Margate ;-)



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col.stephens wrote: Peter, why don't you buy yourself a rolling-road?  You can test-run and run-in your locos without the hassle of interfering with your layout. 
 
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That's something I've been thinking of doing for some time Terry. :roll:

Geoff R has one and I was pretty impressed when I saw it - the problem is, they're not very pretty and they cost a couple of coaches worth of money ...............;-);-)

I will probably fall for one eventually but I need my pennies for other "essentials" first ..............:cry:



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wahiba wrote: :) Would you not be better off buying direct from Hornby and then if you have any problems you cause a fuss at Margate ;-)
Big difference in price between Hornby RRP & eg  Hattons though



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SRman wrote: My experience with Hattons is that they will refund the return postage for a faulty or incorrect item supplied by them. On the rare occasions I have had something wrong, they have always responded promptly, politely and with exemplary professionalism. I have heard many similar tales from other modellers too.
My experience as well. 



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That's good to hear guys. :thumbs

Fortunately, I've never had to put it to the test because I've never had reason to return anything .....................yet !!!;-)



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The new decoder/s arrived today and one fitted to loco. After setting acceleration and deceleration it ran perfectly, before it took off like a scalded cat. You know 0 to warp 5 in .5 seconds.

I seem to have lost a rear buffer. It has snapped off flush with the body. Obviously too much side force. Will have to drill it out and replace with one I have in my junk, oops, spares box.

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Sod him. I'm having my say.

 

I did not "take off like a scalded cat" I am never scalded and am too ladylike to "take off". As for him swearing at me I'm used to it from that unmannerly old fool.

 

SO THERE.

 


 

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Se would appear to be hiding in a cupboard from you David ...............:roll::roll:  Could that be construed as "Infant Brutality" ?  Or maybe she's sulking because you've eaten her KitiKat  ................:cheers



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She was in the doorway between hall and front room and was plotting revenge on my ankles.

I've found through experience that she makes a good buffer stop but a lousy tunnel.

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klinger wrote: She was in the doorway between hall and front room and was plotting revenge on my ankles.

I've found through experience that she makes a good buffer stop but a lousy tunnel.

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