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 Posted: Fri Jan 25th, 2008 08:36 pm
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MikeC wrote:Nothing egotistical about that, Wayne. We know what we can and can't do. But really the only limiting factor is our determination.

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Well then, in that case, just call me determined! :roll: :roll: :roll:

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I decided after doing some assembly and disassembly of the Dome that I needed some kind of, call it a lock if you will, just a way of aligning and holding the Dome in place on the Silo. After several sketches and throwing most of them in the trash, I came up with this.

The disk is a snug fit into the inside of the Silo. It's almost impossible to see in this picture, but I sanded the edge to a bevel, which helps it to enter into the Silo. Keep in mind that the diameter of the Silo is not perfectly round, however this disk is as round as I can make it. So when it goes in it has to reshape the Silo into a better circle. It also, as it goes down into the Silo acts as a lock to hold the Dome in place. I can now hold it upside down and even shake and it stays in place. :smile: :smile: :smile:




After that little project I turned my efforts to attaching the rib covers. Now I know that these little buggers are small, but wow, are these things ever Small. You can tell from this photo that I have not learned how to use the solvent neatly. In fact I had to be very careful and work on opposite sides of the Dome from one Rib to the next. The solvent was weakening the .005 thick Skin of the Dome. In one spot I actually thought it was going to eat a hole right through it. Luckily it did not. At that point was when I started working from one side to the other to let the solvent cure longer before working next to it again.

I really hope the painting will hide the rough surface of the Dome, guess only time will tell.



So here is the Silo with the Dome installed.



I did place a cap over the Climbing Tower but as I now see in the picture, you can't see it! :evil:

I guess it's now back to the windows, and to set down and work on my "To Do List".

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Brilliant Wayne, absolutely brilliant.



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Fantastic Wayne.

I very difficult project carred out to perfection. It looks just like the rwal thing !! I'm full of admiration for your "determination". :wink: :wink:

Now all I want to see is how you tackle the maize ! :lol: :lol:

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Blooming marvelous wayne, well done.
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Actually I think the rough surface resulting from the solvent looks like a bit of wonderful weathering! Mentioning wonderful, everything about this project is!!!
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Excellent Wayne - Ive seen those huge silos when I've been over the pond and I know that yours is a fabulous representation of one.

Fantastic.:D :D

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That's a nice bit of natural 'weathering' already built in then, Wayne. I wouldn't worry about the rough surface - it'll look great when it's painted. :wink:

Well done. Fabulous job! :D

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Wayne, it looks great. Once you start painting it all that effort you spent scribing the blocks on the tower walls will really come through.



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darrenscots wrote:Wayne, it looks great. Once you start painting it all that effort you spent scribing the blocks on the tower walls will really come through.

Boy, I sure hope your right Darren. That is one thing I am concerned about, losing the blocks during the painting process. OK, that's not the only thing, it's actually the Entire painting process. :shock: :shock: :shock:

Spent the day putting in the windows and drilling 62 holes in the Silo for the steps and 48 holes for the metal rings that encircle the Silo. There are 31 vertical steps on the outside of the Silo. Me and my attraction for detail! I think I have the steps figured out, but making them all to look alike will be the ultimate test.

One question for all you painters out there. Should I paint the Silo before mounting the steps and metal rings in place or after? The steps and rings are very small wire (black),The steps protrude out from the Silo .057 and are .14 wide. :shock: (That's assuming I can make them that small)

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I would paint the silo first then add the ladder, if its a different colour to the silo. Also if the ladder is a different colour to the silo, , then i would paint that before i assembled it onto the building.
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A fantastic project, which is working out so well. I am really impressed with the results of the dome - just outstanding :!: I am really looking forward to seeing the finished product after it has been painted. I too would paint the Silo first and then paint the ladder and attach it. You could consider using black plastic to make the ladder assembly. This will ease the painting later.

by the way, we haven't forgotten the outshouse either, which I am sure is due a lick of paint :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Thanks for the advice guys, I will follow it. That however means the painting is not too far in my future. :( :( :(


Novice wrote:by the way, we haven't forgotten the outshouse either, which I am sure is due a lick of paint :lol: :lol: :lol:


:D :D :D Yes, it does need some paint. It would help if I had more confidence in that part of the project. I have decided to wait on the painting of the Outhouse and paint both projects at the same time. Two small projects and only one big mess! :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Whatever you do when you finnished the painting show the missu's otherwise she have you decorating :D :D
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Wayne Williams wrote:............One question for all you painters out there. Should I paint the Silo before mounting the steps and metal rings in place or after? The steps and rings are very small wire (black),The steps protrude out from the Silo .057 and are .14 wide. :shock: (That's assuming I can make them that small)

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I would certainly say paint the silo before attaching the steps, Wayne.

I don't know what kind of paint you intend using, but to avoid obscuring detail, work with the paint thinned. A couple of thin coats is far better than one thick one. This certainly applies to enamels anyway - the only type of paint I use. I'm guessing it's the same for acrylics, etc.

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I only have access to Acrylic paints. Much easier to clean up afterwards also.

I do have a question though, the Silo is currently white styrene, I need to paint it to look like concrete that looks more light brown to tan than light grey. Do I have to do a complete paint job of it in, say a light tan color, completely hiding the white styrene, then begin trying to make it look like concrete?

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As Perry says, keep the paint thin, especially early on. Thin the acrylics with water. You can buy loads of different mediums for acrylics, but every one I've used gives at least some degree of gloss.

It's going to be tricky to find the balance of enough paint to look concretey without clogging up the detail. I'd like to suggest you use artist's gesso for your white because it's gritty and matt finish. Also it accepts stains wonderfully well, which should help you get an authentic look. It won't be quite as water-resistant once it's done, so bear that in mind. It won't be fragile though :wink:

You're getting to the stage of using paint which is deliberately either transparent or opaque. Obviously any paint with white [or gesso] will be opaque, although such a mix could be thinned to be almost transparent. If I was tackling this job, I must admit I'd be unsure of how to go about it, but I'd start with a pale mix of browny-grey + gesso , kept thin, just thick enough to cover without killing the detail, over all of the concrete.
Once thoroughly dry I'd use some thin, transparent darker staining colours to vary it. This is where the gesso base will be very helpful.
I'd strongly suggest you practise on some scrap styrene beforehand.
You could even practise on some good styrene, because it woudn't be too hard to wash it all off afterwards. Methylated Spirit on a cloth would help remove any stubborn bits.


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Oh My! I feel like I'm back in the first grade again!

Guess it's off to the craft store to find some white gesso. At least the wife knew what it was. :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:

Thank You MikeC, lots of advice that I dearly need!

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I have been working on my "To Do List". While writing it I realized that I must be able to get at the bottom of the Silo in order to install all the steps and rings. In that regard I have added the same design I used on the Dome to attach the base. This is an edge view of the base showing the disc that will slide up into the Silo.



Now I can install and uninstall the base at will. The base is two layers of .030 styrene bonded together. I still need to get some of that putty to fill in around the edges of the base.



I have spent most of this afternoon working on the roof for the structure. I have sat down with this project, several times now, and figured out to lay out difficult areas. Let me tell you, this roof has surpassed all the other headaches ten fold. Getting that cut out for the shape of the Silo, laid out onto a sloped roof ......Priceless!



And a three quarter front view. The roof is just setting lightly on the structure. At this point the only thing holding the two halves of the roof together is the edge to edge bond at the peak of the roof. (Must handle with care!) You may also notice, the overhang off the end (away from the Silo) is too long. I made it way longer so that I could keep working that Silo shape down to get a better fit. I intend to leave it this way for awhile yet. Once I am really happy with the way everything fits together I will trim off the excess roof material.



Now a three quarter back view. You can really see the excess material on the roof in this view.



The test fitting of all the pieces.



Next up, well I think I must start working on the way the rings will attach to the Silo. I will actually put on one, maybe two of them and try sliding the climbing tower on and off. All rings will come off prior to the start of the painting. (Can't believe I'm talking about painting already!)

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Wayne, that is coming together very well!

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