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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder 
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Building the Scalescenes T008 Low-relief House Backs Needing some buildings to form the backscene to my extended shunting puzzle layout, and wanting some means of producing them quickly, easily, and relatively cheaply, I decided to use the new Scalescenes T008 Low-relief House Backs kit. This would make the building of a whole terraced row about a metre or so long an attainable target. I may decide to break up the run of buildings into smaller blocks, only some of which will have the outhouses (T008a) added for variety. First, I printed some windows from page 3 of the kit onto Ryman P1 adhesive A4 label sheets, and then cut out the windowpanes before sticking them onto an A4 inkjet transparent sheet. I didn’t count them exactly; I just filled up the transparency with mainly the ‘Medium’ windows and a smaller number of the ‘Small’ windows. Cutting the windowpanes out carefully with a sharp blade against a metal ruler, I made sure that the blade was always on the waste side of the ruler. This helps prevent damage to a wanted part if the blade should accidentally deviate and also stops the adhesive layer ‘rucking up’, which can be caused by the slight dragging of the blade as the cut is made. The preparation of the windows is no small task. Given that I plan to build a row of about 14 (or more) semi-detached houses, each with 5 windows, I will require at least 70 windows in total. Each window frame requires 8 knife cuts, making a total of a minimum of 560 individual cuts! I can already see that this build is going to be a fairly mammoth task.Photo's of my progress, which is likely to be painfully slow, will follow in due course.Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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Sounds interesting. Looking forward to the photos. Terry |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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With a little bit of cutting and juggling, I have managed to get just over 100 windows on one A4 inkjet transparency sheet. Not too tidy, but effective. Each frame has to be cut out individually anyway. I've got a few more in reserve as I don't know exactly how many of each I'm going to need yet. Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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Petermac Moderator 
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Well now, there's a turn up for the book.  Perry foresaking plastic in favour of card. You'll have me modelling GWR next ....... As I'm slowly, (very slowly), working my way through a row of houses/shops from the same stable, I'm going to really enjoy watching this Perry.  One question immediately springs to mind.  I understand what you mean about the knife "dragging" but if you keep the blade on the waste side of the ruler, doesn't that mean the ruler covers what you're cutting out ? If so, how do you know when your cut is long enough and/or in the right place ?p.s. Great to see you back in action.......  How are the eyes ?____________________ 'Petermac |
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Robert Deceased Member 
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Marvellous to have you back again Perry and modelling to boot. Like Peter really going to be watching this one but also like Peter I have to ask about the eyes.
____________________ The time in Spain is : Barchester |
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Sol A modelling Moderator. 
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And I have those to build as well so one thread really to watch.
____________________ Ron NCE DCC ; 00 scale UK outline. |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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Petermac wrote: .........One question immediately springs to mind. The ruler does indeed cover the part being cut out, but I can mark the extent of the cut on the waste piece with the knife point before putting the ruler in place. It works for me. Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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Thanks for the kind words, gents. I haven't really been away; I've looked in on here occasionally - just to see what's going on. As for the eyes, I'm tending to work using one of those table-mounted illuminated magnifying glasses. It sometimes gets in the way of the tools a bit, but I'm getting used to it. The hands, however, are another story, and that's why this build may take a while. On bad days, arthritis all but prevents my thumbs from gripping anything but on better days I can still do a bit of modelling whilst munching a few painkillers. Not ideal, but better than not doing any modelling at all. As far as the low-relief kits are going, I've just reached the stage of joining the floor/ceiling assemblies to the centre walls and have hit a slight snag. I cut the halving slots out according to the printed markings but perhaps my 'medium card' is slightly thicker than 1mm. The result is that I'm having to cut all the slots slightly wider. No big drama, but it's taught me that I should test one assembly before cutting the other eleven! More pictures later. Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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Petermac Moderator
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Thanks Perry - why didn't I think of that ................... I had exactly the same problem with my terraces regarding the slot for the floors. It's not an easy task to correct because there are so many slots the floor has to sit in. I tried an "assembly line" system - cut all the inner wall panels, stick them all on then just slot the floors in .................. I was extremely impressed by both the weight and the strength of these kits. There's more to this lark that a tube of glue and a knife.........  Re the hands - spring is on the way so hopefully, things might improve a bit with the dryer, warmer weather ............... ____________________ 'Petermac |
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Chubber Casseroled Badger 
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Hi, Perry, nice to see you about the bazaar, may be of interest, I 'reviewed' this kit by way of a three-part article here https://www.model-railways-live.co.uk/Articles/269-16/Structures_and_Scenics/Cardboard_Modelling_the_Scalescenes_Way_by_Doug_Dickson_-_making_openings_cutting_and_folding The other two parts are in successive months. Doug ____________________ 'You may share the labours of the great, but you will not share the spoil...' Aesop's Fables "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin |
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sparky Member
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Wish i had spotted that before i made a few up. Turned out quite nice ,but ask me who forgot to put curtains up. ____________________ reg |
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Petermac Moderator
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OK, if you insist. Who forgot to put curtains up Reg ?  ____________________ 'Petermac |
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I've recently bought this kit for use on my Market Havering layout so I'll be interested to see how you get on. Let's see plenty of progress pics please Perry. ____________________ Regards, Trevor |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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One can see clearly the amount that I needed to enlarge the width of the slots. The right-hand part is cut as per the printed markings. The left-hand one is cut to fit! Obviously the thickness of the card I am using is too great. I'm currently thinking about binning those that I have cut wider and re-making the parts from a thinner card; possibly with a cover layer on each side. I'm concerned that enlarging the slots may displace some other parts later on. Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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phill Hello 
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Is this a GWR layout Perry , because you know it makes sense to do GWR one,  Phill |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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phill wrote: Is this a GWR layout Perry You never give up, do you, Phill? No, it's the same layout and it hasn't moved regionally or geographically. Nor is it likely to. Nice to hear from you though. Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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phill Hello
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I can not give up mate, its my calling to convert all of you sinners and make you see the GWR light  Phill |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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After a little bit of tinkering about, I've made a decision and have binned the double-thickness floor/ceiling assemblies. I have made some new ones from a single thickness of card with a cover layer glued either side. I still need to cut the slots in them very slightly wider than the printed markings to accommodate the Centre Wall assemblies, but at least all the other parts should fit OK. My card was a little too thick and it's a very hard, rigid card too. Only a small amount of card and printed material have been wasted plus a little bit of time, but I feel it's worth getting these early stages as right as I can. If I start the build wrong, it may be hard to recover it later. Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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Campaman Full Member 
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I think you have made the right decision by doing that, I find these kits do have a bit of lee way built in but the nearer you are to the correct card thickness the better the fit of all the parts.
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Marty Enjoying the Journey 
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... and you have always been able to bin something that just doesn't feel right in the past. A sound practice that I find difficult to follow but the quality of your scratch builds compared to mine says it all.  I do hope you are managing to progress the project despite the challenges you have been presented with. The record of your builds on this forum are some of my main scratch building reference tutorials. cheersMarty ____________________ Marty N Gauge, GWR West Wales Newcastle Emlyn Layout. Newcastle Emlyn Station is "Under construction" |
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