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 Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2013 02:25 pm
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Dave Lee Travers you say...Hmmm, well he got lucky!

Cheers guys, but I would have preferred Elvis...

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 Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2013 03:44 pm
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Hi Guys.

I just thought that you'd be interested in the above - a vast O Guage layout that couldn't go anywhere!

The owner insisted that I stuck to his plan - a mail line terminus, full length trains that left the station, the loco and first carriage entered the tunnel, couldnt negotiate the sharp radius curve that went into a single line inside the tunnel and terminated at  a small country branch over on the opposite side of the room thus leaving the rest of the departing carriages just clear of the platform end then having to reverse back into the station!!

Also, there was a spur that led off to a massive MPD, coaler, ash plant, turntable, huge loco repair shops, wagon and carriageworks - WITH full blown interiors - and heaven alone knows what else - and NOTHING could reach any of it!! - and the Mags refused to entertain it although one said that it would consider it as long as it was sent in without a track plan!!! - so here is the only picture I have...

BTW.That painted backdrop by a professional artist cost...wait for it!...£25,000!!!!!

But, and as they say, you pay the Piper, you call the tune.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2013 05:16 pm
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"That painted backdrop by a professional artist cost...wait for it!...£25,000!!!!!"
The Sistine Chapel was cheaper!



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 Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2013 05:58 pm
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Hi DDolfelin.

Ah well, old Mike only had one go at it, the artist in this case didn't.

The layout owner would come home every day from his buisiness with a totaly new idea altogether - then get the artist to immulsion all over his days work and start again so, what should have taken a few months at most, took a few years at least!!

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 Posted: Sun Mar 3rd, 2013 08:26 pm
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I suppose I'd better explain that!

The layout being an O16 Narrow gauge mining layout meant, of course, that the trackwork  is 00 Guage so therefore anything in four mil could run quite happily on it but - would it look stupid?

Well, here we have a Backmann OO GWR PANNIER heading a rake of OO wagons and if I say so myself, looks quite at home doing it!

Anyway, see what you think.

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I think it would have problems if those wagons were loaded!

More brilliant work.



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It had problems with them empty!

The loco died an electronic death years ago and was pulled out of the dead loco department in the workshop just to pose for the camera!

However, in the real world those old 54XXs pulled well for a small 0 6 0 tank but as DDolfelin said, it might have had problems with a loaded frieght that long, up in the mountains and thousands of miles away from home and the rolling hills of Devon and Ashburton in particular!

But didn't the Southern run an American narrow guage derived 2-4-2 tank that worked up in the mountains somewhere?

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It still makes a good pic.
Clever smoke arrangement, too.



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Smoke compliments of Chris Nevard and computer 'smoketronics' and worlds apart from the old days when we  streamed a wad of cotton wool with one end stuffed down the chimney!

Dunno where he got the sky from though, or even how he stuck it there...

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Above.

A few cut down black & white pics ( the immages were to big and wouldn't upload ) of 'Brandy Wharf' and what started out as a small Diorama, and ended up 20 feet long!

The castle gateway shot just there more or less to show off the typical Scotish style buildings along the back.

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Looks 'real', Allen - which I suppose is the point of doing it to that standard.



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allan downes wrote: Come on Allan, stop putting photos of the real thing in, rather than models.. not fair !!  :shock:How are we meant to know which is which ????????



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I agree Andy. :thumbs

Truly amazing modelling there Allan. 

One has to ask, why did you hang up your scalpel ?  Was the modelling your "job" and you decided to retire ? 

Whatever, it's a great pity for the current railway modellers that you're no longer "in production".



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"what started out as a small Diorama, and ended up 20 feet long!"

I work the opposite way.



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Hey Guys, easy on the compliments! - then on the other hand....

Where reality was the aim, what I used to do was to take a building outside and if it could stand up under natural light and looked real then it would pass muster and then be used on whatever it was I was building at the time.But if it failed - and many certainly did! - then it would get dumped.

Where means and methods were concerned I kept everything as simple as possible - sometimes you can just try to hard, and when things are going pear shaped, learn just to walk away from it, and come back to it when you're in a better frame of mind - sometimes the solution to a problem is only a good nights sleep away - or a couple of pints!

Oh, and don't let 'dead scale' get in the way of a good model - near enough is good enough even if good enough is rough!

Regards to all.

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Hi Peter.

Yes, modelmaking was my job where I treated everything that I built as if I was building it for myself - sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.

No current project at the moment - I'm supposed to be retired! - but the more I keep looking at all the terrific layouts that light up this Forum, well it gets increasingly difficult just to sit back and admire the brilliance of others - there really is some amazing modelling and model makers hitting these boards at almost an hourly rate and I feel proud just to be part of it.

Best regards.

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Above.

Two examples of 4mil Ornate Tudor built in the mid 70s with 20/20 vision!

The 'timberwork' was drawn onto a large sheet of post card quality card then cut out as one piece where it ended up looking like a doily - one false move, and you ended up with a pile of confetti!

The screen printed windows were my own product at the time - Downesglaze, distributed by Peco - and though I have no connection anymore, I do believe they are still available.

Tiling was individual tiles laborously cut out, again, from sheets of post card quality card and laid down one at a time, and by the time I had finished the buildings, 20/20 vision had given way to bi-focals and a white stick!

Anyway, hope you like these early efforts.

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Talk about a walk down memory lane... I remember seeing the original articles for some of these buildings - I was amazed then, but now I know a bit about making buildings - I'm staggered !!



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Blimey Stubby, you must have been just a mere lad back then!

They were all part of a really massive 4mil layout and July Andrews and her husband, Blake Edwards ( who later commissioned me to build a castle for one of his 'Pink Panther' films) were friends of the owner and visited the layout in progress almost every week end although I wasn't allowed anywhere near the place when they visited so I never met them and even when I built that castle, I had to deal with the props department and later I would like to tell of the time when the head man at Pinewood wanted me to build 8 'Marscapes' using the real rocks and dust brought back from Mars at the time and,  at £8,000 each, was just waiting for Houston to release the samples...

So meanwhile, and from back here on Planet Earth, best regards to all.

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