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 Posted: Tue Nov 20th, 2012 12:43 pm
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A fictitious station based on the West Midlands area of the GJR/SSR part of the LNWR set in the badly dilapidated days of the late 1950's, early 1960's, the buildings are based on those from various locations thrown into one. General overview pics of the scenic boards still far from finished. More to follow.



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That looks very interesting........dont leave us in suspense.......tell us a little more:lol:



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Oh I just love it .:thumbs 
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'Prologue'

I've already covered a potted history of myself in my introduction in the 'New Member' part of the forum so I will try to avoid repeating myself.

After a lengthy period being involved in the hobby, I thought it time to build a 'roundy-roundy' model representing  one of my favourite areas of my trainspotting days. As I already had a workshop of the size I had in mind for the layout, designs for a suitable layout (oo gauge) were drawn out. There were limitations, the internal dimensions of the shed being 19 feet 6inches long, and 7 feet 6 inches wide. The original idea was for modular baseboards built to make it available for shows, and deep enough to accomodate Tortoise point motors. Not long after starting, but after the baseboards were built, priorities changed, not having enough spare time at weekends procluded being available for shows, and back trouble (sciatica) meant a few alterations to certain ideas, such as the use of point motors based underneath, now had to be top mounted, and wiring had to be easy accessible from the operating side instead of underneath. 

The baseboards were all built from 9mm plywood, 4 along each side making each 56 inches long, allowing a little for movement at each end when taking apart, and again when re-assembling. The scenic boards being 24 inches wide, the fiddle yard boards ( the other side) at 18 inches.

Because of baseboard joins there had to be some compromise on the turnout placements, but compromise is a fact in modelling.

The station layout decided on ( see pics already posted) was a 4 platform affair, 2 platformed main-lines thro, with 2 passing loops between, and 2 suburban terminus platforms. The original idea was for a typical 2 storey GJR station building, but it looked too imposing on a road overbridge.The original idea was to have a sweeping curve thro' the station, but I did mention compromise, so I had to, due to the overall width of the space I had to work in.

With the baseboards finished, the track profile was drawn on, and 1/16 of an inch thick cork was applied to enhance the track bed profile, I use Charles Cantrill cork stuck down with PVA, rolled, and flattened with a decorators edging roller then kept in place with bricks - yes housebricks untill the PVA has set ( after 24 hours). As I only had 30 bricks available to use, thats how much was done at a time!

With about 105 yards of required cork laid, it was time for the track - code 75 Peco, yes OO gauge, I've dabbled with P4, and EM in the past, but there aint enough hours in a day. Again the track was set in place with PVA, NO TRACK PINS, and house bricks again, but this time with strips of cardboard between the bricks, and rail tops. End result - perfectly flat.

The point motors are a mix of board top mounted Peco PL10's & 11's suitably adapted to be sited away from the track, with micro-switches to change polarity, this again was a compromise because of back trouble as mentioned earlier.

Wiring, DC yes DC, with 40 or so kit built locos with no room for extra bits, and perfectly acceptable bespoke analogue control, why fix it if it aint broke.

Once the wiring was completed, all was well tested, and the next job - ballasting. Fine granite ballast is used sifted thro' a 1mm mesh sieve before hand. All fixed in place using thinned water based matt oak wood stain in a mix of shades depending on the location on the layout, Walnut being used for locations where locos stand, to avoid getting it on rail-tops apply with the help of a 10ml syringe with a small drop of industrial alcohol ( car screen wash or 'IPA') to combat surface tension, it then all comes ready coloured - a proper job. 

To save boring you all, enough for now, more pics to be added later, feel free to comment ( constructive comments are welcome - others will be ignored:cool:), and ask questions.   

 

 



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Paul, your layout looks great.  How have you constructed the buildings?

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col.stephens wrote: Paul, your layout looks great.  How have you constructed the buildings?

Terry

 


Many thanks, the outside walls of the platform buildings are 'Grand Junction' kits from Parkside Dundas, all the rest is scratchbuilt by yours truly from drawings I made from photos of various locations, by counting brick, and plank courses. Walls are embossed plasticard strengthened with 1mm plain plasticard, window frames are fabricated, on top of graph paper to keep it square,  with evergreen plastic strip, and glazed with .010" clear plastic before placing in position on the wall on which it belongs.

 Roofs are, like most general construction, 1mm plasticard covered with tiles made from paper sheet ( about 0.005" thick) sprayed roof colour with seperate tiles drawn with a hard grade pencil with the point kept sharp after every few lines, the paper is then cut in 2 rows at a time, and with one row overlaped, and offset at half a tile (hope I explained that ok ??). All chimneys are fabricated from embossed brick plasticard, and are profiled by overlaping brick courses.

 The roof flues on the lineside huts are made from 1/16" o/d brass tube.Platform canopy roofs are 0.5mm plastic sheet, cross braced with 1/32" plastic rod.The weathered glass pains are again 0.010" clear plastic, with framing bars added.

Hope this has given you an idea on how it's done, please ask if you need to know anything else.  



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3 more pics, top one the 'southern end' of the scenic boards, with 'Cannons Lane No. 1' signal box to be added in the back ground (where the point rodding ends or lead off bed). One of 2 LNWR type 4 signal boxes yet to construct.



Middle pic is the 'northern' end., where No.2 box will be (one day), just beyond the furthest platform end, tucked into the retaining wall.



Bottom pic is the control panel with 2 intergrated controllers made to suit the layout, and locos, by a good friend of mine (electrics is NOT my strong point:roll:), top is the scenic boards, fiddle yard at the bottom.



 



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Looking very nice Paul.  Thanks for the details of how you are constructing the buildings.

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The photographs that guys put on here are impressive to say the least, and these are no exception. I show her in doors some of the photo's, and she often says "they look so real, you sure they are photo's of models and not the real thing". What better compliment can you get than that. Then she looks at my efforts and well we'll leave it there I think. Keep them coming fellas, I get a lot of pleasure and inspiration from them.
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Another 3 pics for the collection

Top one shows the main station building from the 'north',not to far from completion.

Middle pic is same again from the 'south', the weathering isn't quite right, good job it's weathering powders that'll wash off.

The bottom one is the loco currently being worked on, a 'Little Engines' 04/8, it developed a running fault, now corrected, but I have to add the fall plate, and crew, and hide the wires to the tender pick-ups. This loco is one of my most powerful, and runs at a top (scale) speed of 30 mph.

 

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It was such views as this, with it's wealth of detail, that gave me inspiration, and it is such that I'm trying to include in 'Cannons Lane'.



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Hi Paul
I'm trying to work out what I am seeing through the road bridge. Is it a streamlined loco or a coach?
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rhiwderin_ray wrote: Hi Paul
I'm trying to work out what I am seeing through the road bridge. Is it a streamlined loco or a coach?
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Good question, as a steam only 'dinosaur' I couldn't tell you, but as the picture is the north end of, what was, the main line platforms at Walsall, about 3/4 of a mile beyond was Ryecroft shed, then the home for a good selection of various DMU's for, what was, quite an extensive local service ( Wolverhampton, Burton,Stafford via Rugeley,Dudley, Birmingham etc). I think classes included 100/1/3 &4, or someone could put me right, but I need at least one for the layout to set the period. The one in the pic must be one of those in the early, 'speed whisker' livery. 



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Hi Paul

Yes, now that you have mentioned it, I can make it out as a diesel. I love the fireman or driver leaning on the loco.



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rhiwderin_ray wrote: Hi Paul

Yes, now that you have mentioned it, I can make it out as a diesel. I love the fireman or driver leaning on the loco.

The driver, the fireman is looking after the bag in the water tank filler hole. Probably replenishing inbetween duties as station pilot, which could, in those days, be hectic, as on the east side of the station was a large goods shed, and between there, for a mile or more along the east side of the line, near enough to Bescot junction, were many sidings, both goods, and carriage, add to that,  on the west side there was also the big corporation gas works sidings, and a selection of industrial sidings.  



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Just to let you know that I hadn't completely forgot about this thread, work has progressed, a little slower than preffered. Most of it done in the office rather than the workshop as it has been smaller stuff such as station 'furnishings' such as platform seat, platform lamps, barrows,trolleys,signs etc, as well a larger stuff as the first of two signal boxes nearly finished, and signals, 6 LNWR LQ, and two LMS UQ. The signal box is a modified Churchward Models exLNWR type 4, the LQ signals are scratchbuilt from plastic strip powered with Viessmann slow-acting signal motors. The top pic is one of two platform starters with calling-on arm. The bottom pic shows the 'ironwork' under construction for two 'underslung/gallows' signals, behind 3 of the 4 other LQ's, the 4th will be another short signal.  The signals still need detail adding, such as counter-balance levers, and ladders etc.

 














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Forgot to add, these have also been added to the layout:).

 



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Very nice indeed Paul.  How did you come by the water columns?
 
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from here;-
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but the water bag is made from thin insulating tape.



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