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 Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2012 08:22 pm
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Herewith an initial photograph of the building I'm making for my Bear's End station. 'Bear's Valley' station became a terminus, renamed 'Bear's End', following the collapse and closure of the western tunnel to the Wheal Gravey pasty mines. The lower seams of the richest pasty fillings were flooded with salt water making the line unprofitable and the redeveloped station was subsequently absorbed into the G.W.R.

 



 

Poop poop!

 

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I feel another bout of jealousy coming on.

That's looking awesome Doug, I look forward to more pictures.



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That's looking excellent Doug. :thumbs

What have you made the cornice and arch header out of ?  I half expected tosee "Kellog's" over the door ............:lol:



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Nice start Doofer but I hope you aren't overdoing it with the eyes. It's only been a few days since the treatment.



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Nice to see you back on the horse, Doug.  :thumbs

Another masterpiece on the way.  You must have a collection by now.  I can't bear to part with my "restored" locos, but they don't take up much room by comparison.

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Superb Doug and am looking forward to seeing it develop.

Incidentally I only just read about your eyes but hopefully they are on the mend.

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Looking good Doug.  More details of construction please.  Don't strain those eyes.

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That has all the makings of a superb piece of scratch building Doug but please don't overdo it with the eyes. Like Peter I would also like to know how you've created the arch and cornicing. It looks absolutely brilliant. 



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Here we go again :cool wink

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After seeing this I think I might have to scrap all my buildings and go lay down in a darkened room :sad:



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I think you will find that room quite crowded Mike!:lol:

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Thank you all for your kind remarks, we can all do it if you are as daft as me and have time to spend to keep on doing it until it's right! I'm being rationed  on computer and moelling time by Cruella DeVille at the moment!

Herewith some answers/sketches, the arch assembly is all card apart from the little curved 'brackets', fabricated from 3 fibre washers glued together with poxy resin and sawn up, the square uprights are 4mm stick from a firework rocket I picked up in the road years ago and sprayed with white car undercoat.




 

Below a sketch to show how I will try to make the booking hall and canopy, basically I shall try to make a rectangular roofless building, lay a piece of 2mm purze-pecks on top and then put a roof unit on top, where the purze-pecks sticks out the sides, it will form a porch and a canopy....Hey Ho! as our chum says, we'll see if it works....


 

 



 

T't't'that's all for now, folks,

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Apart from the skill in executing the thing Doug, it's all in the planning I see.

Whoever would have thought of rocket stick and fibre washers ......................:shock::shock:

A brilliant idea about the "purz-pecks" - I can see that being featured on many future stations ........... :thumbs 

I'm planning to build the Scalescenes large overall roof for my terminus station at Maxmill Town and have been pondering about how to make the roof removeable whilst maintaining the strength of both it and the walls.  Any ideas ? :roll:



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Wheal Gravey pasty mines???
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 Nice to see you back in harness Doug,you listen to "Cruella"and don't damage those valuable peepers by doing too much!

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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A little progress, cutting the 1mm blue brick wraps is a PITA, 288 x 1mm cuts to a 4" length, which only does 3-4 windows, if you don't mess it up!

 



 

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A little progress, cutting the 1mm blue brick wraps is a PITA, 288 x 1mm cuts to a 4" length, which only does 3-4 windows, if you don't mess it up!

 

Yes, but it sure is worth it!   Looks great Doug.

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Oh shite - it makes my efforts look like Superquik :oops: - very well done Mr Doofer :pathead



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Sol wrote: Oh shite - it makes my efforts look like Superquik :oops: - very well done Mr Doofer :pathead

One day, mine will look this good Sol - and then when I am up to Superquick standards I will move onto Metcalf! :mrgreen:



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I thought those little curved brackets were made from Polo mints...



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Stubby! How did you know? What I did was cut outthe holes in the middle and wrapped fibre washers round them....:)

 

Herewith a little progress, at last all the window and door edges are fitted with their blue brick corners and the window sills given a smooth covering of paper strip. It has been difficult getting the blue and the red to line up, be the right width and fold at the right place.

I have been working both tides to produce a light and dark stone colour for the computer to match the Precision Paints shades. I painted some scraps with each and scanned them, thinking it would be a simple job to 'paste' the colour into my 'pooter, but what's painted on card and what comes out of the printer are totally different. I'm not totally satisfied, but they will have to do.

 



 

Gluing down the overlays using a paintbrush and watered down PVA



 

Small windows



 

 

A kit of bits....




 

Close-up bits....



 

Hey Ho! as John would say, time for brekkers...

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It might have been easier to paint the red bricks blue...Or, cut the paper for the blue bricks straight down the edge of the full brick, and then only paint the outer half blue bricks red...



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This looks really good so far. When you are finished, can you post it to me ? My address is 35 Ryan Rd...

Oh, and a matching engine shed, goods depot, signal box....

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[color=#008800 __vsttTracked="1"]Gary wrote: This looks really good so far. When you are finished, can you post it to me ? My address is 35 Ryan Rd...Oh, and a matching engine shed, goods depot, signal box....Cheers, Gary.Oh, there's nothing in here that any of us can't do, given enough time, patience, understanding, skill, deft fingers, correct tools.....



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Doug, if you have access to photoshop, you could print blocks of pure colour Black, Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, Cyan and Magenta. Then re-scan the print out. I think its the picker tool will display the RGB or CMYK values (depends on mode) for each block, this should give you a clue to the correction you will need to apply to fix the colours. In reality this should be done for each change of ink or toner.

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Thank you for that, Paul, I really must get to grips with this colour business! There is agreat deal of controversy over what are 'real' GWR colours, I've decided to stay outside the arguments and just go for a GWR 'flavour' I'm not worried too much by the purists,  just like corno-flako packeto bashing!

Herewith some windows, including a 'half-opened' one, sticky paper and ground-down scalpel method.



Listening to a great Bob Harris country show, thank God for the BBC I-Player, there is little on the idiots lantern to tempt me at the moment.

 

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Listening to a great Bob Harris country show
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Doors and windows added...



 

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Currently Paul Jones, Rythm and Blues.....do you listen to Mike Harding, Bob Harris or Russell Davies? They are all on my BBC I-Player favourites list.

Anyway, I know I should be doing more building but I've got sidetracked into 'decorating', herewith the ticket office and the ladies room in course of construction...




 



 

I will get on with the horrid roof-line problems, I will, I will get on with the horrid roof-line problems, I will, I will get on with the horrid roof-line problems........

 

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Looking great there Doug!
Hope your not stressing your eyes too much - especially binding all those books on the book case in the waiting room!
I do hope they have a copy of 'Blood on the Line' by Edward Marston... 
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Simply Fantastic!   I love all that detail which although it probably won't be seen is, to me, the sign of a real modeller.   (And I thought I was bonkers when I put the ticket office 'window and counter' in my "N" station building's booking hall!!!!!). :roll:

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Hi, All,

Further to two requests by PM herewith a PDF attachment for the GWR 'Shirtbutton' era posters I have used for this building..

Good luck,

 

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Stubby47 wrote: What about this one ?




Fer cryin' out loud, it's the 'Cornwall' one, Porthminster Beach from St Ives, photographed at the NRM, 'ere, you should've gorn to 'Specsavers'........

 

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As Ken said, the internal detailing is exquisite.  I suppose Stu is also right in that anyone could do it - given the skill, patience, deft fingers, correct tools etc. etc.  The problem is, most of us lack your level of skill, patience, deft fingers and correct tools etc.etc. so we just have to admire what you are able to achieve and dream. :roll::roll::roll::roll:   I even make a pig's ear out of Metcalfe stuff and all I have to do there is glue the corners together..................:cry::cry::cry:

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...... and just to rub it in a bit more he's doing this with a dodgy eye :roll:

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....well, I couldn't resist playing some more....the Stationmaster wanted a desk and a stove in his office, so, as he's the boss it had to be  done..

 




 

 

...and then he said 'Where do I keep my books, and what am I supposed to sit on, my thumb?' [Mr Zebone Washgate, the Station Master is sometimes a little short as Inspector Luke Ought has been on his case lately], so.......


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I found myself wanting to see around the partition to make sure the flue pipe was in the correct alignment.
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Have station masters not heard of the Dewey decimal system?

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I am shocked there are no time tables or maps on the wall though!

Awesome work Doug.


Cor! I haven't even got his pink blotter on the desk yet....phew!

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Now, tell us how you did it - particularly with a gammy eye .................:roll::roll:

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Hullo, haven't posted much modelling lately, 'cos I ain't done much! However, with the weather closing down and my eye slowly improving [I still have a little 'porcupine' that covers about two adjacent letters in a novel and runs from side to side as I read...]
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First, the disaster! I said earlier that I would use a 1mm sheet of perspex as a false roof, cut holes in it to allow light through and illuminate the offices through appropriately placed cut-outs......wiring and a battery in the removable roof. Canopy valences, brackets from packeto-cornoflako etc all in place, only to find the perspex acted like sheet of fibre optic and spread light everywhere. Silver foil, paint, many coc%-ups later the roof assembly was submitted to 'stamp test' and it failed, so I have installed the LEDs inside the building and I've started a new roof. [I know, I could have simply not turned on the lights but well......]

Herewith some piccies of the chimney stacks in build*, the new removable roof to access any LED problems, showing my newest method of adding barge-boards to a gable end [which will also give 'light-proofness' at the end], a dormer just resting in place.......Oh! and a cheap and tacky Christmas light decorative 'candle' which contains a neat flickering yellow diode which when rubbed over with a red permanent marker makes a very convincing fire flicker inside the Stationmaster's sitting room.

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Trevor - If you dont mind though, I think the blue brick opening surrounds could do with a little weathering to hide the white edges.


Thank you, and I don't mind at all, it will be done. As I intend to use scraped pastel I shall wait until it's finished.

Terry - The brick paper looks as if it has more orange in the colour than the normal Scalescenes red brick. Or is it a trick of the light? Explain please.

Hi, Terry, it is probably the light as I couldn't be bothered to go and get my daylight LED lamp from the caravan. Also, the chimney stacks are in Scalescenes TX11 Brown stretcher paper, because

a. chimney stacks are usually built in stretcher bond to give an 9" flue

b. I try always to use more than one colour of brick to get away from the 'Scenecraft' look [occasionally I'll print in Adobe RGB mode and Epson Photo Enchance in the same run of wall for the same reason]

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A little more progress, before setting off tomorrow to the soggy-sounding U.K. to sprinkle my mother's ashes at Longmoor Camp, site of the former Longmoor Military railway. She wants to end up there because it's where she and my step-father met, he being a sapper and we sprinkled him there many years ago.

So, herewith, the booking-hall roof and chimbleys [Gosh, how I hate flashing']











I'm a little puzzled/undecided over what to write in the arch header,  'GWR Bear's End Station'? Maybe just 'Bear's End Station' with small letters for 'Trains to London' or some-such?

I'm also undecided on the ridge-tiles....the building was built after the engine shed [below] when the station became a terminus after the closure of the Wheal Gravy Pasty mine and the collapse of the tunnel west, so they may have been a little more economical....?





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Hullo, Alan,

Thanks for your wishes, no, they didn't live at the Wiltons, she already lived at Andlers Ash Road in Liss, and he was formerly at the Sergeants' Mess, being a Moulder in the LMR Workshops. He cast the nameplates for Gordon and Kitchener and many of the gate badges.


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'Branchlines to Longmoor' [Middleton Press ISBN 0=906520-41-X section 92 shows Black Prince on 28Sep1968 in company with Clan Line at LMR, and in section 53 '...David Shepherd's 9F 92203 hauled the Bullied Pacific Preservation Society's special train to Longmoor....on arrival it was re-named 'Black Prince' by Major General Lonsdale on 8thJune 1968." if that helps?

It's a bl%%dy pity the NIMBYs on the Liss P'Council and the local over-bearing retired ex-army-twat 'Wheneyes' virtually vetoed what could have become the finest, best provisioned preservation railway in the country.

Given the tourist draw and inward investment that such a huge P.R. could generate today I bet they are kicking themselves, with the resurgence of interest in all things military added to the 'choo-choo' stuff. It even had a 'private' line to Liss village at Lis Junction with the S.R.!

Your  O.C.D. [Officer Commanding Domestics] may remember her parent being involved as film extras, Mum was in 'Interrupted Journey' starring Richard Todd and Valerie Hobson as an extra when old Army ambulances were painted in GWR colours [on one side] in an ambulance train crash scene [28May 1949]to name just one of many films made there.

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I should think not at your age Doug!!!!!

Super modelling as usual but dare I say that the "cornice beading" looks too dominant, well to my eyes that is.   Sorry.

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I should think not at your age Doug!!!!!

Super modelling as usual but dare I say that the "cornice beading" looks too dominant, well to my eyes that is.   Sorry.

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Not at all, Ken, I'm hoping that when weathered down from the bright white and balanced with a canopy the other side it will look less 'obvious'. It seemed O.K. in the planning stages, but it's too late now! I have a 'Plan B' for which I'll need some feedback on my return from UK, that is a line of blue brick under the second ledge.

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Hi Doug

Somehow I missed this entire thread.................I guess it was because most of the posts were in August.........whatever.......its totally brilliant.

I do admire your patience with the blue brick trim..............initially I was quite puzzled........its extremely effective and looks very authentic.

I suspect that the cornice once it has been weathered will not be so prominent...........as the station was built prior to the line being taken over by the GWR you could have the the name of the original railway company......suitably faded.......The Great Bisto Gravy Junction line  ...........or similar

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John Dew wrote:Hi Doug 

I suspect that the cornice once it has been weathered will not be so prominent...........as the station was built prior to the line being taken over by the GWR you could have the the name of the original railway company......suitably faded.......The Great Bisto Gravy Junction line  ...........or similar

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Thank you, John, and there is a good idea!


I think to arch is too big so have revamped it, and given the mid 30s era have tried some sign writing, here it is just resting in place, unpainted. I might try some different fonts.


Any thoughts y'all? Still too big/wide/high etc? Add round bits at the ends? Should I try a smaller arched model?
 

 
I think I am also going to 'brickiefy' the small lowest element of the cornice moulding...gulp..

 

 

well, brickiefied cornice lower edge....?





 
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It is a superb building Doug............you have every right to be proud of it.

I like the sign writing and the shirt button logo:thumbs looks spot on.

To me it was a little unclear as to whether the sign was an architectural feature that was an inherent part of the original design or a sign attached to the roof after it was built........having see it lettered I think it should be the latter

To that end, if it were me. I would remove the heave vertical supports and replace them with ones identical in profile to horizontal members thus making a simple frame.

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Hi Doug,

That's a great looking building Doug but, TBH and to my eye, that cornice still looks a little heavy. It somehow seems to be out of proportion to the rest of the building. I presume it is intended to have been made of stone but something of that cross-section and consequent weight would have had to be cut and carved in quite short sections if it had to be man-handled into position. To my mind it would be more in keeping as a parapet on a large Georgian or Edwardian Country House.

I'm sorry if this seems a bit harsh but I have a feeling that you know yourself, in your heart of hearts, that something is not quite right or why else would you try to slim the proportions down a bit by 'brickifying' the lower part of the cornice.

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As I'm the one who first mooted it about the cornice I think both John and Trevor have furthered the discussion in a very nice and helpful way, however it's your model Doug so it's your decision whether you wish to alter it (needless to say it's a super piece of modelling anyway!).

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Hi Doug

I should have looked back before posting......slap on wrist

The original stone cornice with curves and finials looks great as an architectural feature......its just not right for a GWR branch station........hence the "original railway company"

Version 2 looks just like the board you may see on a GWR branch except for the heavy end posts......I had assumed this version was wood rather than stone:oops:

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I would be happy if my buildings turned out a quarter this good ! Excellent modelling.
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None needed, John, no way.
I will admit to using a fairly obscure GWR feature, and I know there are some obnoxious sorts elsewhere who will do a 'Nah-nahni-nah-nah' thing along the lines of 'I've been GWR modelling for 30 years and never seen such a thing.....!!!' but that's not my intention here, I promise. I could have simply put on a white letters on black as has been correctly [99% of the time] suggested but I wanted something different!
Poop poop...latest sign arch attempt, any better?  Probably with 'GWR' above 'Bear's End Station' although printing and cutting out such a shape will be a so & so.



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Doug, as always a wonderful model, but can't the sign be more specific?  Which end of the bear is it? :mutley
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That presumably depends on which platform you're standing on. i.e are you on the end of the bear where things go UP or the end where things come DOWN. :pedal



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Thanks for the encouragement, chaps. 
Herewith a little update, the canopy. I've messed up three before this. 1mm styrene extends the full width of the booking hall roof, and is topped with a double layer of adhesive label for the bars, three cast iron span brackets and pillars to go underneath, I'm experimenting with some plastic tubes that I had to buy for the pillars, so that they will telescope and deffo touch down on any uneven platform surface. I think I got the idea from Pete [Wogga].








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Herewith a little update, the canopy. I've messed up three before this. 1mm styrene extends the full width of the booking hall roof, and is topped with a double layer of adhesive label for the bars, three cast iron span brackets and pillars to go underneath, I'm experimenting with some plastic tubes that I had to buy for the pillars, so that they will telescope and deffo touch down on any uneven platform surface. I think I got the idea from Pete [Wogga].












































No bare cut edges touched up yet, etc


Superb work, I have been following this and all your builds on this and other (RM) forums, its your work that inspired me to try card, and I love it. But I had to highlight what you tried to hide above...

 

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That looks really nice Doug. I know how difficult it can be to work with 1mm styrene strips.

Is that clear styrene for the glass or something else? The stuff I have doesn't bond well with styrene. Is the clear glued in with the same solvent you use for the styrene strips?

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To quote Doug, "No bare cut edges touched up yet".  Don't you mean 'bear' edges? :lol:

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Wayne Williams wrote: That looks really nice Doug. I know how difficult it can be to work with 1mm styrene strips.

Is that clear styrene for the glass or something else? The stuff I have doesn't bond well with styrene. Is the clear glued in with the same solvent you use for the styrene strips?

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Hi Wayne,

Have you tried Testors Model Master 'Clear Parts Cement & Window Maker" ? This is used by model aircraft & car builders. It works fine and dries clear on glass, it's non crazing and ofcourse, can be used on clear styrene.

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Looks excellent Doug......but thats only to be expected

How did you handle the valances? I can only see them from an angle but from that restricted viewpoint they look very good.........I assume being the perfectionist that you are you hand cut them from card (I used plastic I am afraid.... forgot the font protocol for plastic on this thread)

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Just a quick question, you mentioned earlier that you will touch up the bare white edges using artists pastels, what is your actual technique for doing this?

I have previously done the bare edges before I stick down using felt tips or a 6b pencil, but to be honest for small stuff it can bleed into the print.

I am currently gluing on around 80-100 individual paper quoins on a small water tower I am currently building and need to get rid of the white edges afterwards.



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John Dew wrote: Looks excellent Doug......but thats only to be expected

How did you handle the valances? I can only see them from an angle but from that restricted viewpoint they look very good.........I assume being the perfectionist that you are you hand cut them from card (I used plastic I am afraid.... forgot the font protocol for plastic on this thread)

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I'm sorry I haven't replied earlier, I didn't realise you had posted....well, the valence. 

After lots of faffing about I tried cutting thin strips of whalebone from Shelagh's corsets, then gluing multiple nit-combs side by side, followed by a crocheted fringe, but in the end gave up and used plastic ........Sorry to abuse your faith in the Societo Packeto-Cornoflako, although I had to buy it, I did so long ago when I was young and foolish.
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I am currently gluing on around 80-100 individual paper quoins on a small water tower I am currently building and need to get rid of the white edges afterwards.

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Campaman wrote: Just a quick question, you mentioned earlier that you will touch up the bare white edges using artists pastels, what is your actual technique for doing this?

I have previously done the bare edges before I stick down using felt tips or a 6b pencil, but to be honest for small stuff it can bleed into the print.

I am currently gluing on around 80-100 individual paper quoins on a small water tower I am currently building and need to get rid of the white edges afterwards.


Hi, Andy,
I scrape a little dark grey artists pastel * onto a saucer, pick it up with a softish No.6 paintbrush and brush it lightly along the row of stones/bricks, tap off the excess then with a stiffer small brush rub it in to the white edges, brushing towards the stones you want to tint. 
I then usually use the same technique around my window frames if they are a light colour.

[ * not the 'oil' type, but the powdery sort that makes a mess everywhere, especially if you put your finger in your ear/nose/white fridge door handle...]

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I am currently gluing on around 80-100 individual paper quoins on a small water tower I am currently building and need to get rid of the white edges afterwards.

Andy, a thought in using a weathering powder  of a similar colour on a finger & rub it along the edge after gluing all the quoins !


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We crossed in hyper-space....it's the same thing, I suppose, but pastels are much less expensive if you stea, er, borrow them from your daughter.....
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OK thanks chaps... I will be having a go in an hour or so once I get home from work, the pastels I normally use are the powdery chalky ones that gets all over your fingers so I do have the right ones...

I might also try a mixture of both techniques on a test piece first and use a cotton bud.

I do have a set of the oily ones as well, they are useful for when you want an oily finish, and they were free, so I had to have them....



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Well, the soopa-doopa model shop that opened near[ish] me has gone under already so I'm at a stand until I can get some 2mm inside 3mm brass tube for the columns, but as I'm back in UK in April I'll wait until then to get it.
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Doug,  I recently took delivery of some of these lovely chimney pots. 

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Doug, those chimney pots are excellent.

Terry

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Thanks for the reminder, I have some chimney pots to build shortly.



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